#1 2012-09-25 16:39:18
http://realclearpolitics.com/video/2012 … _2012.html
"Does it bother you that Obama is a mormon?"
"Does it bother you that Mitt Romney is black?"
"Do you hope Obama finds and kills Osama if he wins?"
"Do you think McCain will win this time against Obama?"
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#2 2012-09-25 18:01:27
So Egoist, is the fact that the overwhelming majority of niggers are retarded by any objective standard a new discovery for you?
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#3 2012-09-25 18:30:07
C'mon Fnord - it's not just the niggers who are dumb as posts. It's a whole helluva lot of you. For whatever bad reason, your education system has turned out several generations of turnips. I'd flood the thread with evidence but Woggah might get mad at me.
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#4 2012-09-25 19:17:51
fnord wrote:
So Egoist, is the fact that the overwhelming majority of niggers are retarded by any objective standard a new discovery for you?
Sorry fnord, the overwhelming majority of retards who made it into that segment are retards, selective editing will do wonders. There is a long list of retarded whites caught on video, so go on Wilbur, I dare you.
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#5 2012-09-25 20:15:29
WilberCuntLicker wrote:
your education system has turned out several generations of turnips. I'd flood the thread with evidence but Woggah might get mad at me.
God damn, sixth place. No surprise. They're too busy circle-jerking over their hatred of America while pouring their money in Quebec out of liberal guilt to do much of anything.
fnord wrote:
So Egoist, is the fact that the overwhelming majority of niggers are retarded by any objective standard a new discovery for you?
lol, but it goes to show they'll vote for Obaaaaama no matter what.
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#6 2012-09-25 21:10:08
Egoist wrote:
WilberCuntLicker wrote:
your education system has turned out several generations of turnips. I'd flood the thread with evidence but Woggah might get mad at me.
http://blogs.cfr.org/lindsay/files/2011 … sities.png
God damn, sixth place. No surprise. They're too busy circle-jerking over their hatred of America while pouring their money in Quebec out of liberal guilt to do much of anything.fnord wrote:
So Egoist, is the fact that the overwhelming majority of niggers are retarded by any objective standard a new discovery for you?
lol, but it goes to show they'll vote for Obaaaaama no matter what.
Hilarious - this ties in perfectly with what I said about kiddytroll sources. The chart above is from the Council for Foreign Relations - from whose ranks come Obama's top advisors. It's also widely distrusted by anyone who isn't a fanboy for the elite. This is not a clean source little boy - your argument is disqualified by your overzealous stupidity.
Here are a few less tainted views of the reality of American education:
First off, read this report from the OECD's Programme for International Student Assessment. If that's a little onerous I'll give you the short version: American 15 year olds ranked 24th of 38 in mathematics, 19th of 38 in science, 12th of 38 in reading, and 26th of 38 in problem solving. In the 2006 assessment, the U.S. ranked 35th out of 57 in mathematics and 29th out of 57 in science. Overall, U.S. scores were behind those of most other developed nations.
WSJ: The U.S. lags far behind other developed countries at the K-12 level in terms of measured performance in math and science courses.
A decent article from the Education Portal on the Top 5 Reasons Why Public Schools Are Failing Our Children - which asserts that "...the average U.S. fourth grader doesn't even have the most basic proficiency in common school subjects...."
And here's a good little infographic that demonstrates how the US spends more per child, for less measurable result, than 10 other countries, Canada included:
There's a plethora of depressing evidence for the failure of the American education system - most of it sourced from within the ranks of American educators - that it's pretty much a dead argument. (Except for Eggo, of course, who argues with amusing hauteur from his seat on the Ayn Rand bandwagon.) And no, my humour is not improved by the failure of the States to create thinking people. I do not rejoice. In fact, I really wish you'd get your shit together and stop churning out morons.
