Nah man, I'm with Choad.  He may have been here forever and know the place better than I ever will but I've been around dude.  Hell I've been everywhere and nothing ever compares to old school corruption.

New England is by far the most corrupt place CONUS.


  (I know the Snow version is probably more original but the at voice...)

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GooberMcNutly wrote:

George Orr wrote:

Knowing that Obama is planning to work on this issue is a ray of bright sunshine in my dark fucking days.

You are expecting a party apparatchik to "work" on the problem and come up with a more equitable solution?

Guilty white Progs, SJWs, and modern day bolsheviks needn't fear. 
A ménage à trots of race-baiting seditious apparatchiks is fixin' to occupy their new headquarters.
All this "injustice" will be sorted out in no time at all.

choad wrote:

https://cruelery.com/sidepic/doublefacepalm.jpg

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meh...StarTrek TNG sucked ballz

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JetRx wrote:

choad wrote:

https://cruelery.com/sidepic/doublefacepalm.jpg

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meh...StarTrek TNG sucked ballz

Aww, g'wan, admit it, you miss Wesley Crusher and his mommie. Well, g'news, space fans, "The Expanse" replicates the same lame drama. Space opry was never my long suit.

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choad wrote:

Fucking hysterical, choad.

That second shot (above) belongs on Bigcat's Ass thread.

choad wrote:

https://cruelery.com/sidepic/pinkhouse.jpg

Let the bankruptcies begin...

My only comment is that there was a Trump Tower in New Rochelle, NY where I rented this last summer.  I couldn't for the life of me find any reasonable excuse as to why it was there and aside from a commuter line station why it even existed.  Even without the Trump name it seems to simply be a weeping ulcer representing the sins of over capitalization.

Not to mention the surround "Consumer Experience" is limping along on one partially amputated and one other horribly diseased limb.  Tax development contracts are keeping it alive but on the whole the community would prefer to rip the entire development down and salt the fucking earth.

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choad wrote:

https://i.redditmedia.com/_1t-QQARB-8L8 … 68185a34d1

Speaking of rich fat bastards and HWP women who chauffeur them...

https://youtu.be/1M4ADcMn3dA

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"This is 2017 in a nutshell: You start with what you think is obviously a joke, and then a few days later it is being sent out from the White House."

It sucks when the world starts looking at you.

Invertebrates against Trump:

Chesapeake Bay's Booming Oyster Industry Is Alarmed By Trump's EPA Budget Cuts

A federally funded cleanup effort is finally restoring the bay's ecology, bringing back oyster jobs.

...Things started changing in the last several years as the effects of an Environmental Protection Agency cleanup that began in 1983 under President Ronald Reagan took effect. (President Barack Obama imposed even stricter targets in 2009). Levels of phosphorus and nitrogen, a third of which settled on the water from being wheezed by power plants into the air, fell. The water cleared. Grasses grew back in dense thickets, tightening the river bed with roots. 

By 2004, Coxton quit his day job and started cultivating oysters full time. At first, restaurants in the area, knowing how dirty the water had been, wouldn’t buy his product, even though it was safe to eat. He shipped them to upscale eateries in New York. But as water quality improved over the past decade, local demand came roaring back. Coxton opened his fifth restaurant Thursday evening and plans to cut the ribbon on a sixth in September.

Now the program that saved the Chesapeake Bay oyster industry is in jeopardy. The budget President Donald Trump proposed Thursday would eliminate funding for the $73 million initiative, along with more than 50 other programs and 31 percent of the EPA’s overall budget. Funding isn’t the only thing on the chopping block. Trump vowed to boost economic growth by axing regulations, particularly environmental rules he blames for holding businesses back. Already, his administration has scrapped a rule protecting streams from coal mine pollution, tossed out a directive ordering oil and gas drillers to report methane emissions and overturned a regulation giving the EPA power to police fertilizer and manure runoff from farms, the chief contaminants in the Chesapeake Bay...

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/che … dc23bb?tpp

Dissension in the ranks as Health Care Vote Canceled After GOP Leaders Fail to Win Support.

Baywolfe wrote:

Dissension in the ranks as Health Care Vote Canceled After GOP Leaders Fail to Win Support.

They will probably mess around and do the kabuki theater to save face, but the bill is dead. Another day, or another month isn't going to make any difference. And I never heard anyone say it had any reasonable chance of getting through the Senate regardless.

Trump has got to be sweating it at this point. His record is nothing but strike outs, as the Russia scandals intensify by the day. Yesterday the odds makers had it at 50/50 whether he would finish out the term, or resign or get impeached before then.

Smudge wrote:

Invertebrates against Trump:

Chesapeake Bay's Booming Oyster Industry Is Alarmed By Trump's EPA Budget Cuts

A federally funded cleanup effort is finally restoring the bay's ecology, bringing back oyster jobs.

...Things started changing in the last several years as the effects of an Environmental Protection Agency cleanup that began in 1983 under President Ronald Reagan took effect. (President Barack Obama imposed even stricter targets in 2009). Levels of phosphorus and nitrogen, a third of which settled on the water from being wheezed by power plants into the air, fell. The water cleared. Grasses grew back in dense thickets, tightening the river bed with roots. 

By 2004, Coxton quit his day job and started cultivating oysters full time. At first, restaurants in the area, knowing how dirty the water had been, wouldn’t buy his product, even though it was safe to eat. He shipped them to upscale eateries in New York. But as water quality improved over the past decade, local demand came roaring back. Coxton opened his fifth restaurant Thursday evening and plans to cut the ribbon on a sixth in September.

