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#3 2009-06-30 00:58:07

My “favorite” busted item? This cowboy pancake topped with faux bacon and vegan cheese, from LA Vegan Thai. But mostly just because, if you’re actually ordering a pancake layered with fake bacon and cheese from a Thai restaurant, I almost think you deserve it. Almost.

WTF is "vegan cheese" (beyond a contradiction in terms)?

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#4 2009-06-30 01:10:09

sigmoid freud wrote:

My “favorite” busted item? This cowboy pancake topped with faux bacon and vegan cheese, from LA Vegan Thai. But mostly just because, if you’re actually ordering a pancake layered with fake bacon and cheese from a Thai restaurant, I almost think you deserve it. Almost.

WTF is "vegan cheese" (beyond a contradiction in terms)?

It's like flavored vinyl.

Don't get me started about vegan food substitutes.

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#5 2009-06-30 01:20:28

I can't believe those people are treating trace amounts of animal protein like it's poison.  I happen to live on the Neanderthal diet plan by having almost 85% of my calorie intake coming from meats.  I had a sausage breakfast burrito from Taco Johns for breakfast, a twelve ounce Ribeye at Chili's today for lunch then ate a half rack of BBQ ribs from Famous Dave's for supper and I'll be alive and kicking far longer than any of these vegan fucktards.

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#6 2009-06-30 01:29:46

Dirckman wrote:

I can't believe those people are treating trace amounts of animal protein like it's poison.  I happen to live on the Neanderthal diet plan by having almost 85% of my calorie intake coming from meats.  I had a sausage breakfast burrito from Taco Johns for breakfast, a twelve ounce Ribeye at Chili's today for lunch then ate a half rack of BBQ ribs from Famous Dave's for supper and I'll be alive and kicking far longer than any of these vegan fucktards.

Mr. Sofie eats like The Flintstones, too.

It's embarrassing sometimes.

I laugh at all the fat vegans who live on all complex carbohydrates (starches), and then look at my man who has a perfect swimmer's body, and can eat his weight in meat.

So he might have a coronary. At least he got to eat prime rib all the time, and enjoyed life.

The vegans are all like "We're healthier!". But I don't know about that.

Health food stores are filled with people who don't look very healthy.

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#7 2009-06-30 01:34:26

Dirckman wrote:

I can't believe those people are treating trace amounts of animal protein like it's poison.

"Vegans" are of the same rigidly intolerant mindset that includes religious fundamentalists, PETA, NRA Members, Greens, skinheads...well, the list goes on all the way to the scattered split ends of belief systems and ideology.

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#8 2009-06-30 01:41:03

Dirckman wrote:

I can't believe those people are treating trace amounts of animal protein like it's poison.  I happen to live on the Neanderthal diet plan by having almost 85% of my calorie intake coming from meats.  I had a sausage breakfast burrito from Taco Johns for breakfast, a twelve ounce Ribeye at Chili's today for lunch then ate a half rack of BBQ ribs from Famous Dave's for supper and I'll be alive and kicking far longer than any of these vegan fucktards.

My brother was on that diet and lost a shitload of weight, while eating 32oz porterhouse steaks for dinner every night (yeah, his butcher loves him). Hell, every meal he ate was huge and all-meat.

Strange diet, but sure seems to work.

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#9 2009-06-30 01:52:43

sofaking wrote:

Dirckman wrote:

I can't believe those people are treating trace amounts of animal protein like it's poison.  I happen to live on the Neanderthal diet plan by having almost 85% of my calorie intake coming from meats.  I had a sausage breakfast burrito from Taco Johns for breakfast, a twelve ounce Ribeye at Chili's today for lunch then ate a half rack of BBQ ribs from Famous Dave's for supper and I'll be alive and kicking far longer than any of these vegan fucktards.

Mr. Sofie eats like The Flintstones, too.

It's embarrassing sometimes.

I laugh at all the fat vegans who live on all complex carbohydrates (starches), and then look at my man who has a perfect swimmer's body, and can eat his weight in meat.

So he might have a coronary. At least he got to eat prime rib all the time, and enjoyed life.

The vegans are all like "We're healthier!". But I don't know about that.

Health food stores are filled with people who don't look very healthy.

Amen.
One whole side of my family is simply famous for eating unhealthy and also living to freakishly old ages. My grandparent had 12 brothers and sisters (mom has 32 1st cousins) and, with the exception of 2 who died of cancer, they all lived to their 90's and I'd say 7 of them were/are obese their whole life (2 left, both in their mid-90's, one a daily heavy drinker since the Korean war).

On the flip side, I know a guy who's father, uncle and grandfather all died before the age of 45 of heart attacks, so he's been a health nut his whole life, running every day, taking good care of himself.

He died at 36, of a massive heart attack.

Sure, extra weight is hard on the heart but heart disease is more about genetics than anything else.

