#2 2009-05-26 09:22:28

Crikey, Fnord, you're really on a roll today.  But, hey, I think you missed one:

http://www.reuters.com/article/mediaNew … 6920090525

"We're not racists. It will be good to have a Negro in the White House. It will be practical. Black on white, it will be easier to shoot him," one of the show's hosts remarked.

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The show also featured an interview with an actor pretending to be Obama. The host said, "The blacks, you all look alike," and then warned viewers to hide their purses.

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#3 2009-05-26 23:32:42

It's ok, he's just doing his part to help us compete head-to-head with the Chinese.

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#4 2009-05-27 00:06:13

$1.98 a month.

Kinda insulting, I think.

How does it work? Does the state just make up the difference?

I mean that must be the reason the women don't go screaming into the night when they find out about all his kids. They must assume they're going to be getting assistance.

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#5 2009-05-27 00:07:07

I know people freak out over the prospect of seeing starvation in our own country, but seriously, there are far too many people that play the system.  If we take away all the perks and free rides given to irresponsible people then nature will clear things out and give us a better society.  We need this guy's offspring as much as we need a case of the flaming crotch rot, I doubt a single one of these kids turns out to be worth a shit.  Liberal guilt does nothing but hold us back and allow worthless piles of shit to flourish on the backs of hardworking people.

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#6 2009-05-27 00:17:13

Dirckman wrote:

I know people freak out over the prospect of seeing starvation in our own country, but seriously, there are far too many people that play the system.  If we take away all the perks and free rides given to irresponsible people then nature will clear things out and give us a better society.  We need this guy's offspring as much as we need a case of the flaming crotch rot, I doubt a single one of these kids turns out to be worth a shit.  Liberal guilt does nothing but hold us back and allow worthless piles of shit to flourish on the backs of hardworking people.

I'm not versed on how much people on welfare get, but I'd hardly call it flourishing.

*looks up how much people on welfare get*

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#7 2009-05-27 01:02:41

Dirck... you are retarded in so many, many ways.  Nice going Mr. Social Darwinism.

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#8 2009-05-27 01:28:26

I'm sorry, but I'm not the problem here, I've always retained employment and done what I could to remain an asset.  I pay my taxes and do what I have to do to survive on what is left after over 30% of my income is stolen from me.  Your liberal guilt tells you that I'm somehow the problem here and that I'm somehow keeping other people from success, but I'm not.  Ya'll need to focus your hatred towards the real problem which is useless twerps like the one described in the article that fnord posted.  I know a dozen or so people just like him, perhaps not to the same level of abuse, but with the same mindset.  It's my right to say whatever the fuck I want to about them because my tax dollars are being used to support them and their kids.  I haven't made the same mistakes and choices that they have, why should I be held responsible for them?

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#9 2009-05-27 02:08:41

Yep.  Forget the whole structure of society except where it applies to you.  Get your nose out of your ass.  Not everyone was born with your privileges.  Yes you work, so do most people.  What do you want to do with the sick and kids of poor people, kill them because they aren't pulling their load?

Yes the poor little shits made the choice of being in poverty.  Pop a cap in them, right?  They are a drain on your money, right?

There are all kinds of novel ways of reducing dependent populations, including welfare to work for those who are able to.

Your insistence on some Ayn Randian dystopia is mundane, and fucking predictable.  You need to go volunteer in a soup kitchen, or somewhere else to widen your horizons and to suss out what people actually are going through rather than repeating a bunch of shite that you've been fed from John Wayne.

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#10 2009-05-27 02:15:53

This sperm distributor has managed to father at least 21 offspring in 11 years, and pushed the majority of the costs off on others.  In evolutionary terms, this is called success.  None of you have this many children, and I doubt if any of you will have 21 grandchildren.  The current system rewards this sort of reproductive behavior and imposes an evolutionary penalty on men who choose to produce children in a responsible manner with a committed partner.  As children fathered by serial impregnators are not likely to grow up to be high quality members of society, this has serious long-term implications.  The increase in the number of low value individuals is compounded by the fact that the responsible working men and women who are paying the costs associated with parasitic reproduction can not afford to have as many children of their own and limit the number of high value children they produce.

