#1 2008-02-28 20:49:07

The last time the sun was this inactive, Earth suffered the Little Ice Age that lasted about five centuries and ended in 1850

For the contiguous United States, the average temperature was 30.5°F (-0.83°C) for January, which was 0.3°F (0.2°C) below the 20th century mean and the 49th coolest January on record, based on preliminary data

Global warming homework assignment:  Fill a glass with ice to the rim, then gently add water until the glass is almost over-flowing.  Step back and wait for the oceans to rise and flood the over-populated coastal areas and lowlands.  Hold your breath for extra-credit.

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#2 2008-02-28 21:49:47

Emmeran wrote:

The last time the sun was this inactive, Earth suffered the Little Ice Age that lasted about five centuries and ended in 1850

For the contiguous United States, the average temperature was 30.5°F (-0.83°C) for January, which was 0.3°F (0.2°C) below the 20th century mean and the 49th coolest January on record, based on preliminary data

Global warming homework assignment:  Fill a glass with ice to the rim, then gently add water until the glass is almost over-flowing.  Step back and wait for the oceans to rise and flood the over-populated coastal areas and lowlands.  Hold your breath for extra-credit.

Dude, please do us all a favor and get a 5th grade science book.  I hate to call you an idiot, but.....

Anyway, if you have a glass of water with ice, the ice is already occupying space in the water, so when the ice melts, it does not cause the level to rise significantly because the ice is floating and has already displaced its weight in the water.  Now unless you are assuming that the land masses are simply floating in water, which they are not, your premise is flawed.  Since the land masses are not floating in water, the melting polar ice caps would have a significant impact on the coasts and lowlands.

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#3 2008-02-28 22:19:36

headkicker_girl wrote:

Dude, please do us all a favor and get a 5th grade science book.  I hate to call you an idiot, but.....

Anyway, if you have a glass of water with ice, the ice is already occupying space in the water, so when the ice melts, it does not cause the level to rise significantly because the ice is floating and has already displaced its weight in the water.  Now unless you are assuming that the land masses are simply floating in water, which they are not, your premise is flawed.  Since the land masses are not floating in water, the melting polar ice caps would have a significant impact on the coasts and lowlands.

I have trouble believing that yourself, as a lawyer, cannot manage to recognize sarcasm when it has been presented so boldly. 

Your silliness disappoints me.

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#4 2008-02-28 22:29:04

Emmeran wrote:

The last time the sun was this inactive, Earth suffered the Little Ice Age that lasted about five centuries and ended in 1850

For the contiguous United States, the average temperature was 30.5°F (-0.83°C) for January, which was 0.3°F (0.2°C) below the 20th century mean and the 49th coolest January on record, based on preliminary data

Global warming homework assignment:  Fill a glass with ice to the rim, then gently add water until the glass is almost over-flowing.  Step back and wait for the oceans to rise and flood the over-populated coastal areas and lowlands.  Hold your breath for extra-credit.

To explain why nobody is quaking in their anything over this (unles sthey're just cold), first go here:  http://gristmill.grist.org/skeptics, and look fo rthe section called "It's cold today in Wagga Wagga.'

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#5 2008-02-28 22:35:09

Emmeran wrote:

I have trouble believing that yourself, as a lawyer, cannot manage to recognize sarcasm when it has been presented so boldly. 

Your silliness disappoints me.

Sorry, I must have had you confused with Fortinbras, who would have posted it without a trace of irony.

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#6 2008-02-28 22:46:05

headkicker_girl wrote:

Emmeran wrote:

I have trouble believing that yourself, as a lawyer, cannot manage to recognize sarcasm when it has been presented so boldly. 

Your silliness disappoints me.

Sorry, I must have had you confused with Fortinbras, who would have posted it without a trace of irony.

I'm thunderstruck, has not my derision of all things politico been obvious enough to this point?  Isn't it enough that I religiously belittle corporate media?  What must a fat, bald guy do around here?

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#7 2008-02-29 00:54:17

Emmeran wrote:

What must a fat, bald guy do around here?

Have sex with Lurker.

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#8 2008-02-29 10:10:46

Taint wrote:

Emmeran wrote:

What must a fat, bald guy do around here?

Have sex with Lurker.

Who can't live but a few blocks away from you. Bang on his door, help him replace the defunct hard drive he claims is keeping him away from his dearest friends.

