Anyone have any insight on this "Top two" system in Cali?

I know nothing about them, so why do I get the feeling that "The Peace and Freedom Party" is about little peace and less freedom?

Roseanne Barr and Cindy Sheehan.  Now there's a winning ticket.

Meanwhile, Roseanne's Secretary of State, Sean Penn is down in Venezuela campaigning for Hugo Chavez.

ah297900 wrote:

As a concerned voter, I understand the value of journalism that's informative and objective. That's why I get all my news at www.allliberalsarewrongallthetime.com.

Aaawwww, I wanted that to be a real domain.....

As Sean Penn's (& Hugo Chavez's) relevance is only minutely greater than Roseanne's, I don't think it really matters does it?  Hugo is one of those people who just begs to be ignored.  If you really want to stick it to him, don't buy Citgo gas or something equally pointless.

phreddy wrote:

ah297900 wrote:

As a concerned voter, I understand the value of journalism that's informative and objective. That's why I get all my news at www.allliberalsarewrongallthetime.com.

I'm so sorry you limit your news gathering to the Obama news services where they don't report these things.  Apparently, for you, the truth that Sean Penn is campaigning for one of our enemies is somehow less true if it's not reported by CNN.

Funny but they see no bias, or anything wrong for that matter, with NBC (who edited the Zimmerman 911 call), CBS for manufacturing those fake Texas Reserve fitreps on W, ABC for hiring former clinton aids (Stephanopoulos in particular) or MSNBC who has a shill who was former head of the DNC.

Bigcat wrote:

If you ignore the American propaganda,you would that see  Hugo Chavez is a humanitarian.  I would campain for him also.

I visited Venezuela a couple years ago and I assure you that country will be fucked up for the next thirty years... or longer... because of Chavez. Worst fucking place anywhere. Everyone lives in fear of being robbed. And they're pissed off all the time because the power goes out daily, along with the water, across the entire fucking country. Every time you take a shit there's a 1 in 3 chance you cannot wash your hands. Lots of people walking around sick & coughing. Not a happy place.

If you operate a business, you're a target for robbery by the poor or the government. The police are extremely corrupt and feared as much as the other hoodlums.

Violence is epidemic. Over 100 people were killed in Caracas the week I was there, the violence spiked a bit for the holidays... Feliz fucking navidad... That's not including those killed in prison or by the police. That's 100 people in one week in a city of 4 million, making it the non-warzone murder capital of the world... with a greater murder rate than Baghdad!

Hugo did introduce universal healthcare. And he is very focused on making education available to everyone. Not that it matters, as there are no jobs that pay enough for the average citizen to afford living there. A can of beer costs $6. The cheapest meal starts at $25. The majority of people there cannot afford to eat out with their family. They're desperate for dollars because Hugo keeps devaluing the Bolivar, everyone's savings were wiped out years ago. I exchanged currency on the black market at 3X the usual rate, which made me a relatively affluent fucker there.

Gas is the only thing that's affordable at $0.10 a gallon - cheaper than water - and the only reason Hugo remains in power. Everyone drives their beater car because that's the only diversion they can afford. Consequently you experience traffic jams and the filth of pollution everywhere you go.

Everything Chavez does is a play to keep him in power. Perhaps you're under the illusion that a free press operates there. Reporters get dragged out of their office and beaten in the streets if they write anything critical of the regime.

Make no mistake... this is the most evil flavor of socialism, not that good stuff they have in Scandinavia. You and your pal Sean Penn are fucking dupes for thinking otherwise. I don't often think about Sean Penn, but when I do I think there goes a guy who could really stand a boot up his ass.

Last edited by lechero (2012-08-09 17:44:13)

lechero wrote:

Bigcat wrote:

If you ignore the American propaganda,you would that see  Hugo Chavez is a humanitarian.  I would campain for him also.

I visited Venezuela a couple years ago and I assure you that country will be fucked up for the next thirty years... or longer... because of Chavez. Worst fucking place anywhere. Everyone lives in fear of being robbed. And they're pissed off all the time because the power goes out daily, along with the water, across the entire fucking country. Every time you take a shit there's a 1 in 3 chance you cannot wash your hands. Lots of people walking around sick & coughing. Not a happy place.

If you operate a business, you're a target for robbery by the poor or the government. The police are extremely corrupt and feared as much as the other hoodlums.

Violence is epidemic. Over 100 people were killed in Caracas the week I was there, the violence spiked a bit for the holidays... Feliz fucking navidad... That's not including those killed in prison or by the police. That's 100 people in one week in a city of 4 million, making it the non-warzone murder capital of the world... with a greater murder rate than Baghdad!