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#10 2009-06-30 02:12:14

ptah13 wrote:

Sure, extra weight is hard on the heart but heart disease is more about genetics than anything else.

I am so glad for you and the many others who had such foresight in choosing their ancestors. Everyone else, try to eat less meat, please.

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#11 2009-06-30 04:28:28

This is why hardcore Sikhs don’t eat out.

Maybe vegans who look unhealthy were unhealthy to begin with.  I’m mostly vegan, probably older than Mr. Sofie, and also have a swimmer’s body, in a 55 gallon drum.

However, vegan paranoia could really sell some products.  How about a portable animal product detection kit?  The chemistry is easy.

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#12 2009-06-30 08:07:22

A combination of solvents, disinfectants, abrasives, steam cleaning and scraping are usually deployed on the equipment, in order to remove caked-on food particles, debris and carbonized (burned) cooked-on residue.

Vegans - Destroying the environment one meal at a time.

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#13 2009-06-30 10:11:47

sigmoid freud wrote:

ptah13 wrote:

Sure, extra weight is hard on the heart but heart disease is more about genetics than anything else.

I am so glad for you and the many others who had such foresight in choosing their ancestors. Everyone else, try to eat less meat, please.

My point being (that you possibly missed) is that a vegan lifestyle has little to nothing to do with health. Eating NO meat doesn't make a person more healthy. 

Humans are omnivores, and when you intentionally deny your body that which it requires (due to the wonders of evolution), you're fucking yourself up.

Personally, I think nothing could possibly be more absurd than "vegans". I really really love Vegan food that is modeled after meat, cheese, etc.  One I know eats stuff called “Veat” that’s actually pressed into animal shapes, like chicken quarters.

How twisted is that?

Most vegans I know seem to be vegans in order to claim some sort of superiority complex.

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#14 2009-06-30 10:24:24

ptah13 wrote:

My point being (that you possibly missed) is that a vegan lifestyle has little to nothing to do with health. Eating NO meat doesn't make a person more healthy. 

Humans are omnivores, and when you intentionally deny your body that which it requires (due to the wonders of evolution), you're fucking yourself up.

Personally, I think nothing could possibly be more absurd than "vegans". I really really love Vegan food that is modeled after meat, cheese, etc.  One I know eats stuff called “Veat” that’s actually pressed into animal shapes, like chicken quarters.

How twisted is that?

Most vegans I know seem to be vegans in order to claim some sort of superiority complex.

Precisely.

Let us not forget that it is the fate of all herbivores to eventually be killed and eaten; that is just the way it always has been. (Just as it is the fate of all carnivores to eventually age or get injured and starve to death)

I on the other hand, a proud Omnivore, try very hard to avoid eating meat from factory farms whenever possible; it's just good karma.

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#15 2009-06-30 10:49:42

The so called "Cave Man's Diet" is a misnomer... From all that has been excavated, tested and run in comparison to modern hunter gather's meat usage comprises some 20-22% of the diet max.  Women supply the greatest amount of food in the hunter gatherer complex.  Large amount of meat consumption is a relatively new phenomena, noted first in Britain in the upper classes a few centuries back.  It is not an ancient diet.  You may consider your diet a kind of "Inuit Diet" without the fish and seaweed products, but not a caveman diet.

Humans seem to do better with less meat comparatively speaking.  I love meat, and I eat it too frequently.

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#16 2009-06-30 10:57:26

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#17 2009-06-30 12:14:49

Cute pic.

I swear the all meat diet doesn't make a person fat. Carbohydrates do.

When I had to lose 80 lbs after being a baby condo, the Atkins shit worked like a charm. It helped fuck my kidneys to kingdom come, but it actually makes you lose weight.

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#18 2009-06-30 12:21:05

The only people I know who've actually lost weight on a diet were on Atkins.  As soon as they went off it, the weight came back.

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#19 2009-06-30 12:23:00

Abundant Uric Acid = Gout.  (over consumption of meat, lack of exercise etc.)

The pic was a joke.  He gets plenty of carbs... balance is all.

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#20 2009-06-30 12:44:44

George Orr wrote:

The only people I know who've actually lost weight on a diet were on Atkins.  As soon as they went off it, the weight came back.

I have to agree with DMT. It is all about balance.

From a science standpoint, you deny your body one of it's primary sources of fuel and it burns fat instead (hence why both atkins and "neanderthin", or whatever it's called, temporarily work).

Unless you choose to eat that way the rest of your life, as soon as you return to normal food consumption you'll gain back your weight.

The only really healthy way to stay in shape is dietary balance + exercise. Diets only work while you are on them.

On a side note:

I do have to backpedal, a little bit, on my previous post. Sometimes I just don't know how big of a dick I sound until I reread something.

My best friend, who passed last year, was a devout vegetarian for 35 years. If you are a vegetarian because you don't wish to stop the beating heart of an animal, I'm all for you. I just clown on those who claim they are doing it solely for health reasons.

