Poll

Would you support marital freedom between consenting adults?

Single partner heterosexual marriage

11% - 4
Single partner heterosexual or homosexual marriage

34% - 12
Multi-partner heterosexual marriage

14% - 5
Multi-partner heterosexual or homosexual marriage

40% - 14
Total: 35

#1 2009-05-07 23:49:18

Miss Cali is in the news again, followed closely by the splinter Mormon groups.

The liberals support homosexual marriage as progressive and a basic human right.

The conservatives across the globe support multi-partner heterosexual marriage as traditional and a basic human right.

Each works hard to repress the other.


Who is more repressive - vote now!!!!

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#3 2009-05-07 23:54:40

Nope, not trolling.  Those are honest civil rights questions, just looking for a take.

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#4 2009-05-08 00:50:57

It looks like you are being outvoted Em.  Most of us are OK with two or more consenting adults having orgasms as they see fit and having legal protections if they wish to enter into a contractual relationship.  And yes, while I think interracial relationships are disgusting, I don’t consider it my place to try to prevent people (who are not friends or relatives of mine) from engaging in this abomination.

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#5 2009-05-08 01:05:34

Get a lot of exercise jumping to conclusions?

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#6 2009-05-08 11:56:36

This is an awfully buxom focus group.

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#7 2009-05-08 12:05:49

The guy's obviously into some weird shit.

http://mediamatters.org/clips/200905070024

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#8 2009-05-08 13:27:00

icangetyouatoe wrote:

The guy's obviously into some weird shit.

http://mediamatters.org/clips/200905070024

Hi Toe!

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#9 2009-05-08 16:28:08

fnord wrote:

It looks like you are being outvoted Em.  Most of us are OK with two or more consenting adults having orgasms as they see fit and having legal protections if they wish to enter into a contractual relationship.  And yes, while I think interracial relationships are disgusting, I don’t consider it my place to try to prevent people (who are not friends or relatives of mine) from engaging in this abomination.

Well Fnord, looks like my horse won that race now doesn't it....

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#10 2009-05-08 16:41:24

Why do we need a government license and permission to team up anyway?  Apart from the legal ramifications, which can be accomplished via a domestic partnership, why on earth would gays want to turn over control of their sex and love lives to the government like the rest of us poor heteros do?

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#11 2009-05-08 16:44:53

phreddy wrote:

Why do we need a government license and permission to team up anyway?  Apart from the legal ramifications, which can be accomplished via a domestic partnership, why on earth would gays want to turn over control of their sex and love lives to the government like the rest of us poor heteros do?

We never married in the traditional sense, but did the registry office in Chelsea in London.  It really was a partnership from the beginning.  Best friend and lover.  What can beat that?  I don't need a God or a State to approve who I love and cherish.

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#12 2009-05-08 16:50:59

Dusty wrote:

I don't need a God or a State to approve who I love and cherish.

Well, not until you try to leave your widow your government pension.  Too much religion codified into our laws.

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#13 2009-05-08 16:54:39

phreddy wrote:

Dusty wrote:

I don't need a God or a State to approve who I love and cherish.

Well, not until you try to leave your widow your government pension.  Too much religion codified into our laws.

I gots no Gov't job.

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#14 2009-05-09 22:24:38

Emmeran wrote:

icangetyouatoe wrote:

The guy's obviously into some weird shit.

http://mediamatters.org/clips/200905070024

Hi Toe!

Hey Em! Where the HELL is my chili!

The Female Chili Palmer

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#15 2009-05-09 22:26:33

Dmtdust wrote:

phreddy wrote:

Dusty wrote:

I don't need a God or a State to approve who I love and cherish.

Well, not until you try to leave your widow your government pension.  Too much religion codified into our laws.

I gots no Gov't job.

Dusty, okay, the not officially married thing-what about God forbid, if you're in the hospital and she's not family and can't make decisions for you? Or your taxes or will? Are those issues to be circumvented, or is it not a problem? I'm not pro or con marriage, I'm just kind of curious. It was my impression that being actually married gave you some rights that people just living together couldn't have, which is why gay folk are so incensed. (among other reasons.)