Hugo did introduce universal healthcare. And he is very focused on making education available to everyone. Not that it matters, as there are no jobs that pay enough for the average citizen to afford living there. A can of beer costs $6. The cheapest meal starts at $25. The majority of people there cannot afford to eat out with their family. They're desperate for dollars because Hugo keeps devaluing the Bolivar, everyone's savings were wiped out years ago. I exchanged currency on the black market at 3X the usual rate, which made me a relatively affluent fucker there.

Gas is the only thing that's affordable at $0.10 a gallon - cheaper than water - and the only reason Hugo remains in power. Everyone drives their beater car because that's the only diversion they can afford. Consequently you experience traffic jams and the filth of pollution everywhere you go.

Everything Chavez does is a play to keep him in power. Perhaps you're under the illusion that a free press operates there. Reporters get dragged out of their office and beaten in the streets if they write anything critical of the regime.

Make no mistake... this is the most evil flavor of socialism, not that good stuff they have in Scandinavia. You and your pal Sean Penn are fucking dupes for thinking otherwise. I don't often think about Sean Penn, but when I do I think there goes a guy who could really stand a boot up his ass.

Sounds like Detroit, New York, L.A., Philly etc.

Bigcat wrote:

Sounds like Detroit, New York, L.A., Philly etc.

No surprise, but those are all bastions of democrats who likely adore Chavez. 

Bigcat wrote:

Who the fuck are you?

Where did I say W. had a magic gas button?  Go play on My Space and let the adults talk, OK Sweety?

Now if you were able practice a modicum of critical thinking, you'd be able to go back and read what you said about prices spiking under W's second term.  You attempted to correlate them.  That's just as stupid as hearing people now blame Obama for rising prices.

Bigcat wrote:

I would like to have a little pee fight with you but I don't have time at the present. Howsabout you call me stupid once more.. and tell me where you live... and I'll just beat your fucking ass in?

Aaand.. I never said the president had a magic button for anything. I wish I had one so fuckheads could not join High Street.

U mad?  I haven't called you stupid yet.  I live in Seattle.  I'm a veteran with VBSS experience, 5'11", 175 lbs I workout 5-6 days a week, practice Krav Maga and shoot expert in both 9MM and M16.  Come at me bro. 

Again, your behavior of threats of violence and avoidance of reality is typical for looney liberals when faced with reality.

I know you're trolling because only an idiot would believe Chavez to be a good person.  Or believes the president has anything to do with gas prices. 

I remember the days when cruel was actually universally offensive, not just a mirror image of reddit's politics.

Bigcat wrote:

Seattle, that narrows it down "bro".

I'm willing to bet you live in your mom's basement and suck your stepfather's willie when moms goes to work at K-Mart.

Since you practice all of those really impressive things and shoot really impressive guns I guess you win.

Congrats on your ideal hight to weight ratio, I am truly impressed. I'll bet the bears just love you.

I wish I could be like you, I only practice tearing heads off of cock gobbling douche nozzle assholes and shoving thier decapsies up thier fucking asses. Probably run into each other soon.

You are trolling. I never once said the president controls gas prices.

You are certainly easy to control "bro". Go flex in the mirror and beat off on your stepfathers toupee.

tl;dr

Thanks for proving to everyone that rational thinking still escapes you.

http://imgur.com/ZMtvt

Chavez's thugs stealing a farmer's land.  Good thing those Kulaks didn't have cameras a hundred years ago.  I guess there's a vast conspiracy by our liberal mainstream media to paint Chavez as a bad guy.  Take off your tinfoil asshat moron.

Last edited by Egoist (2012-08-09 22:11:48)

Bigcat wrote:

Wow! You really have your panties in a bunch. Typing so furiously that you are omitting words and not punctuating properly.

Typical 18 year old cock chugger.

Can this loser be banned?

Ha, I'm actually smiling at all of this.  And again, typical leftist wanting to silence dissent. 

Take it into perspective, that you're also someone who believes Chavez is a "humanitarian," there's a vast conspiracy by American media to paint him as a villain, and the president is linked to gas prices.

If you can't win an argument, attack their grammar on a message board.

lechero wrote:

I visited Venezuela a couple years ago and I assure you that country will be fucked up for the next thirty years... or longer... because of Chavez. Worst fucking place anywhere. Everyone lives in fear of being robbed. And they're pissed off all the time because the power goes out daily, along with the water, across the entire fucking country. Every time you take a shit there's a 1 in 3 chance you cannot wash your hands. Lots of people walking around sick & coughing. Not a happy place.

