#151 2013-04-01 10:13:53
Yeah, you gotta really watch out for those online news sites eating your bread.
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#152 2013-04-01 18:55:11
Emmeran wrote:
What was that shit about camels and needles?
It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle if you run it through the liquidizer first.
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#153 2013-07-28 13:25:27
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#154 2013-07-29 03:16:22
Lovelock, NV, 1980. I get off work at 0700, takes half an hour to drive back to the motel ten minutes to phone in the morning report, then breakfast at the diner across the way. The paper copies of the log need to be mailed, and the Post Office is right by the Greyhound station, so why not hang around for the 0900 bus that has the one star edition of the Chron? Gotta read Herb and Tales of the City.
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#155 2013-07-29 05:50:47
It's not just the newspapers that are in trouble. TeeVee news will be right behind the newspapers in going under, because both the young and the more astute among the older population realize the "reporters" are useless wart hog tits.
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#156 2013-07-29 13:17:54
I'm thinking baby wart hogs find wart hog tits pretty darn useful.
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#157 2013-07-29 14:49:13
fnord wrote:
https://cruelery.com/uploads/13_cnn_fail.gif
It's not just the newspapers that are in trouble. TeeVee news will be right behind the newspapers in going under, because both the young and the more astute among the older population realize the "reporters" are useless wart hog tits.
The proper analogy is "Tits on a boar"
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#158 2013-08-06 05:33:03
Already mentioned by choad, but figured I'd put a link here for posterity (and there are certainly posteriors involved).
...Amazon founder Jeff Bezos today put his dosh into another tricky, long-term enterprise: a print newspaper.
The $250m cash acquisition for The Washington Post, affiliated publications, and some 2,000 employees was announced on Monday, and represents a massive bargain when compared with the $1bn Facebook paid for photo-spaffing app Instagram and its staff of 13 young employees.
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#159 2013-08-06 09:16:47
A)Thank you for referring to an article that uses the term "dosh"
B)Bezos is a strange cat with some curious ideas.
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#160 2013-08-06 16:51:16
So, did anyone pick Rupert Murdoch vs Jeff Bezos in the final round of the publishing derby?
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#161 2013-08-06 23:15:36
I'd like to remind everyone that Berkshire-Hathaway is snapping up small regional papers at an alarming rate, Bezo is a Johnny-come-lately to the game. Warren Buffet's crew has apparently figured out profitability in that sector again.
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#163 2013-08-24 04:53:46
I took a look at the Fox News website just now. Here's the headline and lead from the top story:
Showdown Looms Over Court Picks
President Obama's alleged push to stack
the bench on a key DC court has some
Republicans worried such an effort could
be used to 'rubber stamp' his agenda
long after he leaves office.
Is the fact that anybody today takes such transparent political propaganda as legitimate news a cause of newspapers dying out, or a symptom?
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#164 2013-08-24 13:29:57
Tall Paul wrote:
I took a look at the Fox News website just now. Here's the headline and lead from the top story:
Showdown Looms Over Court Picks
President Obama's alleged push to stack
the bench on a key DC court has some
Republicans worried such an effort could
be used to 'rubber stamp' his agenda
long after he leaves office.
Is the fact that anybody today takes such transparent political propaganda as legitimate news a cause of newspapers dying out, or a symptom?
It all started when they moved TV News under the umbrella of the Entertainment Division. They forgot that the airways belong to the American public and that honest, unbiased, news was a responsibility. Fast-forward to the cable/satellite/internet era, and that provision doesn't even apply anymore. Now, it's all about what gets sponsorship.
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#165 2013-08-24 18:59:01
#166 2013-08-24 20:19:33
square wrote:
Yeah, it's not like the old days when newspapers just reported objective facts without spin.
That was before my time, Square. Hell, I'm too young to remember Winky Dink so I'm glad there's at least one High Streeter old enough to remember Ben Frank's heyday. Even so I have to admit your point, partisan bullshit was the journalistic fashion back in the early days. Libelous hacks didn't have the luxury of blogs so they were stuck with publishing pamphlets. Maybe it's because I grew up in the era of Walter Cronkite when news organs could at least project an image of fairness and objectivity, when hostile reporting on the war in Viet Nam or Watergate was possible, that I wish we could learn from Benjamin Franklin Bache's legacy instead of reliving it.
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#167 2013-08-25 15:52:12
The point, which was presented obliquely, is this: The notion of a free, independent, objective media that you (and I) grew up with appears likely to have been just a brief historical anomaly and not a permanent feature, the result of a unique set of forces and conditions. Chief among these was a society invested in pluralism. Online media, which is the future, would not be very responsive to these forces even if they still existed. The low cost of establishing a web site and its reach beyond a small geographic area means that one need not try to appeal to a broad audience to be financially successful; indeed, the path to success may be to be as niche as possible and milk that narrow group for all they're worth.
Anyway, this would make a good undergraduate research paper for some kid.
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#168 2013-08-25 16:43:31
square wrote:
The point, which was presented obliquely, is this: The notion of a free, independent, objective media that you (and I) grew up with appears likely to have been just a brief historical anomaly and not a permanent feature, the result of a unique set of forces and conditions. Chief among these was a society invested in pluralism.
Also, relatively cheap technology - in this case, photo offset printing - outpaced the ability to control it.
This next bit has appeared here before.
"The first newspaper in the British American colonies, Publick Occurrences, printed in Boston in 1690, was shut down after just one issue for reporting, among other things, that the king of France had cuckolded his own son."
