#1 2017-06-22 07:20:49
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#2 2017-06-22 19:55:45
Just got an "R" rating, so I'm interested again. Word was they were aiming for "PG-13" and fuck that nonsense.
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#3 2017-06-23 10:39:55
George Orr wrote:
Just got an "R" rating, so I'm interested again. Word was they were aiming for "PG-13" and fuck that nonsense.
The story in the novel was all about talismans and rituals to defeat Pennywise. The original made for TV mini-series kept a few of them like Bill Denbrough using his inhaler to get away from Pennywise but omitted the part where 12 year old Beverly Marsh suggests the only way they were getting out of the trap was for all the boys to have sex with her, which they do. So, don't know if they're going to add that back in or if it's just going to be scare porn that merits the "R".
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#4 2017-06-24 15:09:28
Baywolfe wrote:
George Orr wrote:
Just got an "R" rating, so I'm interested again. Word was they were aiming for "PG-13" and fuck that nonsense.
The story in the novel was all about talismans and rituals to defeat Pennywise. The original made for TV mini-series kept a few of them like Bill Denbrough using his inhaler to get away from Pennywise but omitted the part where 12 year old Beverly Marsh suggests the only way they were getting out of the trap was for all the boys to have sex with her, which they do. So, don't know if they're going to add that back in or if it's just going to be scare porn that merits the "R".
Oh, hell NO, the middle-school gang-bang scene will not be anywhere near this movie. Even King has admitted he regrets putting it in the novel.
No, the "R" will be for violence and scary shit. It remains to be seen if the film will actually BE scary.
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#5 2017-06-25 21:30:36
Well, Alexander Skarsgård is a scary fucking individual all by himself, so... What killed the made for TV movie is the special effects were spectacularly shitty. When we finally see IT in his true alien form, it looks like they went to the novelty store, bought a big black plastic spider and put Christmas lights on his butt. Imagine what the "deadlights" could look like now with just the sfx budget level of Doctor Who, much less a major motion picture?
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#6 2017-06-25 22:37:30
Believe it or not I have a hardcover first edition of all his other books but somehow this is not in my collection. I think I often dismiss it for it's Dean Koontz type faults, i.e. starting with great power but limping into an entirely stupid conclusion.
This novel only truly works with a Dark Tower tie in which doesn't currently exist; otherwise it's a Koontz competing rush job hack after the first half of the story. Of course new "inter-mediating" novels have now been published tying in his half-assed stories to the Dark Tower and giving them some background resonance however that hasn't happened for this story yet.
IT needs a re-write and an ending that shows some balls... ...for fuck's sake blowing up the town for the lack of a better idea is really something even I could do.
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#7 2017-06-25 23:39:48
Oh, but IT does have Dark Tower connections.
Out of all of King's novels, It might have the most interesting Dark Tower references. Ritchie says that the evil residing in Derry arrived in primordial times, from "[o]utside everything." Another level of the Tower, perhaps, or todash space? It's possible that It is related to the Great Old Ones, and she — yes, It is female — might even be related to Dandelo, a minor villain in The Dark Tower.
Another prominent scene features a revelation by Stan, one of the Losers' Club's more unfortunate members, in which he realizes that another universe may exist, where "there might grow roses which sing." The Dark Tower is surrounded by singing roses, and, in one of the many versions of NYC, the Tower takes the form of a beautiful, singing rose that grows alone in an empty lot.
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#8 2017-06-26 00:18:27
Emmeran wrote:
IT needs a re-write and an ending that shows some balls... ...for fuck's sake blowing up the town for the lack of a better idea is really something even I could do.
Sounds like you have given that idea some thought.
My oldest friend was a jarhead corporal in the 70s and whenever he stops by, weather permitting, we sit with a view and a breeze off the North Atlantic across the street... obstructed, for the most part, by a neighbor's fence planted not long ago. No reason for it, blocks nothing, just standard issue massholism. So each visit eventually includes another novel scheme to drop that fence in the drink for the next tide. He calls it Marine problem solving.
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#10 2017-08-25 19:30:43
Emmeran wrote:
Here's what I want to happen: I want an unknowing, innocent theatergoer to walk into the lobby for the showing right after this one. I want that theatergoer to find him/herself in the lobby surrounded by the audience pouring out of this showing...
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