Now the program that saved the Chesapeake Bay oyster industry is in jeopardy. The budget President Donald Trump proposed Thursday would eliminate funding for the $73 million initiative, along with more than 50 other programs and 31 percent of the EPA’s overall budget. Funding isn’t the only thing on the chopping block. Trump vowed to boost economic growth by axing regulations, particularly environmental rules he blames for holding businesses back. Already, his administration has scrapped a rule protecting streams from coal mine pollution, tossed out a directive ordering oil and gas drillers to report methane emissions and overturned a regulation giving the EPA power to police fertilizer and manure runoff from farms, the chief contaminants in the Chesapeake Bay...

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/che … dc23bb?tpp

They should have whatever's left of Allied Chemical clean up the Chesapeake.  They dumped a shitload of Kepone into the James River which subsequently fucked up many world class oyster beds. 
Those oysters were yuuuuuuge...remember eating quart after quart growing up.  Was pissed when they cancelled harvest  due to contamination - in the 70's.  I've eaten none since (even in the Pacific NW), that compare.



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Smudge wrote:

The story is pretty similar for Olympia oysters, which were nearly wiped out by pollution and over fishing. But a decades long conservation program has brought the species back from the brink, and created a delicious industry in what was once an industrial wasteland.

It's incredibly short sighted, and foolish to remove the protections which have been gradually bringing our environments back to a healthy state; this should not be a partisan issue. We all live here; all eat the food which is grown here, breath the air and raise our children. Gated communities offer no protection against what we do to the earth.

Trump is simply wrong to degrade our environmental protections to pump up short term profits. That's simply stealing from future generations.

What he said.

Fled wrote:

Smudge wrote:

The story is pretty similar for Olympia oysters, which were nearly wiped out by pollution and over fishing. But a decades long conservation program has brought the species back from the brink, and created a delicious industry in what was once an industrial wasteland.

It's incredibly short sighted, and foolish to remove the protections which have been gradually bringing our environments back to a healthy state; this should not be a partisan issue. We all live here; all eat the food which is grown here, breath the air and raise our children. Gated communities offer no protection against what we do to the earth.

Trump is simply wrong to degrade our environmental protections to pump up short term profits. That's simply stealing from future generations.

What he said.

I would have added, "Well, DUH!"

GooberMcNutly wrote:

Here is the logical fallacy I'm trying to get my head around: Does adding more money to the EPA give cleaner water? I would argue that many of the laws that are the source for improving water qualities (like limited catch seasons, runoff protection, etc.) are already on the books. Does it cost $73 million to make new laws? Or just to enforce the ones on the books? Or to make the existing ones more strict?

How many EPA inspectors do we get for $73 million?

Now your talking about effective management and leadership, it's a separate question and one that no one wants to address cuz that's actual work.  How many inspectors, buildings, vehicles and testing systems do you think we need?  Just the effort to build and maintain that information is going to cost you a chunk of change and this is just what we need to keep people from intentionally polluting our water supply.

Emmeran wrote:

Now your talking about effective management and leadership, it's a separate question and one that no one wants to address cuz that's actual work.  How many inspectors, buildings, vehicles and testing systems do you think we need?  Just the effort to build and maintain that information is going to cost you a chunk of change and this is just what we need to keep people from intentionally polluting our water supply.

Yes to this, Emmeran (your post came in while I was composing mine).

I can't say for certain that every EPA dollar is well spent, or that there isn't room for improvement. But wholesale shredding of the funding, and blanket opposition to scientifically established positions certainly will not improve things. And Trump is clearly catering to anti-environmental forces who would like to go back to the old ways -- when businesses could pollute, and leave the cleanup to others after they had slipped away with the profits.

And he does NOT have the support of the American people in this. Americans, across party lines, support a clean environment and are willing to pay the price to maintain it.

George Orr wrote:

Trump's enemies list is made up of...Republicans.  If it weren't for the real impact on the lives of real people, this shit would be funnier than fuck.

Like Trump needed to be told to keep a shit list, every deal guy I ever met had a shit list and they weren't shy about going out of their way to fuck with people on said list.

Smudge wrote:

Americans, across party lines, support a clean environment and are willing to pay the price to maintain it.

I agree. Blue or Red, we all want clean water, chirping birds and and to see the deer and the antelope play. But the fallacy is thinking that just giving cash money to the EPA will cause that. It's not like they are buying clean water and jumping fish off the shelf at Walmart. Amongst a certain segment of the population that seems to be the impression. "If I give a million dollars to a Three Letter Acronym I automagically get what I want." It just doesn't work that way, be it the EPA, HHS, HUD or Dept of State. I blame it all on the reliance to the service economy and the instant-demand, instant-supply, customer-is-always-right mindset.

When was the last time you heard a politico say "Fraud, waste and abuse"? If they were serious about making a TLA give value for their budget they should give the money to a non-political auditing team with a mission to improve effectiveness and let them squirm under their open interrogations for a while. But unless they can wield that brickbat for political reasons no elected gerrymanderer will unleash something like that lest it bite their personal golden calf on the ass.

All I know is that, for good or bad, the President is running this country almost exclusively through Executive Orders.  I'm no fan of Congress these days but only using one man's opinion for governing is generally called a Dictatorship.

The death of internet privacy is tearing Reddit’s The_Donald page apart...

As it turns out, people who spend their free time being assholes on the internet have a vested interest in internet-related privacy...Somehow, they missed the key fact that Trump and the professional obstructionists running the GOP are only in this thing for themselves, and they couldn’t care less about a bunch of shitposters on Reddit.