#2 2020-06-08 07:39:11

SpacePuppy wrote:

https://www.commondreams.org/views/2020/06/02/treason-ruling-class

Please, be sure to disarm and limit speech of those who UNDERSTAND concepts underlying this discourse.

BTW: Hedges, whom I respect, looks like he just popped a handful of SRIs and crawled out of his "dark place" for some UVs.

And yes, Obama (the "black" messiah) WAS the "BLACK MASCOT OF WALL STREET".  He had his chance to hold banksters accountable in '08 and FAILED.  Second only to Iraq war in FUCKING over the American People.    He's filthy rich and look where Holder is working.

Hedges and Dore can't bring themselves to the next logical conclusion:  A Constitutionally Limited Government, as Ron Paul advocated for decades, IS the solution.

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#3 2020-06-08 11:12:28

JetRx wrote:

SpacePuppy wrote:

https://www.commondreams.org/views/2020/06/02/treason-ruling-class

Please, be sure to disarm and limit speech of those who UNDERSTAND concepts underlying this discourse.

BTW: Hedges, whom I respect, looks like he just popped a handful of SRIs and crawled out of his "dark place" for some UVs.

And yes, Obama (the "black" messiah) WAS the "BLACK MASCOT OF WALL STREET".  He had his chance to hold banksters accountable in '08 and FAILED.  Second only to Iraq war in FUCKING over the American People.    He's filthy rich and look where Holder is working.

Hedges and Dore can't bring themselves to the next logical conclusion:  A Constitutionally Limited Government, as Ron Paul advocated for decades, IS the solution.

There we go again, being in complete accord. Kudo's, from the far left Libertarian stance.

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#4 2020-06-08 21:02:24

SpacePuppy wrote:

There we go again, being in complete accord. Kudo's, from the far left Libertarian stance.

Libertarianism is a far-right stance, selfish pricks whose only need from the government is to fatten their purses.

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#5 2020-06-08 21:56:33

Baywolfe wrote:

SpacePuppy wrote:

There we go again, being in complete accord. Kudo's, from the far left Libertarian stance.

Libertarianism is a far-right stance, selfish pricks whose only need from the government is to fatten their purses.

The term was originally an Anarchist term from the 19th century.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Definitio … _socialism

The Right stole it, like everything else.

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#6 2020-06-09 08:48:04

SpacePuppy wrote:

Baywolfe wrote:

SpacePuppy wrote:

There we go again, being in complete accord. Kudo's, from the far left Libertarian stance.

Libertarianism is a far-right stance, selfish pricks whose only need from the government is to fatten their purses.

The term was originally an Anarchist term from the 19th century.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Definitio … _socialism

The Right stole it, like everything else.

At this point, libertarianism is really just anarcho-capitalism.

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#7 2020-06-09 10:32:51

It is about time to differentiate forms of libertarianism.  I imagine it has been done, but I think that its best form focuses on individual liberties which do not significantly impinge on the rights of others.  Perhaps it will be criticized as being "libertarian light," but it might help to avoid turning it into what is destined to fail in a crowded world.  I do not want to sign on to an ideology that leaves the playing field open to rapacious gluttons.

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#8 2020-06-09 16:23:48

Umm, at this point, given who is promoting libertarianism, I pretty much associate the ideology with rapacious gluttons. Don't you?

How the libertarian right plans to profit from the pandemic
Quinn Slobodian

Disaster capitalists dream of disassembling nation states for post-viral exploitation

It’s easy to imagine how a particular breed of investor could see this pandemic as an opportunity that will accelerate existing trends. The loose attachments that investors feel towards this or that nation will grow even looser as capital becomes more mobile, and a sorting process will separate the productive few nations from the malingering many. States that don’t fall in line with the demands of this investor class will be starved by the voluntary expatriation of the wealthy, with their assets and abilities in tow.

If you assume this is merely a pessimistic vision, you’d be wrong. In fact it accords with a long-cultivated ideology that Srinivasan shares with a group of like-minded venture capitalists and entrepreneurs, who subscribe to variations of the radical libertarian philosophy known as “anarcho-capitalism”. The idea at its root is that a wealthy class of investors and entrepreneurs should be free to exit nation states and form new communities whose members can choose which rules (and tax laws) they’re governed by – as if those rules were products on a store shelf.

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#9 2020-06-09 16:33:04

I know they are out there and thriving, and that they find opportunity in and through dysfunction and distraction.   I also agree that the term "libertarian" has lost all appeal.  So I am not going to try very hard to salvage it.  My comment was more that I do see value in pushing for a wide range of individual liberties along the lines of my post.

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#10 2020-06-09 19:40:42

Fled wrote:

I know they are out there and thriving, and that they find opportunity in and through dysfunction and distraction.   I also agree that the term "libertarian" has lost all appeal.  So I am not going to try very hard to salvage it.  My comment was more that I do see value in pushing for a wide range of individual liberties along the lines of my post.

You're not wrong, but I'll bet you're smart enough to come up with your own term for who and what you are.

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#11 2020-06-09 22:29:31

Hmmm, maybe it will catch on. I love to spread abstract theories made of whole cloth.

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#12 2020-07-03 08:31:34

"Jeffrey Epstein accuser Virginia Giuffre has been ordered by a US District Judge to destroy files believed to contain the names of Epstein's associates - because they were "improperly obtained.'  Senior US District Judge Loretta Preska said on Wednesday that Giuffre's attorneys would need to provide proof that the documents had been destroyed, adding that "Counsel shall submit an affidavit detailing the steps taken to do so," according to Newsweek.

Obviously, that treasonous ruling class can not be implicated in most anything at all.

Funny how CNNMSNLSD missed this.

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