I have had the opposite experience - the stuff I've ended up with over the past few years has been so strong I've stopped using it completely.  I miss being able to be a little buzzed rather than twitchy and extremely paranoid while rendered physically immobile.  Last year I made the mistake of trying a hit of "sour diesel" and spent the afternoon and evening trying to get out from under the shit cloud I hallucinated.

Today 14:45:36

Interesting once again.

Everybody could use a little vacation from themselves, now and then. Weed is unfortunately too variable--place to place, time to time--that it's not worth the hassle (internal or external) unless I know it's decent and have time set aside. I think Phreddy's got the right idea, that a few of us may be requiring an "Cruel/HS.org Liver Swap" at some point.

Hmm. "Cruel High School," like we 'graduated' from the other one?

Anyway... Lawyers are best left out of the picture, unless you already have one on retainer for other web-related matters. It's like not keeping a gun around the house or on your person if you're not prepared to use it, and know how to use it judiciously. Which includes not waving it around at passers-by, or run-of-the-mill trolls.

Someone unfamiliar with the interpersonal terrain here could easily mistake this for veritable haven of bastardry. Likewise, the thin-skinned or self-righteous need not apply. Moderating any online community has its pitfalls, but Rogers' laissez faire approach had its ups and downs. Ultimately, you can't steel yourself for the imbalanced minority who stumble through, but it's up to you how you protect your assets from harm.

If people can't defend themselves, or behave indefensibly, then a lawyer isn't going to fix that, but if someone were to suggest that content or conversations conducted here were in some way illegal, then it's incumbent upon them to take the first action. If I had a dollar for every fake C&D letter I've read...then I guess I could have bought Cruel. On the other hand, if you wish to preclude different inconveniences, a slightly more detailed "About" page might go a long way into CYA territory.

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pALEPHx wrote:

a slightly more detailed "About" page might go a long way

Most of those efforts describe how one person got there, often with special thanks to all the A-Holes-In-One who made it necessary.

For a this-is-what-it-is observation, nothing yet rivals George Orr's remarks from 4 years ago, which I'll have to root around to find, because the @#$%!! archives are [...breathes into paper bag...]

choad wrote:

Most of those efforts describe how one person got there, often with special thanks to all the A-Holes-In-One who made it necessary.

I think what I was trying to say, without actually spelling it out, was some sort of guidelines, TOS, and privacy policy, the latter of which is more or less essential to any public-use website where you possess a modicum of personal information about your regulars.

I know the thought of "rules" here withers faster than Hugh Hefner's cock after the Viagra runs out, but I'm not suggesting that you describe so much what people should do or not do, but to more minimally detail what's worthy of getting booted. Most forums WANT more members, and a broad variety of them, but the gated community concept is gaining steam. A TOS just covers your ass against the more frivolous interactions.

You have a right not to be abused for your generosity, but in this age of idiots spilling hot coffee on themselves, you must necessarily dictate your expectations, or else be driven to a lot more than hyperventillation. If there's one common denominator among ex-Cruelites, then it's a strong regard for personal responsibility. You don't want to be fending off the rest without some kind of statement of intent. It's not about "Censorship vs. Freedom of Speech," but what will keep HS.org open and its members contributing without being distracted by harrassment or defacement of the site.

opsec wrote:

This post may effectively fuck me for a position requiring TS with full lifestyle polygraph.  I hope you're all happy, dammit.

Most of us lurking here work for the government, so the polygraph will not be necessary  We already have a dossier on you and all the other midnight tokers on this site.  Carry on.

Phreddy wrote:

Most of us lurking here work for the government, so the polygraph will not be necessary

So there's hope, eh?  Hey do my records mention that time in '89 when that dead hookers body was...   well, I'm sure you'll realize that was simply misfiled and it doesn't belong in my dossier.

Drugs are bad, mmmkay???

Roger_That wrote:

headkicker_girl wrote:

And if you do, liquor is legal, cheaper, and you can get it while you're picking up milk and cereal for the kids.

Not in MD.  I so wish the super wal mart stocked alcohol....it is so much cheaper there.

Goddamned shitty state.

20% cheaper across the board than in Florida.  A half gallon of Bicardi (cue angels singing) is $18 here, and $23 in FL. 

Limes are more expensive up here, but I consider that a fair trade-off.

As I didn't even start very occasionally smoking grass until I was in my mid-20s - holding off on the fun stuff such as shrooms, X, and others until much more recently in life - I have to say I'll take good grass over liquor any day of the week.

I always worry about what liquor is going to do to my liver (I have too many friends who have battled various forms of hepatitis) and even before that became an issue, I was never much of a drinker anyway. Maybe it's the grass available here in the Bay Area, but I've never had the problems with paranoia you describe and I've been smoking it at least a couple times a week for about four or five years now. Occasionally I smoke it to get totally blotto, and usually I take just a toke to get a nice bit of relaxation. Among gay men, "pot and poppers" is often a regular part of sex - as it is for me. I've done worse: I was playing with meth for a while (not regularly, but enough to realize how stupid it was) and even my minimal usage had dire consequences. I won't go into details, but let's just say I'm alive and grateful.

Responding to George's comments about the dealers themselves, I've been lucky I guess. My providers are decent people who like to smoke grass. Now, if my backache doesn't desist after the two tablets of Excedrin I took, I'm sure I'll be smoking tonight to help that along.

Taint wrote:

I have to say I'll take good grass over liquor any day of the week.

Me, too--in spades.  I don't drink either.  I don't think of myself as a bluenose; I just never built up much of a tolerance for booze, and nowadays if I drink too much I just fall asleep, which isn't very sociable.

This thread is making me nostalgic for my toking days...

Roger_That wrote:

Stop having sex while bent over, that should cure the back!!!!

Who's bending over?

George Orr wrote:

One factor is that I became uneasy about the people I had to associate with in order to get the stuff.

There's a good reason to live up here in far Northern California.  Everyone has at least one close friend who grows dynamite shit.

headkicker_girl wrote:

DoucheEllington wrote:

I miss being able to be a little buzzed rather than twitchy and extremely paranoid while rendered physically immobile.

Girl, that's why I gave it up years ago.  I was used to the kind of high where you get a little buzzed for an hour or two, take a nap, and wake up refreshed...the kind of buzz where you could still have a few drinks and feel giddy and happy. The last time I dabbled (over 10 years ago), I found nothing but skunky weed that produced a headache and very little buzz, or knock-you-off-your ass weed, where the few minutes of eurphoria was cancelled out by the hours of paranoia.  I couldn't get to sleep, and I couldn't come down...not pleasant in my book.

That is the problem with Indica.  Come back to Sativa.  You'd be pleasantly surprised...  I of course don't do it anymore, but the complaint you are registering has everything to do with Indica.


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