Differences Of Opinion - New Yorker
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#169 2013-08-25 17:21:18
square wrote:
The point, which was presented obliquely, is this: The notion of a free, independent, objective media that you (and I) grew up with appears likely to have been just a brief historical anomaly and not a permanent feature, the result of a unique set of forces and conditions. Chief among these was a society invested in pluralism. Online media, which is the future, would not be very responsive to these forces even if they still existed. The low cost of establishing a web site means that one need not try to appeal to a broad audience to be financially successful; indeed, the path to success may be to be as niche as possible and milk that narrow group for all they're worth.
Anyway, this would make a good undergraduate research paper for some kid.
Operating a 'news' organization using online media is much cheaper than building a TV station, but then again video equipment is a hell of a lot cheaper than it used to be. I have an SLR 'still' camera that can shoot 1080p HD all day long. All I really need to broadcast my own shows is an iMac and a fast internet connection, and I have that too. Financial success is a fine thing, but a society invested in pluralism is far more valuable in the end. Do we want real news, or a Nixon administration flunky's fear porn? I the end I suppose it boils down to the fact that paying a reporter to go to a war zone (city hall, for example) costs more than paying for some guy in pajamas pulling propaganda out of his ass.
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#170 2013-08-25 20:35:38
I think if journalism hadn't lost it's guts and become journaltainment it might have had a chance at survival. 
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#171 2013-08-25 21:05:03
whosasailorthen wrote:
I think if journalism hadn't lost it's guts and become journaltainment it might have had a chance at survival.
Some crap McFadden cartoon implying that Obama is to blame for the demise of the forth estate
Say what you want about Obama, he never hired a $200-an-hour rentboy just for his soft balls.
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#172 2013-08-29 19:31:15
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#174 2013-09-04 03:09:59
Newspapers should have no friends. Joseph Pulitzer
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#175 2013-09-04 03:12:01
choad wrote:
Newspapers should have no friends. Joseph Pulitzer
Dude, it's 3am - go to bed.
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#176 2013-09-04 03:53:13
Emmeran wrote:
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#177 2013-09-04 04:03:11
Emmeran wrote:
choad wrote:
Newspapers should have no friends. Joseph Pulitzer
Dude, it's 3am - go to bed.
Tropical depression blew out my system clock yesterday. Can not stay awake, same time every year. Clear and cold now, beautiful night.
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#178 2013-09-13 00:45:36
Warren Buffet, you da man, go boy go, we don't need no stinking journalists.
(on the other hand perhaps the industry did get a little fat and sassy)
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#179 2013-09-19 02:33:50
#180 2013-09-19 12:40:29
I agree/disagree with this stance.
It's all about reporting accurately, including, stating the affiliation of anybody quoted on TV. Too often, they just report as if everything is 100% true.
Ultimately however, it's not the news' or POTUS' fault. It's the public who sit and get spoon fed whatever political slant appeals to them. Like only listening to the right-wing polls that said that Mitt Romney was going to win the election when there were TONS of independent polls indicating that just wasn't true.
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#181 2013-10-06 02:44:24
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#183 2013-10-11 01:10:59
Ah huh. You wade to the bottom of a tl;dr story to learn nothing focuses resolve like the prospect of lifetime employment. Rusbridger has more authority than most editors, and more immunity from its consequences. The Scott Trust’s founding document underwriting the Guardian's chronic losses is specific; an editor will face dismissal only “in extreme circumstances.”
Employees think of the Guardian “like a family newspaper,” [Rusbridger] said. “There have been only ten editors of the Guardian since 1821."
“It was a little like watching two Queen’s Counsel barristers in a head-to-head struggle, two very polished performers engaging each other,” Johnson, the [Guardian's] deputy editor, said.
Fuck editors. The only real hero here is Snowden.
Want to set the world on fire? Do it yourself.
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#184 2013-10-21 01:05:22
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#188 2014-02-27 00:47:39
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#189 2014-02-27 05:31:27
Herb Caen.
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#190 2014-03-01 00:48:07
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#191 2014-03-01 01:27:42
fnord wrote:
Oh, Lawsuit time.
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#192 2014-03-10 05:06:43
#193 2014-03-10 06:03:28
Emmeran wrote:
Trade press publications began pushing into this territory in the mid 80s with what they called 'Advertorials', but this is an entirely new level of shilling for dollars. They'll eat shit and die exhausting their last shred of credibility, and good riddance.
Something better will replace them.
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#194 2014-03-19 00:46:16
I am hardly the only stick-in-the-mud to observe that the impending takeover of Crimea, a precise piece of geopolitical logistics and confrontation with a full menu of international implications – journalistic red meat – has been blown away by a story with no evident meaning, other than the likely bleak fate of most onboard.
Flight 370 Story is the New Anti-Journalism — All Data, No Real Facts, Endless Theories
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#195 2014-03-19 11:03:50
#196 2014-03-19 11:33:23
Dmtdust wrote:
A little automation will help with that itch.
http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-26614051
Doesn't that one also belong in the Robogeddon thread?
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#197 2014-03-19 11:52:35
You can cross post but it belongs here as well.
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#198 2014-04-01 21:20:03
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#200 2014-04-03 18:35:13
Based on the quality of both reporting and writing skills in today's "Digital media", I'd say we are kinda fucked. At least for a while. My 6 year old son can produce better written materials, and my 10 year old daughter has show more inquisitive intuition for information that any 10 digi-drones combined.
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