#2 2015-11-05 10:32:38

Whoa.
This is gonna be one of those slow-burn situations--I hope.  I hope that legal marijuana will mean erosion of the drug cartels' power.  But that process, if it does happen, will be slow and fraught with peril at every step.
Side note:  How long do you think it will take for Americans to realize that their country and its priorities no longer dominate the world and never will again?

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#3 2015-11-05 10:45:39

Unfortunately, I don't see this having ANY impact on the cartels.  Only when the US makes real changes across the board will their profits be eroded.

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#4 2015-11-05 11:45:10

George Orr wrote:

Whoa.
This is gonna be one of those slow-burn situations--I hope.  I hope that legal marijuana will mean erosion of the drug cartels' power.  But that process, if it does happen, will be slow and fraught with peril at every step.
Side note:  How long do you think it will take for Americans to realize that their country and its priorities no longer dominate the world and never will again?

I agree with about half of what Aaron Sorkin writes but this was pretty dead-on.

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#5 2015-11-05 12:16:37

George Orr wrote:

Side note:  How long do you think it will take for Americans to realize that their country and its priorities no longer dominate the world and never will again?

Lessee - as soon as McDonalds, Bud, Nike, KFC, Ford, Intel, Microsoft, Apple, NFL, Hollywood and etc. aren't the prominent everything?  Or how about as soon as we stop being the immigration destination of choice for the world?

We are the worlds fusion point, it all comes together here.

Unfortunately for us...

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#6 2015-11-05 12:36:49

Emmeran wrote:

George Orr wrote:

Side note:  How long do you think it will take for Americans to realize that their country and its priorities no longer dominate the world and never will again?

Lessee - as soon as McDonalds, Bud, Nike, KFC, Ford, Intel, Microsoft, Apple, NFL, Hollywood and etc. aren't the prominent everything?  Or how about as soon as we stop being the immigration destination of choice for the world?

We are the worlds fusion point, it all comes together here.

Unfortunately for us...

In other words, we're now identified, not by the hard-working decent people, but by our corporations and billionaires?  Sad if true.

As far as immigration destination of choice, I have Europe on the phone and they're asking if you've read any world news in the past year or two.

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#7 2015-11-05 12:45:23

Emmeran wrote:

George Orr wrote:

Side note:  How long do you think it will take for Americans to realize that their country and its priorities no longer dominate the world and never will again?

Lessee - as soon as McDonalds, Bud, Nike, KFC, Ford, Intel, Microsoft, Apple, NFL, Hollywood and etc. aren't the prominent everything?  Or how about as soon as we stop being the immigration destination of choice for the world?

We are the worlds fusion point, it all comes together here.

Unfortunately for us...

In my eyes, none of those corporations behave in away that identifies them as American anymore.  In fact, they tend to behave as if they are autonomous nation-states these days.  Unfortunately, people in other countries tend to assign stereotypes to Americans based on those corporations and the dreck we export via television and the silver screen.

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#8 2015-11-05 12:55:53

Baywolfe wrote:

As far as immigration destination of choice, I have Europe on the phone and they're asking if you've read any world news in the past year or two.

Despite all the fleeing-to-Europe style emigration being splattered all over the news these days, the USA is still the destination of choice for anyone who wants more than just escaping a war-zone and get on the dole.

14.3% of the US population is made up of 1st generation immigrants, compared to 9.8% of the total population in all of Europe.

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#9 2015-11-05 14:20:54

I'm gonna stick with "Fusion Point", everything else is pretty much a Carson/Trump style distraction.  Interestingly enough, the USA is still the #1 immigration destination of anyone with means.  I'll go chase the facts should you like but the "Universal Dream" comes together here:  much to the natives dismay.

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#10 2015-11-05 14:22:01

XregnaR wrote:

In my eyes, none of those corporations behave in away that identifies them as American anymore.  In fact, they tend to behave as if they are autonomous nation-states these days.  Unfortunately, people in other countries tend to assign stereotypes to Americans based on those corporations and the dreck we export via television and the silver screen.

This.

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#11 2015-11-05 19:25:15

Emmeran wrote:

XregnaR wrote:

In my eyes, none of those corporations behave in away that identifies them as American anymore.  In fact, they tend to behave as if they are autonomous nation-states these days.  Unfortunately, people in other countries tend to assign stereotypes to Americans based on those corporations and the dreck we export via television and the silver screen.

This.

Yeah.
The world will convert to corporate fiefdoms so quietly and so gradually that we probably won't notice until it's completed.

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