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#11 2009-05-27 02:27:38

Awright, castrate the seed broadcaster but abandoning his kids to their own grim fates only creates more problems.

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#12 2009-05-27 02:31:12

Consider the economic status; you'll have soldiers and producers of solders for the next round of wars.

In general, most people are on welfare for less than 5 years,the majority are women with children that have either been abandoned by their mate, or had to flee from abuse, or have fallen into familial habits like coneys in spring time.

The solution is education, real sex education, and a work-fare set up.

You don't see this bs in Europe except the UK because they thought the US model was such a shining example. 

You'd be surprised what a real education mixed with economic opportunity can do for people. 

Things can change.

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#13 2009-05-27 03:04:45

choad wrote:

Awright, castrate the seed broadcaster...

As noted in the video, the state doesn’t have the right to stop him from producing more crotchfruit.  He’s only 29 years old, so he could produce another 21 of them between now and 11 years from now when he’s 40.  Presumably his looks will start fading by then, which should reduce the number of spawning partners he’s able to attract.  If he matures into a handsome old devil, Thor help the taxpayers!

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#14 2009-05-27 11:45:28

If we educated, really educated, all the smart little kids I see in the ghettoes of los angeles, what we'd reap in benefits from their various talents would pay back whatever we've spent doling out to those groups over the years a hundred fold. I really see so many kids-smart as hell, attractive, funny, you name it, wasted, just fucking wasted by a system and a society by the time they're eight or nine years old. I don't know what the solution is, or how to fix it, but I do know those children are just as wonderful as the kids in my daughter's private school. Something bad happens.

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#15 2009-05-27 12:01:08

icangetyouatoe wrote:

If we educated, really educated, all the smart little kids I see in the ghettoes of los angeles, what we'd reap in benefits from their various talents would pay back whatever we've spent doling out to those groups over the years a hundred fold. I really see so many kids-smart as hell, attractive, funny, you name it, wasted, just fucking wasted by a system and a society by the time they're eight or nine years old. I don't know what the solution is, or how to fix it, but I do know those children are just as wonderful as the kids in my daughter's private school. Something bad happens.

The parents.

Or as a friend, an educator, recently recounted to me an in-service day they had at her school.  The local University sent an educators educator to tell these majority white teachers that the reason the majority black children in their school were under performing was that they did not understand how to educate black children because they didn't understand the culture.

It is no longer the fault of the parents who don't care.  White teachers apparently cannot teach black children properly.

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#16 2009-05-27 12:19:40

Scotty wrote:

icangetyouatoe wrote:

If we educated, really educated, all the smart little kids I see in the ghettoes of los angeles, what we'd reap in benefits from their various talents would pay back whatever we've spent doling out to those groups over the years a hundred fold. I really see so many kids-smart as hell, attractive, funny, you name it, wasted, just fucking wasted by a system and a society by the time they're eight or nine years old. I don't know what the solution is, or how to fix it, but I do know those children are just as wonderful as the kids in my daughter's private school. Something bad happens.

The parents.

Or as a friend, an educator, recently recounted to me an in-service day they had at her school.  The local University sent an educators educator to tell these majority white teachers that the reason the majority black children in their school were under performing was that they did not understand how to educate black children because they didn't understand the culture.

It is no longer the fault of the parents who don't care.  White teachers apparently cannot teach black children properly.

Amen, Brother Scotty!

You know, Sofakid has straight-A's and TWO Student of the Month certificates in the past couple months. (one in accelerated math), and Zookie spent his last words on calling me a loser because I'm a crazy pothead with past hard drug usage.

I have come to the conclusion that these honors are not because he works his fool head off, or because my "dysfunctional" approach at parenting is effective. Sofakid was just being honored for being white.