If you operate a business, you're a target for robbery by the poor or the government. The police are extremely corrupt and feared as much as the other hoodlums.

Violence is epidemic. Over 100 people were killed in Caracas the week I was there, the violence spiked a bit for the holidays... Feliz fucking navidad... That's not including those killed in prison or by the police. That's 100 people in one week in a city of 4 million, making it the non-warzone murder capital of the world... with a greater murder rate than Baghdad!

Hugo did introduce universal healthcare. And he is very focused on making education available to everyone. Not that it matters, as there are no jobs that pay enough for the average citizen to afford living there. A can of beer costs $6. The cheapest meal starts at $25. The majority of people there cannot afford to eat out with their family. They're desperate for dollars because Hugo keeps devaluing the Bolivar, everyone's savings were wiped out years ago. I exchanged currency on the black market at 3X the usual rate, which made me a relatively affluent fucker there.

Gas is the only thing that's affordable at $0.10 a gallon - cheaper than water - and the only reason Hugo remains in power. Everyone drives their beater car because that's the only diversion they can afford. Consequently you experience traffic jams and the filth of pollution everywhere you go.

Everything Chavez does is a play to keep him in power. Perhaps you're under the illusion that a free press operates there. Reporters get dragged out of their office and beaten in the streets if they write anything critical of the regime.

Make no mistake... this is the most evil flavor of socialism, not that good stuff they have in Scandinavia. You and your pal Sean Penn are fucking dupes for thinking otherwise. I don't often think about Sean Penn, but when I do I think there goes a guy who could really stand a boot up his ass.

Everything I am aware of indicates this is truth.  Worked with a couple Venezuelan exiles on a project for a couple months.  They were truly heartbroken to not be there, but they couldn't raise their families there in good conscience.  Based on their description of Chavez, the main difference between him and Noriega is the cocaine habit.

Bigcat wrote:

Go flex in the mirror and beat off on your stepfathers toupee.

NICE! I'm using that one soon.

Edit: Chavez is a cunt. He has done some things to alleviate the burdens of poor folks, but he's still a cunt.

Last edited by Tall Paul (2012-08-09 23:17:14)

Egoist wrote:

I'm atheist, think Hitchens was a great writer, advocate gay marriage, legalization of all drugs and admire the Nordic model -- not that it's tenable here in the States.  How exactly am I right-wing?

We can only judge you by the smell of your words, and so far, you smell like a right-wing douche.

At least you are finally getting the attention you crave, "bro".

I have to disagree a tad with Wilber; You smell like a right wingnut who hasn't douched at all.

Why don't you go hunt some deer meat and leave the internet alone, ok sweetie?

Egoist, I can tell you from experience that arguing with CuchacaGrande is like having an "I know you are, but what am I?" argument with a 3 year old. It's entertaining for a while, but it looses it's playful note after the 10th or 12th iteration and after a while you don't want to "win" the argument any more, you just want to go read a book or attend a science fair or something to get your faith in humanity back.

Bigcat wrote:

Don't you think you can find people who will say the same thing about 'Murhika? Spend a week in Detroit, seriously.

Not really.  Kandahar West is a poor example.  Post me multiple stories where residents of Detroit got bagged & stuffed in a van never to be seen again, or where government loyalists randomly marched on opposition neighborhoods (read everywhere) with bats and pipes committing random assaults.  Then maybe we can talk.  Sure there is plenty to gripe about here, but you seriously know fuck-all about oppression.

You should get out more....

Egoist wrote:

admire the Nordic model

I for one, admire the occasional Nordic model.

choad wrote:

MSG Tripps wrote:

Egoist wrote:

admire the Nordic model

I for one, admire the occasional Nordic model.

Oh, lord, say it ain't so, Dhal! Has the planet has finally wobbled out of orbit and Stockholm Syndrome claimed another victim?

How so?
The Nordic countries make up a region in Northern Europe and the North Atlantic which consists of Denmark, Finland, Iceland, Norway and Sweden and their associated territories, the Faroe Islands, Greenland and Åland.
Sweden, the Nordic Florida.

Last edited by MSG Tripps (2012-08-10 12:33:09)

XregnaR wrote:

Or this

As much as I think you are a douche, that is exactly what I had in mind.

XregnaR wrote:

Well, you have me beat there.  You have an opinion of me.

Yeah, you haven't spouted any opinions about me in this thread at all because you are so cool that you are beyond it, right?

All that needs to be done is to scroll up.

I have a 2nd opinion of you also:  You are a stupid ass.