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#16 2009-05-09 22:52:01

Pat Robertson wrote:

What about bestiality?

I wish that some-body would point out to Pat that bestiality is - In fact - still legal in numerous states a-cross the country so that we could all watch his head explode.

And, why the limited choices, Em?  I didn't participate in the poll due to your omission of an option for "Marriage is an out-dated, religious, institution which should be done a-way with completely."

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#17 2009-06-01 21:00:01

phreddy wrote:

Why do we need a government license and permission to team up anyway?  Apart from the legal ramifications, which can be accomplished via a domestic partnership, why on earth would gays want to turn over control of their sex and love lives to the government like the rest of us poor heteros do?

You betchum.  I was lucky to get out of my arrangement in one piece, and with no obligations or monetary arrangements.  How, you may ask?  I smoked her out.  I took no action to start divorce proceedings whatsoever.  She moved to the south and found a guy.  When she was ready to marry the poor sucker, she dropped me a post and told me to expect some papers that I need merely sign, setting moi free to become the Horse I am today.  Nothing to it.  Trick is, don't initiate any action yourself.  Wait 'm out, and they'll practically pay *you* to get out of it, once they find Mr Rignt.

PS to story - he turned out to be, well, let's just say, *not* Mr Right.  Hyuck!

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#18 2009-06-01 21:34:18

Horseonovich wrote:

phreddy wrote:

Why do we need a government license and permission to team up anyway?  Apart from the legal ramifications, which can be accomplished via a domestic partnership, why on earth would gays want to turn over control of their sex and love lives to the government like the rest of us poor heteros do?

You betchum.  I was lucky to get out of my arrangement in one piece, and with no obligations or monetary arrangements.  How, you may ask?  I smoked her out.  I took no action to start divorce proceedings whatsoever.  She moved to the south and found a guy.  When she was ready to marry the poor sucker, she dropped me a post and told me to expect some papers that I need merely sign, setting moi free to become the Horse I am today.  Nothing to it.  Trick is, don't initiate any action yourself.  Wait 'm out, and they'll practically pay *you* to get out of it, once they find Mr Rignt.

PS to story - he turned out to be, well, let's just say, *not* Mr Right.  Hyuck!

Damn, man, you still sound pretty bitter over the the whole thing.

The best way to get over one is to get under another one.

I think it is time to mosey out of the stall and dump some of that GHL into something with a beating heart, for a change.

You never know, it could do you a world of good (and the rest of us, too!).

What is the old saying? The best thing to do is to get right back up on that horse and ride her again!

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#19 2009-06-01 21:38:13

Emmeran wrote:

Miss Cali is in the news again, followed closely by the splinter Mormon groups.

The liberals support homosexual marriage as progressive and a basic human right.

The conservatives across the globe support multi-partner heterosexual marriage as traditional and a basic human right.

Each works hard to repress the other.


Who is more repressive - vote now!!!!

Well, even Dick supports gays being as miserable as the rest of us:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090601/ap_ … /us_cheney

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#20 2009-06-01 22:34:25

ptah13 wrote:

Horseonovich wrote:

phreddy wrote:

Why do we need a government license and permission to team up anyway?  Apart from the legal ramifications, which can be accomplished via a domestic partnership, why on earth would gays want to turn over control of their sex and love lives to the government like the rest of us poor heteros do?

You betchum.  I was lucky to get out of my arrangement in one piece, and with no obligations or monetary arrangements.  How, you may ask?  I smoked her out.  I took no action to start divorce proceedings whatsoever.  She moved to the south and found a guy.  When she was ready to marry the poor sucker, she dropped me a post and told me to expect some papers that I need merely sign, setting moi free to become the Horse I am today.  Nothing to it.  Trick is, don't initiate any action yourself.  Wait 'm out, and they'll practically pay *you* to get out of it, once they find Mr Rignt.

PS to story - he turned out to be, well, let's just say, *not* Mr Right.  Hyuck!