That, and Nevada public school education is so fucking retarded, my defective-spawn-of-a-druggie is the best candidate they could come up with. I'm sure glad none of his teachers are black...oh wait...a couple are...along with the vice principal.

The problem is with the parents not being committed to each other or the kid. Kids aren't stupid. They know if Mommy and Daddy like each other, and they know if Mommy and Daddy like them, and they know Mommy and Daddy's estimation of the benefits of taking their education seriously.

Like Toesy...your daughter (regardless of her age) realizes that it's a special privilege to recieve a private school education, and probably acts accordingly. Sad ghetto kids realize their education is little more than publicly subsidized daycare.

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#17 2009-05-27 12:23:32

Dmtdust wrote:

You don't see this bs in Europe except the UK because they thought the US model was such a shining example.

Don't get out much do you?

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#18 2009-05-27 13:18:43

Emmeran wrote:

Dmtdust wrote:

You don't see this bs in Europe except the UK because they thought the US model was such a shining example.

Don't get out much do you?

Meaning? 

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#19 2009-05-27 13:42:38

Meaning that human idiocy knows no bounds, there is not a social system in the free world which can prevent this flavor of self-destruction.  I've experienced simuliar situations in Germany, France and Japan; although I must admit that this fella has definitely taken the whole thing to the next level - but that probably just ordinary one-up-manship.

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#20 2009-05-27 13:48:57

Emmeran wrote:

...  there is not a social system in the free world which can prevent this flavor of self-destruction.

Skoal
[obviously]

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#21 2009-05-27 13:49:01

Generally speaking, I have found the set-ups worked better in the old EU... (not including the Eastern Bloc entities)  Education, tied in with work-fare... not perfect but a damn sight better.  This is not addressing what this man's problem is. (of course)...

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#22 2009-05-27 14:25:29

Whilst on the subject.. I lived a good deal of my life in Europe, but not during the last decade+... seeing this, I have to go with Em on his point.  http://www.nrc.nl/international/Feature … ed_mothers

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#23 2009-05-27 15:23:19

Scotty wrote:

icangetyouatoe wrote:

If we educated, really educated, all the smart little kids I see in the ghettoes of los angeles, what we'd reap in benefits from their various talents would pay back whatever we've spent doling out to those groups over the years a hundred fold. I really see so many kids-smart as hell, attractive, funny, you name it, wasted, just fucking wasted by a system and a society by the time they're eight or nine years old. I don't know what the solution is, or how to fix it, but I do know those children are just as wonderful as the kids in my daughter's private school. Something bad happens.

The parents.

Or as a friend, an educator, recently recounted to me an in-service day they had at her school.  The local University sent an educators educator to tell these majority white teachers that the reason the majority black children in their school were under performing was that they did not understand how to educate black children because they didn't understand the culture.

It is no longer the fault of the parents who don't care.  White teachers apparently cannot teach black children properly.

That line of thinking pisses me the fuck off because it makes excuses for the little black bastards in my kids' schools who don't want to learn and are intent on pulling everyone else down with them.  Black kids do not learn differently.  Many are raised in homes that do not value education.  If you grow up in a home without books and intelligent conversation those things just aren't going to be important to you.

I've sat through some of these "lectures" and I swear to God they are so racist and Eugenics-centered that if a white person were to say the same thing he'd be shot."  The person giving the lecture I attended actually said, "black children are more musical and athletic and white teachers need to find ways to incorporate this into teaching."  WTF?  Black children are a bunch of singing, dancing, tree-swinging sambos who can't learn like white kids? 

Anyway, in my experience, it always boils down to the parents.  Good teachers cannot carry the burden of poor parents.

As for the solution, I'm leaning Dustie's way...try to save as many as we can so they turn into productive members of society.  Gingrich was on to something when he suggested bringing back the orphanages.  Some people don't deserve to raise children.

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#24 2009-05-27 15:30:08

If you thought much differently, headkicker_girl you would not be a lawyer [a successful one].

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