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#9 2008-02-29 12:46:30

This is as close as I care to get, thank you.

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#10 2008-02-29 13:28:00

Emmeran wrote:

I'm thunderstruck, has not my derision of all things politico been obvious enough to this point?  Isn't it enough that I religiously belittle corporate media?  What must a fat, bald guy do around here?

You could send me a cock shot so I'd actually remember you.  headkicker4u2@yahoo.com.  Photo must include some reference to highstreet.

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#11 2008-02-29 13:46:09

Emmeran wrote:

headkicker_girl wrote:

Dude, please do us all a favor and get a 5th grade science book.  I hate to call you an idiot, but.....

Anyway, if you have a glass of water with ice, the ice is already occupying space in the water, so when the ice melts, it does not cause the level to rise significantly because the ice is floating and has already displaced its weight in the water.  Now unless you are assuming that the land masses are simply floating in water, which they are not, your premise is flawed.  Since the land masses are not floating in water, the melting polar ice caps would have a significant impact on the coasts and lowlands.

I have trouble believing that yourself, as a lawyer, cannot manage to recognize sarcasm when it has been presented so boldly. 

Your silliness disappoints me.

Ya know, I have been having the same problems with sarcasm not being recognized here as of late.( see MSG's prescription drug thread)

I wonder if we could have a workshop of sorts to help us identify sarcasm and irony. It could help us all enjoy ourselves more.

RT???

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#12 2008-02-29 14:17:57

You're in luck! I'm in the midst of organizing the first in a series of workshops titled "Getting in Touch With the Sarcastic Inner Child". Over a period 37 weeks, we'll focus on learning to love our playful, sarcastic inner children using sacred healing techniques, sacred chanting, drum circles, smudging, giving ourselves permission to win, and my special Inner Universal Tapioca Channeling Strategiesİ uniquely designed for individual chakra realignment and teeth whitening. For only $142.95 per session (all major credit cards accepted) you'll also receive a limited edition High-Street Yoga and Nap Mat, as well as an autographed photo of Rcade, suitable for framing.

Act now!

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#13 2008-02-29 14:33:35

Taint wrote:

suitable for framing

Would not want you to feel pressured or anything, but,  I want a piece of the profits.  I can make sure nothing happens that is not suppose to.

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#14 2008-02-29 14:35:27

Taint wrote:

You're in luck! I'm in the midst of organizing the first in a series of workshops titled "Getting in Touch With the Sarcastic Inner Child". Over a period 37 weeks, we'll focus on learning to love our playful, sarcastic inner children using sacred healing techniques, sacred chanting, drum circles, smudging, giving ourselves permission to win, and my special Inner Universal Tapioca Channeling Strategiesİ uniquely designed for individual chakra realignment and teeth whitening. For only $142.95 per session (all major credit cards accepted) you'll also receive a limited edition High-Street Yoga and Nap Mat, as well as an autographed photo of Rcade, suitable for framing.

Act now!

I had my chakra removed after a bicycle accident when I was twelve.  Can I still take the class?

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#15 2008-02-29 14:39:30

headkicker wrote:

Since the land masses are not floating in water, the melting polar ice caps would have a significant impact on the coasts and lowlands.

Sorry to have to give you a geography lessen Kicker (and Emmeran too if he really was being sarcastic0, but there is no land under the North Pole. 

I wonder how those Vikings got the Greenland ice to melt when they farmed large valleys that are currently covered with ice.  Must have been all that carbon from their funeral pyres.

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#16 2008-02-29 14:47:49

phreddy wrote:

I wonder how those Vikings got the Greenland ice to melt when they farmed large valleys

The sagas say it was a time when the gods were appeased.

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#17 2008-02-29 14:48:20

Taint wrote:

For only $142.95 per session (all major credit cards accepted) you'll also receive a limited edition High-Street Yoga and Nap Mat, as well as an autographed photo of Rcade, suitable for framing.

Act now!

You're scaring me, Taint. That rant was way too glib.

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#18 2008-02-29 14:53:22

MSG Tripps wrote:

phreddy wrote:

I wonder how those Vikings got the Greenland ice to melt when they farmed large valleys

The sagas say it was a time when the gods were appeased.

Well, happy gods seem to be as good a cause for global warming as the dumbshit theories I've heard.