Damn, man, you still sound pretty bitter over the the whole thing.

The best way to get over one is to get under another one.

I think it is time to mosey out of the stall and dump some of that GHL into something with a beating heart, for a change.

You never know, it could do you a world of good (and the rest of us, too!).

What is the old saying? The best thing to do is to get right back up on that horse and ride her again!

Umm ... sorry if I wasn't clear.  I was most pleased to be out of the arrangement from day one.   I spent several wonderful single years and took no action.  When she found her beau, I simply signed off.  There's a whole lot more to the story.  For instance, said "Beau" actually wrote me asking me for a character reference on my ex (he was getting ready to pop the question, but wasn't quite sure he could *trust* her yet.  I mean fiddle-D-shit!  I was amused and dumbfounded by this, but gave her a glowing review.  Anyway, that's all water under the bridge.   I am now over five years with my wonderful lady, she is gold to me (no, not GHL) and  __YES I CAN ADMIT IT FOR THE FIRST TIME__ she is also the reason why my interest in Crueldom faded away.   She reformed this ol' Hossey, so that I could even tolerate festering little derivative cunts like you, Tar!  (By the way, I would vote for you to stay, too, just like I did for Zookie)

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#21 2009-06-01 22:41:45

Horseonovich wrote:

ptah13 wrote:

Horseonovich wrote:


You betchum.  I was lucky to get out of my arrangement in one piece, and with no obligations or monetary arrangements.  How, you may ask?  I smoked her out.  I took no action to start divorce proceedings whatsoever.  She moved to the south and found a guy.  When she was ready to marry the poor sucker, she dropped me a post and told me to expect some papers that I need merely sign, setting moi free to become the Horse I am today.  Nothing to it.  Trick is, don't initiate any action yourself.  Wait 'm out, and they'll practically pay *you* to get out of it, once they find Mr Rignt.

PS to story - he turned out to be, well, let's just say, *not* Mr Right.  Hyuck!

Damn, man, you still sound pretty bitter over the the whole thing.

The best way to get over one is to get under another one.

I think it is time to mosey out of the stall and dump some of that GHL into something with a beating heart, for a change.

You never know, it could do you a world of good (and the rest of us, too!).

What is the old saying? The best thing to do is to get right back up on that horse and ride her again!

Umm ... sorry if I wasn't clear.  I was most pleased to be out of the arrangement from day one.   I spent several wonderful single years and took no action.  When she found her beau, I simply signed off.  There's a whole lot more to the story.  For instance, said "Beau" actually wrote me asking me for a character reference on my ex (he was getting ready to pop the question, but wasn't quite sure he could *trust* her yet.  I mean fiddle-D-shit!  I was amused and dumbfounded by this, but gave her a glowing review.  Anyway, that's all water under the bridge.   I am now over five years with my wonderful lady, she is gold to me (no, not GHL) and  __YES I CAN ADMIT IT FOR THE FIRST TIME__ she is also the reason why my interest in Crueldom faded away.   She reformed this ol' Hossey, so that I could even tolerate festering little derivative cunts like you, Tar!  (By the way, I would vote for you to stay, too, just like I did for Zookie)

I was only kidding.

Remember, I'm the one who spoke up and had your back when you got banned.

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#22 2009-06-01 23:45:50

ptah13 wrote:

Damn, man, you still sound pretty bitter over the the whole thing.

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#23 2009-06-02 00:10:13

When Massachusetts was in the process of legalizing same-sex marriage, I was pondering the controversy, and thinking on the concept of "civil union" and that damn little voice in my head said, "Separate but Equal". Since that moment, I've regarded opposition to same-sex marriage as no less than outright bigotry. There's no need to force religious groups to perform marriage ceremonies for people they don't want to, but there must be a legal state attainable by any couple that confers the same rights and responsibilities as a church wedding.



That said - substitute "spouse" for "wife" and read away:

My wife sat down on the couch next to me as I was flipping channels.

She asked, 'What's on TV?'
I said, 'Dust.'