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#21 2009-06-30 12:47:29

Dmtdust wrote:

Anorexia support groups (people who are "pro-anorexia") might very well be the dumbest fucks on Earth.

Those "Thinspiration" folks, linked to on Cruel years ago, just blew me away on the stupidity factor.

amazing....

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#22 2009-06-30 15:17:08

Emmeran wrote:

A combination of solvents, disinfectants, abrasives, steam cleaning and scraping are usually deployed on the equipment, in order to remove caked-on food particles, debris and carbonized (burned) cooked-on residue.

Vegans - Destroying the environment one meal at a time.

So quick to hate you were, read the article you did not.  The food processing plant is doing this for people with allergies, not for vegans.  Seriously, how many vegans do y’all know?  They’re like internet boogey men.

Yes humans are omnivores.  We lack the specialized equipment (rumen, long cecum etc.) to get the most out of plants.  We also lack the specializations for carnivores (short digestive system, shredding teeth etc.)  What we ate during our long tortuous evolution is anybodies’ guess.

Yes, the meat diet works for some people some of the time.  Excess protein is deaminated and the resulting molecules are burned like carbs.  The nitrogenous wastes produced are toxic and take a lot of water to piss out, hence the immediate weight loss.

As a field, nutritional science is a fucking mess.  The only thing they can really say to everybody is have a varied diet and stay thin.  Since plants contain a wider variety of molecules, and are less calorically dense, a plant centered diet is generally healthier.

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#23 2009-07-01 03:34:06

phoQ wrote:

Emmeran wrote:

A combination of solvents, disinfectants, abrasives, steam cleaning and scraping are usually deployed on the equipment, in order to remove caked-on food particles, debris and carbonized (burned) cooked-on residue.

Vegans - Destroying the environment one meal at a time.

So quick to hate you were, read the article you did not.  The food processing plant is doing this for people with allergies, not for vegans.  Seriously, how many vegans do y’all know?  They’re like internet boogey men.

Yes humans are omnivores.  We lack the specialized equipment (rumen, long cecum etc.) to get the most out of plants.  We also lack the specializations for carnivores (short digestive system, shredding teeth etc.)  What we ate during our long tortuous evolution is anybodies’ guess.

Yes, the meat diet works for some people some of the time.  Excess protein is deaminated and the resulting molecules are burned like carbs.  The nitrogenous wastes produced are toxic and take a lot of water to piss out, hence the immediate weight loss.

As a field, nutritional science is a fucking mess.  The only thing they can really say to everybody is have a varied diet and stay thin.  Since plants contain a wider variety of molecules, and are less calorically dense, a plant centered diet is generally healthier.

So, basically, "eat your fucking veggies".

I get ya!

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#24 2009-07-01 10:26:17

phoQ wrote:

Emmeran wrote:

A combination of solvents, disinfectants, abrasives, steam cleaning and scraping are usually deployed on the equipment, in order to remove caked-on food particles, debris and carbonized (burned) cooked-on residue.

Vegans - Destroying the environment one meal at a time.

So quick to hate you were, read the article you did not.  The food processing plant is doing this for people with allergies, not for vegans.  Seriously, how many vegans do y’all know?  They’re like internet boogey men.

Yes humans are omnivores.  We lack the specialized equipment (rumen, long cecum etc.) to get the most out of plants.  We also lack the specializations for carnivores (short digestive system, shredding teeth etc.)  What we ate during our long tortuous evolution is anybodies’ guess.

Yes, the meat diet works for some people some of the time.  Excess protein is deaminated and the resulting molecules are burned like carbs.  The nitrogenous wastes produced are toxic and take a lot of water to piss out, hence the immediate weight loss.

As a field, nutritional science is a fucking mess.  The only thing they can really say to everybody is have a varied diet and stay thin.  Since plants contain a wider variety of molecules, and are less calorically dense, a plant centered diet is generally healthier.

Actually I live and work in LA County - I know quite a few "Vegans"; and yes I understand the food processing industry and the reasons for cleanliness - do you understand "Humor"??

Our ancients were opportunistic eaters, they ate whatever they could get their hands on - scientifically this is refered to as "Survival".

Ethnically speaking each separate thread of the human race has slightly different nutritional needs - this is known as "evolutionary traits"; however these differences are disappearing quickly and in the future we will all survive on Carls Jr.

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#25 2009-07-01 15:13:21

Emmeran wrote:

do you understand "Humor"??

…when it’s funny or not retroactive.  But I’ll assume your other incorrect comments are also humor, and refrain from nitpicking.

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#26 2009-07-01 21:08:00

phoQ wrote:

…when it’s funny or not retroactive.  But I’ll assume your other incorrect comments are also humor, and refrain from nitpicking.

Look, with the thousands of comedians out of work in this recession you should be able to find really funny anywhere - just don't look for it from me.

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#27 2009-07-04 02:17:27

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