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#19 2008-02-29 14:55:38

Much of North America was also hit by the heaviest snowfall since the 1960s.

New England got gyped again.  It's warmer than usual here and no snow worth noting. None of which proves squat. The climate models all predict wild temperature swings and highlight summer temperatures warm enough to melt accumulated snow pack, rather than winter cold.

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#20 2008-02-29 14:56:09

phreddy wrote:

Well, happy gods seem to be as good a cause for global warming as the dumbshit theories I've heard.

Exactly.

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#21 2008-02-29 15:00:22

choad wrote:

The climate models all predict wild temperature swings and highlight summer temperatures warm enough to melt accumulated snow pack, rather than winter cold.

Which is different from the past how?

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#22 2008-02-29 15:17:26

phreddy wrote:

headkicker wrote:

Since the land masses are not floating in water, the melting polar ice caps would have a significant impact on the coasts and lowlands.

Sorry to have to give you a geography lessen Kicker (and Emmeran too if he really was being sarcastic0, but there is no land under the North Pole. 

I wonder how those Vikings got the Greenland ice to melt when they farmed large valleys that are currently covered with ice.  Must have been all that carbon from their funeral pyres.

I hope you're being sarcastic, otherwise I'd have to call you an idiot too.  Obviously, there's no land under the north pole.  However, the last time I looked at a globe I did notice that most of the earth is covered in water.  Water that is no longer trapped in ice becomes water that is part of the sea, leading to rising sea levels.  Thus, it's irrelevant that there's no land under the north pole.

Also, what evidence do you have of these lush, Viking farms?  Their own recorded history?  You do realize that they also believe they battled monsters....

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#23 2008-02-29 15:19:34

headkicker_girl wrote:

Emmeran wrote:

I'm thunderstruck, has not my derision of all things politico been obvious enough to this point?  Isn't it enough that I religiously belittle corporate media?  What must a fat, bald guy do around here?

You could send me a cock shot so I'd actually remember you.  headkicker4u2@yahoo.com.  Photo must include some reference to highstreet.

BWAHAHAHAH.  Hi HKG!

RT

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#24 2008-02-29 15:22:39

headkicker_girl wrote:

they battled monsters....

And monsters they were.

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#25 2008-02-29 15:23:51

headkicker_girl wrote:

Water that is no longer trapped in ice becomes water that is part of the sea, leading to rising sea levels.

You do realize that water expands when it freezes and contracts when melted, you could melt the entire polar ice cap and the sea levels wouldn't change - that was the point of the homework assignment.

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#26 2008-02-29 15:25:33

Emmeran wrote:

headkicker_girl wrote:

Water that is no longer trapped in ice becomes water that is part of the sea, leading to rising sea levels.

You do realize that water expands when it freezes and contracts when melted, you could melt the entire polar ice cap and the sea levels wouldn't change - that was the point of the homework assignment.

Sure, if you only melt the North Pole and leave the rest of the ice alone...

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#27 2008-02-29 15:31:01

tojo2000 wrote:

I had my chakra removed after a bicycle accident when I was twelve.  Can I still take the class?

Hell, I'll sell you a new chakra and throw in an autographed photo of Choad, to boot.

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#28 2008-02-29 15:36:35

tojo2000 wrote:

Sure, if you only melt the North Pole and leave the rest of the ice alone...

You are correct - but that's not the hysteria.

Let me help everyone - my original post was a sarcastic commentary regarding the liberal tree-huggers adoption of conservative bible-thumper fear tactics.

Forget the weather, anyone with common sense knows that the weather will change - always has and always will.  On the same note common sense tells us that waste, pollution and dependency on finite foreign resources is a very bad thing.

So kiddies the lesson we've learned here today is to re-use, recycle and always pack a coat.

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#29 2008-02-29 17:08:53

headkicker_girl wrote:

Also, what evidence do you have of these lush, Viking farms?  Their own recorded history?  You do realize that they also believe they battled monsters....

Sorry, I thought this was common knowledge.  Here's a story about the Greenland Vikings from the University of Alberta. They're only Canucks, but I'm pretty sure they're beyond believing in dragons.

Here's another story about the bullshit behind the anthropogenic global warming theory, if you're open minded enough to actually read it.

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#30 2008-02-29 17:43:32

phreddy wrote:

headkicker_girl wrote:

Also, what evidence do you have of these lush, Viking farms?  Their own recorded history?  You do realize that they also believe they battled monsters....