And then the fight started...

******************************************

My wife and I are watching "Who Wants To Be A Millionaire" while we were in bed.

I turned to her and said, "Do you want to have sex?"
"No," she answered.
I then said, "Is that your final answer?"
She didn't even look at me this time, simply saying, "Yes."
So I said, "Then I'd like to phone a friend."

And then the fight started....

******************************************

Saturday morning I got up early, quietly dressed, made my lunch, grabbed the dog, and slipped quietly into the garage. I hooked up the boat up to the truck, and proceeded to back out into a torrential downpour. The wind was blowing 50 mph, so I pulled back into the garage, turned on the radio, and discovered that the weather would be bad all day.

I went back into the house, quietly undressed, and slipped back in to bed. I cuddled up to my wife's back, now with a different anticipation, and whispered, "The weather out there is terrible."

My loving wife of 10 years replied, "Can you believe my stupid husband is out fishing in that?"

And that's how the fight started....

******************************************

My wife was hinting about what she wanted for our upcoming anniversary.

She said, 'I want something shiny that goes from 0 to 150 in about 3 seconds.'

I bought her a scale.

And then the fight started...

******************************************

When I got home last night, my wife demanded that I take her someplace expensive... so, I took her to a gas station.

And then the fight started...

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After retiring, I went to the Social Security office to apply for Social Security. The woman behind the counter asked me for my driver's license to verify my age. I looked in my pockets and realized I had left my wallet at home. I told the woman that I was very sorry, but I would have to go home and come back later.

The woman said, 'Unbutton your shirt'. So I opened my shirt revealing my curly silver hair. She said, 'That silver hair on your chest is proof enough for me' and she processed my Social Security application.

When I got home, I excitedly told my wife about my experience at the Social Security office.

She said, 'You should have dropped your pants. You might have gotten disability, too.'

And then the fight started...

******************************************

My wife and I were sitting at a table at my high school reunion, and I kept staring at a drunken lady swigging her drink as she sat alone at a nearby table.

My wife asked, 'Do you know her?'

'Yes,' I sighed, 'She's my old girlfriend. I understand she took to drinking right after we split up those many years ago, and I hear she hasn't been sober since.'

'My God!' says my wife, 'who would think a person could go on celebrating that long?'

And then the fight started...

******************************************

I took my wife to a restaurant. The waiter, for some reason, took my order first.

"I'll have the strip steak, medium rare, please."
He said, "Aren't you worried about the mad cow?"
"Nah, she can order for herself."

And then the fight started...

******************************************

A woman is standing nude, looking in the bedroom mirror.
She is not happy with what she sees and says to her husband, 'I feel horrible; I look old, fat and ugly. I really need you to pay me a compliment.'

The husband replies, 'Your eyesight's damn near perfect.'

And then the fight started.....

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#24 2009-06-02 01:55:03

sigmoid freud wrote:

My wife and I are watching "Who Wants To Be A Millionaire" while we were in bed.

I turned to her and said, "Do you want to have sex?"
"No," she answered.

In all fairness to your wife, Regis is a-kin to a dose of "Salt-Peter."  I don't think that I could engage in an act of intimacy with his voice in the back-ground either.

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#25 2009-06-02 02:00:50

Decadence wrote:

sigmoid freud wrote:

My wife and I are watching "Who Wants To Be A Millionaire" while we were in bed.

I turned to her and said, "Do you want to have sex?"
"No," she answered.

In all fairness to your wife, Regis is a-kin to a dose of "Salt-Peter."  I don't think that I could engage in an act of intimacy with his voice in the back-ground either.

I blame people putting televisions in the God Damned bedroom for about half of all divorces today.

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#26 2009-06-02 09:18:39

jesusluvspegging wrote:

Decadence wrote:

sigmoid freud wrote:

My wife and I are watching "Who Wants To Be A Millionaire" while we were in bed.

I turned to her and said, "Do you want to have sex?"
"No," she answered.

In all fairness to your wife, Regis is a-kin to a dose of "Salt-Peter."  I don't think that I could engage in an act of intimacy with his voice in the back-ground either.

