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| Yep, the day it downloads on my PC | 33% - 8 | |||||
| Will probably load it on an old PC first and see | 8% - 2 | |||||
| Wait to see what happens with everybody else | 20% - 5 | |||||
| Not now, not ever | 37% - 9 | |||||
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#1 2015-06-27 11:47:10
Micro$oft is so desperate to get their user base on the same platform, they're actually giving Windows 10 away.
There are pros and cons, the biggest loss being No More Media Center.
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#2 2015-06-27 14:55:33
Half of our machines are already running it. It works. Whatever.
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#3 2015-06-27 15:41:30
I'm just gonna stick with iOS.......
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#4 2015-06-27 18:32:22
I haven't even downloaded the free iOS 10.whatever, why would I bother with Microsoft bloatware?
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#5 2015-06-27 18:32:28
Auto-edited on 2020-08-02 to update URLs
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#6 2015-06-27 18:45:51
Here's some good advice for you: Never buy anything from a company named after the founder's dick.
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#7 2015-06-27 21:20:12
I take whatever advice Microsoft offers and I do just the opposite. The strategy has worked beautifully so far.
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#8 2015-06-28 14:14:17
I am still installing XP on ECDIS Navigation computers. Works great. And had a ship come to a grinding halt last month when I ran out of parts to fix a floppy A drive that must be accesible to run the DOS program that writes to it. IMO and Coast Guard mandate requires the floppy. The ship had to stop and not move till a tech flew in with the part.
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#9 2015-06-28 14:52:11
Johnny_Rotten wrote:
I am still installing XP on ECDIS Navigation computers. Works great. And had a ship come to a grinding halt last month when I ran out of parts to fix a floppy A drive that must be accesible to run the DOS program that writes to it.
Ancient problem, ancient solution. Load a phantom RAM disk and assign it to A: You have a predictably high failure rate there. Why not invest in a butt load of dirt cheap spares for each boat? Power supplies, memory, drives, graphics cards, fans, fully loaded systems...
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#10 2015-06-28 15:27:12
Type approved equipment only. Not that it is any different. But has to come from an approved supply chain. Making it too expensive for many spares. Plus its usualy lasts 10 years or more.
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#11 2015-06-28 17:03:31
Johnny_Rotten wrote:
Type approved equipment only. Not that it is any different. But has to come from an approved supply chain.
Dumpster diving not allowed, eh? Sorry Capt'n, you're dead in the water.
Auto-edited on 2020-08-02 to update URLs
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#12 2015-06-28 19:29:19
Precisely - I thought we had all outgrown the "my OS is better than your OS" syndrome. Whichever OS currently pays the bills is the one I'm currently in favor of.
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#14 2015-06-28 22:51:57
The only thing about Win10 that I don't like is that you no longer have a say-so as to when to download the security updates. A lot of people are going to be pissed when they're doing something and then be told to stop and re-boot.
(If you remember last year, there was an update that kept showing up even after you installed and re-booted. For those that had their security settings on automatic update and download, that had to be a real pisser, their machines in a constant download and re-boot cycle until MSFT got their act together. I was lucky; I had previously chosen the "I'll decide later to download and install option".)
On December 24th, my hard drive on my Vista-era machine went down; a week later, my repair place offered me two choices: replace the drive for $200 or get a reconditioned Dell with Win7 for about $500 (Win8 was completely out of the question). I chose the former thinking that right now, I'm three operating systems behind; if I go with the Win7 Dell, I'd still be three os's behind when Win10 came out. If I had known that Win7 machines were eligible for Win10, I would've thought differently. On the other hand, I don't want to be busy spending the first few days of Win10 having to find (and install) new drivers.
As for iOS, I refuse to pay the Apple tax.
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#15 2015-06-29 11:25:23
AladdinSane wrote:
The only thing about Win10 that I don't like is that you no longer have a say-so as to when to download the security updates. A lot of people are going to be pissed when they're doing something and then be told to stop and re-boot.
You still have that option if you purchase the Professional edition. They want this on people's Servers too and auto-update don't fly on a 24x7 machine.