Sorry, I thought this was common knowledge.  Here's a story about the Greenland Vikings from the University of Alberta. They're only Canucks, but I'm pretty sure they're beyond believing in dragons.

Here's another story about the bullshit behind the anthropogenic global warming theory, if you're open minded enough to actually read it.

Actually, I was being cheeky.  I knew about the "warm period" in northern Europe.  During that same time Iceland had trees and was farmed.

As for the second assertion, I don't think either side can say for sure whether global warming has had any impact or not, as it's too soon to tell.  However, living in a large city with plenty of air pollution, I would welcome any acts that improved air quality, even if it's based on allegedly "junk science."

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#31 2008-02-29 21:39:46

headkicker_girl wrote:

phreddy wrote:

headkicker_girl wrote:

Also, what evidence do you have of these lush, Viking farms?  Their own recorded history?  You do realize that they also believe they battled monsters....

Sorry, I thought this was common knowledge.  Here's a story about the Greenland Vikings from the University of Alberta. They're only Canucks, but I'm pretty sure they're beyond believing in dragons.

Here's another story about the bullshit behind the anthropogenic global warming theory, if you're open minded enough to actually read it.

Actually, I was being cheeky.  I knew about the "warm period" in northern Europe.  During that same time Iceland had trees and was farmed.

As for the second assertion, I don't think either side can say for sure whether global warming has had any impact or not, as it's too soon to tell.  However, living in a large city with plenty of air pollution, I would welcome any acts that improved air quality, even if it's based on allegedly "junk science."

It is beyond scientific dispute that the global climate change/warming/whatever you want to call it has had and is having effects.  The only question is the extent to which we have affected it ourselves and whether or not we can change anything.  Even Phreddy's link doesn't deny this.  It does deny several things that I think the author should know better about, but go back to that link I showed you if you want to see the scientific data on why climatologists (not politicians) agree that CO2's correlation is not mere coincidence and water vapor doesn't explain the changes, and why the existence of a warm period in Greenland doesn't blow anybody's mind. 

The sad thing is that there are so many self-styled "environmentalists" who have taken up the cause, probably with good intentions, who spout nonsense, but even worse are people like this guy who will go on and on, but most of his article is tilting at windmills.  He's fighting more of what the uneducated spout than what the scientific consensus is.  The problem is that, like many things, it's more complicated than any sound byte.  He's right that it needs to be scrutinized heavily.  He's right that there's no consensus on how much we've done to exacerbate it.  It just sucks that this will become masturbatory fodder for people who just don't want to change anything.

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#32 2008-03-01 00:47:22

tojo2000 wrote:

so many self-styled "environmentalists" who have taken up the cause

http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t67/sobercore/drink_up_bitches.jpg

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#33 2008-03-01 00:50:28

Emmeran wrote:

tojo2000 wrote:

so many self-styled "environmentalists" who have taken up the cause

http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t67/ … itches.jpg

Nice!  I'm taking that to work.

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#34 2008-03-01 14:17:53

Hey, what happened to Taint's suggestion about fucking me?  Emmy?

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#35 2008-03-02 20:58:32

Lurker wrote:

Hey, what happened to Taint's suggestion about fucking me?  Emmy?

I've told you time and again . . . come see me when you're post-op and we can discuss

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#36 2008-03-02 21:10:23

Emmeran wrote:

Lurker wrote:

Hey, what happened to Taint's suggestion about fucking me?  Emmy?

I've told you time and again . . . come see me when you're post-op and we can discuss

Sorry dude, no organ-gami for moi....

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#37 2008-03-02 21:28:51

Lurker wrote:

Sorry dude, no organ-gami for moi....

Organ-gami bwahaahaa . . . . I see an awesome banner in this somewhere

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#38 2008-03-02 21:35:04

Emmeran wrote:

Lurker wrote:

Sorry dude, no organ-gami for moi....

Organ-gami bwahaahaa . . . . I see an awesome banner in this somewhere

yeah, it will un-fold....

pre-organ-gami....

http://img239.imageshack.us/img239/3916/dinany2.jpg

post organ-gami....

http://img101.imageshack.us/img101/6451/amandawg8.jpg

amazingly, I'm not having any luck finding pics of some manufactured cooze...

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