I blame people putting televisions in the God Damned bedroom for about half of all divorces today.

And the declining birth rate.

I won't have a TV or a phone in my bedroom. When was the last time you got a good call while in bed? When the wife and I want to watch something "special" in bed together, it comes from the laptop.

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#27 2009-06-02 12:47:40

ptah13 wrote:

I was only kidding.

Remember, I'm the one who spoke up and had your back when you got banned.

I know.  You are my fucking hero.  I love you, man.  Sniff.



YeeHee!

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#28 2009-06-02 13:55:34

Pony-Boy wrote:

You are my fucking hero.  I love you, man.  Sniff.

< TrentReznor > This is how it begins . . . < /TrentReznor >

You've seen this movie be-fore, Folks.  Just move a-long.  It's all "down-hill" from here.

Post-Script:  Okay, that's odd.  My HTML tags show "as-is" un-till I edit my post (Absent any actual changes).  Curiouser and curiouser . . .

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#29 2009-06-03 16:23:31

Horseonovich wrote:

ptah13 wrote:

I was only kidding.

Remember, I'm the one who spoke up and had your back when you got banned.

I know.  You are my fucking hero.  I love you, man.  Sniff.


YeeHee!

Wait a minute, I spoke up also.  It appears the conservatives are the champions of free speech on this board, as in the real world.

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#30 2009-06-03 16:40:38

phreddy wrote:

Wait a minute, I spoke up also.  It appears the conservatives are the champions of free speech on this board, as in the real world.

So, now every-body who originally said "Just ignore his ass" counts as a "Champion Of 'Free-Speech?"  Be-Cause, if you want to "back-track," quite a few of us spoke in Pony-Boy's Psuedo-Defense.  Ultimately though, it was a pot-smoking, pseudo-liberal from Nevada that emancipated the old grey Nag.

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#31 2009-06-03 17:02:13

phreddy wrote:

Horseonovich wrote:

ptah13 wrote:

I was only kidding.

Remember, I'm the one who spoke up and had your back when you got banned.

I know.  You are my fucking hero.  I love you, man.  Sniff.


YeeHee!

Wait a minute, I spoke up also.  It appears the conservatives are the champions of free speech on this board, as in the real world.

I've always supported equine rights.  That makes one conservative and two Republicans.  And Dec.

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#32 2009-06-03 17:27:17

The Usual BS, the Usual Suspects.

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#33 2009-06-03 17:39:18

Dmtdust wrote:

The Usual BS, the Usual Suspects.

Don't worry Dusty, when they come for you I'll speak up.  Now if Choad threw out Tojo and Orangepus , it would test my support of the first amendment.

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#34 2009-06-03 17:41:03

Ops wrote:

And Dec.

Socially liberal, fiscally, conservative, Marxist* (If you must insist on a "label").

Yes, there is such a thing, you Reagan-Rim-Jobbing Fuck-Heads.

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#35 2009-06-03 17:51:24

Decadence wrote:

Ops wrote:

And Dec.

Socially liberal, fiscally, conservative, Marxist* (If you must insist on a "label").

Yes, there is such a thing, you Reagan-Rim-Jobbing Fuck-Heads.

So, how does a fiscal conservative convince himself to pay for liberal social programs?  I'm not talking about food for the poor or state sponsored job services.  I'm referring to bailing out unions and socialized industry.  Sounds like internal conflict.

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#36 2009-06-03 18:05:45

phreddy wrote:

Dmtdust wrote:

The Usual BS, the Usual Suspects.

Don't worry Dusty, when they come for you I'll speak up.  Now if Choad threw out Tojo and Orangepus , it would test my support of the first amendment.

When Obama camps open, I'll save you as well.  Always would, Always will.

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#37 2009-06-03 18:07:26

I'm only pro-banning in cases of egregious spamming, like with livia.

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#38 2009-06-03 18:10:25

phreddy wrote:

Sounds like internal conflict.

Sounds like you know fuck-all about the writings of Marx and Engels.

