phreddy wrote:

A very interesting story.  Please try to overlook the story's source and keep an open mind about the content.  The follow the link to the Russian version of the agreement in question.  In light of the recent incidences of violation of our civil rights, the idea that our government would use Russian troops to control unruly crowds at big events and during disasters seems both feasible and chilling. 

EMERCOM of Russia wrote:

In addition, the parties approved of U.S.-Russian cooperation in this field in 2013-2014, which envisages exchange of experience including in monitoring and forecasting emergency situations, training of rescuers, development of mine-rescuing and provision of security at mass events.

Phreddy, this kind of shit has been circulating for 20 years.  Determent camps were being built, black helicopters were all Russian spies, UN controlling US military, yadda, yadda, yadda.

Even if this particular item were true, all you're really objecting to is that the US is going to use Contractors for crowd control.  Isn't that the American/Capitalist way?  I'm sure they're very well trained an disciplined.

phreddy wrote:

Please try to overlook the story's source and keep an open mind about the content.

[non-sarcasm]Thanks Phred, I needed a laugh this morning![/non-sarcasm]

As you mentioned, although you left out a word which would have made you correct as well, it is unconstitutional to use OUR military for domestic police activities. I don't think the writers of the constitution even contemplated other countries military troops ever being used in such a way. And judging by the source of this information, I don't believe they will be.

Also, with little effort, the writer of this article changes the fact that 20 troops came here to train into "the fact that Russian forces are already operating inside America is proven". Proven to be a lie? I would say so. Training in a joint situation is not the same as troops operating inside the US. The choice of words in this article is purposeful and meant to get people such as yourself (gullible) all riled up. And see how that's working?

Also, nowhere does that article say that Russian troops would be here controlling crowds during anything. The article uses a quote in English from a Russian press release and then argues semantics about what the word "provision" means, as if Russians are experts at English. Hell, it even quotes the dictionary definition of the word. Does that mean Russians actually looked it up and comprehended? Not hardly.

phreddy wrote:

Baywolfe wrote:

Even if this particular item were true, all you're really objecting to is that the US is going to use Contractors for crowd control.  Isn't that the American/Capitalist way?  I'm sure they're very well trained an disciplined.

A.  Contractors?  The Russian military? You're kidding, right?
B.  Well trained?  I'm sure the Russians will be well trained in our language, laws, constitutional protections, etc.
C.  It is unlawful, (actually unconstitutional I think) to use the military for domestic police activities (except by declaring martial law or calling out the National Guard.)  Using a foreign military to control domestic crowds is unreal.

I'm not sure I believe the Russians will be helping our government with domestic riots, demonstrations, etc, but the damned article the Russians put out sure sounds as though they will.  I hope we see more on this.  Even if this is simply an agreement to help out during disasters, why do we need Russian military?  Don't we have enough FEMA personnel, not to mention our own National Guard and military?

I'm sure they have as much knowledge about America as we have about the Middle East countries we're invading/protecting.  Maybe more.

It's unlawful to use OUR military not foreign contractors.

It's a global world now Phred. Get your thumb out of your ass and move on up to the 21st Century.

There's always the possibility that Russian and American troops will work together if an incident occurs that affects both Alaska and the Russian territory that Sarah Palin can see from her kitchen window.  Sarah might aim her ass at Russia and release a huge toxic cloud, which could make it necessary for the two countries to work together in order to deal with the fallout.

Why dopes everyone think this is so far fetched when we use our US troops for "security" at all kinds of events in dozens of other countries, world-wide? Sauce for the Goose, anyone? Or do people still think that the US is the uncontested heavyweight champion of the world?