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#16 2015-06-29 13:27:01
Baywolfe wrote:
AladdinSane wrote:
The only thing about Win10 that I don't like is that you no longer have a say-so as to when to download the security updates. A lot of people are going to be pissed when they're doing something and then be told to stop and re-boot.
You still have that option if you purchase the Professional edition. They want this on people's Servers too and auto-update don't fly on a 24x7 machine.
Yup - small maintenance windows and high value earners usually means that I put a body in front of the machine for the update. For traveling users we just held spares and test machines but for trade floor & quant guys that's not really an option; anyone who's every tried to swap out a machine under a trade desk understands why. Although there would normally be a like machine in their office for backup.
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#17 2015-06-29 22:11:43
Last MS upgrade at work....20% made things harder to accomplish vs. 5% improvement, and 75% meh. But that 20%...so FUCKING annoying.
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#18 2015-06-30 00:06:59
I use Apple at home. At my part-time second job, I'm the one everyone comes to with their Microsoft tech issues. I intend to wait until at least the 2nd service pack before I upgrade the network.
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#19 2015-06-30 13:01:25
I have two programs that I keep a Windows VM around for. One is Quickbooks and that is only because I'm too cheap to pop for the OSX version, at least until the next time they force me to upgrade. The other is Mediamonkey, the only music/video management tool I think is worth a damn.
Windows 8.1 VM works fine for both. I'll test on 10 just to make sure they work. otherwise VMware Fusion + Unity = What Windows VM?
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#21 2015-07-04 20:19:33
If you'd rather shut down Wi-Fi Sense completely, you can do that, too. Windows 10 gives you the option during setup to share your Wi-Fi networks with others, or share your credentials with other networks. Just tell it no to both. You can also find these options in the Wi-Fi Settings screen.
It does make me concerned that Micro$ofts is just wiping their asses with WPA2-PSK. Is this, "Windows - OK we fucking give up trying to secure anything"?
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#23 2015-08-08 22:32:13
AladdinSane wrote:
Yeah, this bit was cute....
Privacy -If the enforcement policies were tough, however, they have nothing on the privacy violations Microsoft requests in the Windows 10 EULA. A notable section reads:
“We will access, disclose and preserve personal data, including your content (such as the content of your emails, other private communications or files in private folders), when we have a good faith belief that doing so is necessary.”
Needless to say “necessary” is a crucial qualifier and this should mean Microsoft won’t violate your privacy for no reason, but that all comes down to trust – and there’s not a great deal of that going around in a post-Snowden world.
Ahhh... no, thanks.
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#24 2015-08-08 23:09:58
The only thing that is different here is that they are openly stating that which was hidden for so long; anyone who ever thought electronic communications were private was quite foolish.
If you want privacy don't forget to eat the note after you read it.
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#25 2015-08-08 23:25:14
Emmeran wrote:
If you want privacy don't forget to eat the note after you read it.
What note?
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#27 2015-08-09 02:17:42
whosasailorthen wrote:
Emmeran wrote:
If you want privacy don't forget to eat the note after you read it.
What note?
I didn't say anything.
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#28 2015-08-09 08:56:47
Emmeran wrote:
whosasailorthen wrote:
Emmeran wrote:
If you want privacy don't forget to eat the note after you read it.
What note?
I didn't say anything.
What was that faint sound? Oh, probably the wind.
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#29 2015-08-09 11:41:53
George Orr wrote:
Emmeran wrote:
whosasailorthen wrote:
What note?I didn't say anything.
What was that faint sound? Oh, probably the wind.
Pay no attention to that sound from within your Windows, it is just the man from the government Windows welcomed in the front door. He is here to keep you safe.
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#30 2015-08-09 14:32:28
Johnny_Rotten wrote:
George Orr wrote:
Emmeran wrote:
I didn't say anything.What was that faint sound? Oh, probably the wind.
Pay no attention to that sound from within your Windows, it is just the man from the government Windows welcomed in the front door. He is here to keep you safe.
You can be sure that everything the government is doing is in good faith and necessary.
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