Seriously, Dude, I've tried so hard for so many years to explain my belief system.  If you and your anal-retentive buddies can't differentiate betwixt Socialism and Marxism by this point, I'm thinking that the problem likely doesn't lie in my presentation of the information.

phreddy wrote:

So, how does a fiscal conservative convince himself to pay for liberal social programs?  I'm not talking about food for the poor or state sponsored job services.  I'm referring to bailing out unions and socialized industry.

Would you care to point out at exactly what moment in history that I supported as much for the United States?  Be-Cause, my memory is not at all what it should be.  And, if I did any-thing stupid, I'd prefer that my e-friends let me know be-fore I "make a major Horseonovich of my-self.*"

* I'm hoping that it will rather "catch on."

And, in regards to your so-called "Socialized Industry," you're simply still in shock by the fact that Shrub campaigned to socialize your banks to begin with.  That doesn't really work so well in a Capitalist society.  It would be a bit different had they been "socialized" from the on-set.

And, if I sounded "A bit harsh" there, Phred, I'd offer a "half-hearted" apology; But, you really do seem to "set your-self up" on these.

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#39 2009-06-03 19:33:49

Decadence wrote:

If you and your anal-retentive buddies can't differentiate betwixt Socialism and Marxism by this point, I'm thinking that the problem likely doesn't lie in my presentation of the information.

Apparently I am not the one who is having trouble differentiating.  When I referred to you as a social liberal, I was only using your own description of yourself: "Socially liberal, fiscally, conservative, Marxist* (If you must insist on a "label")."  And don't worry about the "half-hearted" apology.  Setting yourself up by accusing me of setting myself up is payment enough.

PS:  I think of you as one of the rational ones, so don't take all this too seriously.

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#40 2009-06-03 19:46:27

phreddy wrote:

I think of you as one of the rational ones, so don't take all this too seriously.

Not a problem, Dude.  You know that I'd have a beer with you any day (Or, if we some-how ended up in San Fransisco, may-haps a bit of cock - It's not my particular "scene;" But, "When in Rome" {Which seems all too appropriate a "catch-phrase" for this all-ready un-comfortable "segue"})

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#41 2009-06-03 20:18:19

There's more man-love going on here than in most federal prisons!

I think me an my little pony started a love-in on High Street.

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#42 2009-06-03 20:51:20

I'm surprised. A search for this phrase turned up rather wholesome images, by and large.

https://cruelery.com/uploads/thumbs/430_pony235.jpg

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#43 2009-06-04 00:27:38

Decadence wrote:

phreddy wrote:

I think of you as one of the rational ones, so don't take all this too seriously.

Not a problem, Dude.  You know that I'd have a beer with you any day (Or, if we some-how ended up in San Fransisco, may-haps a bit of cock - It's not my particular "scene;" But, "When in Rome" {Which seems all too appropriate a "catch-phrase" for this all-ready un-comfortable "segue"})

Maybe I spoke too soon when I used the word "rational".

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#44 2009-06-04 00:38:29

Get a fucking room the two of you... and post the video for Taint.

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#45 2009-06-04 00:47:08

Dmtdust wrote:

Get a fucking room the two of you... and post the video for Taint.

No shit. Miss California does NOT approve.

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#46 2009-06-04 00:52:30

Sofie wrote:

No shit. Miss California does NOT approve.

To be expected, I suppose.  How are we "playing on Perez?"  And, has Regis called yet (Now, that is some "gay fucking television")?

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#47 2009-06-04 01:27:43

Dmtdust wrote:

Get a fucking room the two of you... and post the video for Taint.

Um, really. Don't go to any trouble on my account.

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#48 2009-06-09 00:02:01

As a certain jew said at the end of the viddy:

   "Umm, I just wanna say I need pussy!

...or something like that.

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#49 2009-06-13 11:23:40

Hopefully the last gasp of the Prejean story:  Fun with e-mail

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#50 2009-06-13 11:27:53

I just can't figure out why it took them so long to fire her.

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