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#7 2012-09-25 21:42:39
WilberCuntLicker wrote:
There's a plethora of depressing evidence for the failure of the American education system - most of it sourced from within the ranks of American educators - that it's pretty much a dead argument. (Except for Eggo, of course, who argues with amusing hauteur from his seat on the Ayn Rand bandwagon.) And no, my humour is not improved by the failure of the States to create thinking people. I do not rejoice. In fact, I really wish you'd get your shit together and stop churning out morons.
Unfortunately WCL your statistics are apples vs. oranges. Firstly we all know a country like the U.S. cannot realistically be compared to an isolated, low population country like Finland. Secondly you should not make comparison's at age 15 when most European students have been sorted between High School (tested) and trade school (untested). Also our numbers include the vast population of illegal immigrants who routinely drop out early and whom I think we should start deporting north instead of south.
All that being said, we do have a lot of room for improvement.
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#8 2012-09-25 23:15:48
Emmeran wrote:
WilberCuntLicker wrote:
There's a plethora of depressing evidence for the failure of the American education system - most of it sourced from within the ranks of American educators - that it's pretty much a dead argument. (Except for Eggo, of course, who argues with amusing hauteur from his seat on the Ayn Rand bandwagon.) And no, my humour is not improved by the failure of the States to create thinking people. I do not rejoice. In fact, I really wish you'd get your shit together and stop churning out morons.
Unfortunately WCL your statistics are apples vs. oranges. Firstly we all know a country like the U.S. cannot realistically be compared to an isolated, low population country like Finland. Secondly you should not make comparison's at age 15 when most European students have been sorted between High School (tested) and trade school (untested). Also our numbers include the vast population of illegal immigrants who routinely drop out early and whom I think we should start deporting north instead of south.
All that being said, we do have a lot of room for improvement.
One doesn't need to Duck Duck Go much to figure that out. This list of 20 Troubling Facts about American Education is 13 years old but salient, especially given its source: Dr. William J. Bennett, former U.S. Secretary of Education in the Reagan administration, Co-Director of Empower America and a Distinguished Fellow with The Heritage Foundation.
And here's a quote from the ACT test administrators: "Only 24% of all 2010 graduates met all four ACT College Readiness Benchmarks, meaning that 76% were not adequately prepared academically for first-year college courses in English Composition, College Algebra, social sciences, and Biology."
By anyone's standards, that's a big fail. Furthermore, blaming America's poor test scores and inadequate college-readiness on the children of <11-million illegal immigrants just makes things worse. Send them all home from school - see what it gets you. As many American educators seem to be saying, your problems are systemic and endogenous - there's no such thing as a perfect student population.
(And besides, there's a tendency on the part of educated white people to dismiss stats that include blacks, hispanics, chinks, east indians, injuns, rednecks and hillbillies, but once they're dismissed, what's left? According to your census bureau (from wikipedophilia) minorities accounted for 50.4% of the children born in the U.S. between July 2010 and July 2011 - are niglets and dago-hybrids American or not? If they aren't, you should disembarrass yourselves of them [concentration camps etc., are at least more honest than ghettoization]. But if they are Americans - well, you know where I'm going with this.)
(And let's not even begin to think about where all this leads to, as teachers are promoted from the ranks of the poorly-educated to educate ad ignoratum the next poor generation...ad infinitum.
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#9 2012-09-25 23:42:43
WilberCuntLicker wrote:
By anyone's standards, that's a big fail. Furthermore, blaming America's poor test scores and inadequate college-readiness on the children of <11-million illegal immigrants just makes things worse. Send them all home from school - see what it gets you. As many American educators seem to be saying, your problems are systemic and endogenous - there's no such thing as a perfect student population.
(And besides, there's a tendency on the part of educated white people to dismiss stats that include blacks, hispanics, chinks, east indians, injuns, rednecks and hillbillies, but once they're dismissed, what's left? According to your census bureau (from wikipedophilia) minorities accounted for 50.4% of the children born in the U.S. between July 2010 and July 2011 - are niglets and dago-hybrids American or not? If they aren't, you should disembarrass yourselves of them [concentration camps etc., are at least more honest than ghettoization]. But if they are Americans - well, you know where I'm going with this.)
(And let's not even begin to think about where all this leads to, as teachers are promoted from the ranks of the poorly-educated to educate ad ignoratum the next poor generation...ad infinitum.
I'll give you all of that and still admonish you for ignoring the other two facts; considering the situation we are still doing a great job here. Does it need to get better? Definitely - however the current weeping and gnashing of teeth is over-played as a political maneuver by both sides. Given our size, make-up and external influences we aren't doing bad; not great by any means but definitely far from bad. Implementing trade schools would help our statistics considerably.
The effects of culture should also be considered: our children are so spoiled and distracted that improvements are difficult at best. Now that may sound apologist to you (and more importantly to Eyorist) but it's a definite fact. Success has its price. It is important to note that this fact that is slowly becoming an overwhelming problem in Japan, Taiwan and Korea, children observe the misery and frustration of their corporate engineer father and house-wife mother and desire something more. I mean, why study math when one can focus on 17th century music?
In the end Eyorist won't understand any of this, nor will he understand those that served in the military - he'll simply spout Tea Party nonsense expect the rest of us to change our opinions based on that.
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#10 2012-09-25 23:43:25
Also, I should add - as the USA goes, so goes Canada. =)
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#11 2012-09-25 23:57:52
Emmeran, great job disproving the asshat from Canaduh who got all sorts of buttfrustrated once his toy country gets bashed.
Funny how quickly liberal hatred comes out rather than discussing their racist, crony-capitalist in office who is afraid of the muzzos. Will he come out and condemn piss jesus? Of course not.
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#12 2012-09-26 00:14:51
Eeyore-ist wrote:
Emmeran, great job disproving the asshat from Canaduh who got all sorts of buttfrustrated once his toy country gets bashed.
Funny how quickly liberal hatred comes out rather than discussing their racist, crony-capitalist in office who is afraid of the muzzos. Will he come out and condemn piss jesus? Of course not.
Eeyore-ist you shouldn't suddenly assume I agree with a trolling sock puppet. You're over-the-top political machinations and sudden emergence scream sock-puppet and I hate this figure out who I am game.
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#13 2012-09-26 00:37:08
Egoist, have you noticed how little you've contributed to this conversation.
The history of our race and each individual's experience are sown thick with evidence that a truth is not hard to kill and a lie told well is immortal - Mark Twain
Despite the obliquity of the quote, I have now actually added more value to this conversation. Feel free to quote something famous and irrelevant to illustrate that you haven't taken the point.
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#14 2012-09-26 01:12:05
Emmeran wrote:
The effects of culture should also be considered...
Culture is, I think, at least partly a result of education, whether organized or not. As to the idea that Canada will follow the US down the education-drain, I'm not sure. On the west coast, many of our immigrants are Chinese, and their culture values teachers like no other. Most East Indians, our other immigration mainstay, are also insistent that their children be properly schooled. Their votes are increasingly important, and they (especially the hard-assed Chinese) may actually force us to adopt more stringent education policies. Of course, with a neo-con government in power, who knows - you may well be right.
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#15 2012-09-26 10:18:28
WilberCuntLicker wrote:
Culture is, I think, at least partly a result of education, whether organized or not. As to the idea that Canada will follow the US down the education-drain, I'm not sure. On the west coast, many of our immigrants are Chinese, and their culture values teachers like no other. Most East Indians, our other immigration mainstay, are also insistent that their children be properly schooled. Their votes are increasingly important, and they (especially the hard-assed Chinese) may actually force us to adopt more stringent education policies. Of course, with a neo-con government in power, who knows - you may well be right.
You have to consider that there does seem to be a trend of leveling as a nation obtains a fully modern culture, we've seen this slow trend in Japan and Korea already. People have more options and appear to begin to make different choices. The other conditions I've mentioned probably still have an impact but overall on the surface there is the appearance of this (and no I'm not going to quote a ton of scientific papers and pretend I fully read and understand them).
Besides who really wants to undertake 8 years of education to be a doctor when you can get into the finance world and get filthy rich with a four year degree?
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