#2 2008-03-10 17:53:51

The amazing thing is that the NY Times broke the story.... go figure.  They're usually whipping the Rebulicans, not the Dems.

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#3 2008-03-10 17:58:18

Sailor wrote:

They're usually whipping the Rebulicans, not the Dems.

It was obviously a stinking pile of shit a little too big for them to cover up.

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#4 2008-03-10 18:37:02

This is a typical Democrat scandal.  Republicans screw the taxpayers, Democrats screw prostitutes or other willing partners.

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#5 2008-03-10 19:06:14

fnord wrote:

This is a typical Democrat scandal.  Republicans screw the taxpayers, Democrats screw prostitutes or other willing partners.

Oh but the sweetest part is he was such a fucking asshole liberal partisan and a bulldog about these very types of crimes.

Spitzer had been expected to testify to the state Public Integrity Commission he had created to answer for his role in the scandal, in which his aides were accused of misusing state police to compile travel records to embarrass Senate Republican leader Joseph Bruno.

And there's this:

In 2004, he was part of an investigation of an escort service in New York City that resulted in the arrest of 18 people on charges of promoting prostitution and related charges.

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#6 2008-03-10 21:01:01

come on, he was only prosecuting these cases hoping to be offered a "bribe" or at least a discount.  I'm sure his wife was noticing the debits...he's a fucking sleaze ball, they all are.... ok taint, here's your cue....pot...kettle?

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#7 2008-03-10 23:17:24

Presenting Silda Wall Spitzer.  I wonder what she wouldn't do that led him to pay-for-play?

http://www.wheresthepaper.org/NYT061110HerNextJobFirstLadyOfNY_files/image002.jpg

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#8 2008-03-10 23:26:38

sigmoid freud wrote:

Presenting Silda Wall Spitzer.  I wonder what she wouldn't do that led him to pay-for-play?

http://www.wheresthepaper.org/NYT061110 … age002.jpg

Well, whatever it was, it sounds like he wanted it bareback... from the FBI files, there's this, below... start reading at "85.":

http://www.thesmokinggun.com/graphics/art4/0310082spitzer5.gif

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#9 2008-03-10 23:39:47

please, the guy is completely vanilla.  With a wife like that....bet ya anything, she's got escorts on the side....

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#10 2008-03-11 00:32:25

well mow we know the Guv's porn name is "George Fox." I rarely think a man (or woman) should take the fall for their bedroom antics, but I make an exception for hypocrites. And this guy's naked ambition as a mad dog AG prosecuting call girl rings makes him a first class swine.

Not to mention this guiy was a bigger fool then Clinton to think these elaborate detailed and direct transactions with such a public agency wouldn't be exposed. Spitzer made his living working wiretaps and rolling informants on white collar criminal enterprises like this.

After reading the partially redacted files I laughed when he was called a difficult client to handle  because he wanted some sort of unsafe sex acts the girls have trouble turning down. Especially on the night before Valentines day, no doubt to tide him through having to do his duty with his wife the next day.

Heck for the money he is willing and able to put out I could introduce him to some professionals who, with proper client screening, specialize in various kinds of "unsafe" sex acts.

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#11 2008-03-11 00:55:00

Lurker wrote:

come on, he was only prosecuting these cases hoping to be offered a "bribe" or at least a discount.  I'm sure his wife was noticing the debits...he's a fucking sleaze ball, they all are.... ok taint, here's your cue....pot...kettle?

Nah she would likely never notice it unless she was such a shrew she had his every move watched. While I imagine that for political reasons the Spitzers do not engage in  ostentatious displays of public spending, 4 hour bookings with call girls at $800/hr or so is chump change for him. He inherits a vast Manhatten real estate fortune previously valued at over half a billion and with the recent run up in value of high end residential buildings his father built and owned who knows what it is worth now.

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#12 2008-03-11 01:15:57

I love it when Phweddski gets excited.  Finally A Demobot caught!  Sorry tho Phweddski, no toilet antics with airline passengers, senate pages, but with a real professional...

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#13 2008-03-11 01:34:48

If this turns out to be true, the Guv is a bigger fool then even I believed. What a dumbass. All that legal family money he has to spend and he gets tripped up by the IRS for excessive bank transfers to a call girl front business? And the ring wasn't under investigation until the IRS tipped the feds off about the Guv's antics?

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#14 2008-03-11 07:16:23

Since Phred and wast have some sort of allergic reaction to the NYT, here is a source they may feel more at home with.  Looks like he's gone, and may spend some time at Rikers.

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#15 2008-03-11 18:10:15

Something smells about the Spitzer case. My family lawyers and some legal pundits are in disbelief that the feds are telling the truth about his case. There is no doubt he was a fool and opened himself up to some sort of blackmail or protection favors by seeing hookers. But the amounts of legal  cash he is accused of transferring between personel accounts amounts to no more than $15k. And payments to the escorts agency were not more than $3000 to $5000. at a time. It is scary to think that the IRS computer programs would trigger an investigation of patriot act required bank reporting of such small cash transfers amongst a person's bank accounts and cash withdrawls. Heck, Billy Bob can barely find a decent used Bass boat for that much anymore.

And while there is a legit public interest in ensuring that Government officials are not involved in bribes, kickbacks or illegal campaign contributions, is the IRS regularly in the habit of going on fishing expeditions like this for such small change?

While they may procede to prosecute because like perjury in high profile cases, they have to make an example Such small transaction would not generally result in a structuring charge alone. Nor were federal structuring laws designed to ferret out husbands hiding from wives monies spent on hookers.

One possible explanation is that the feds are spinning the truth about how Spitzer's antics were discovered . Not an unusual practice for the DOJ when they experience a press leak before they were ready to procede with the case.

I hope so because the circumstances they describe are a rather intrusive example of Big Brother's expanded ability to scrutinize citizens common financial activities. Something pushed for under the patriot act.that does not apply to terrorism.

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#16 2008-03-11 19:04:15

fnord wrote:

This is a typical Democrat scandal.  Republicans screw the taxpayers, Democrats screw prostitutes or other willing partners.

How do you know the tax status of people who visit the airport bathrooms?

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#17 2008-03-11 19:09:08

Oh, and just for good measure:


Spitzer?  I hardly knew her!

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#18 2008-03-11 19:10:00

ooooooh I love a conspiracy!


http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum … 518281/pg1
"New York Governor Destroyed Over Threat To Probe 9/11 Attacks"



March 11, 2008
New York Governor Destroyed Over Threat To Probe 9/11 Attacks

Reports consuming the US propaganda media organs and political elite
today are centering upon the charges leveled against the Governor of New
York, Eliot Spitzer[pictured top left], and who is said to have paid for
the services of a high priced prostitute.

FSB reports circulating in the Kremlin today, however, point to a much
more sinister effort behind the toppling of Governor Spitzer as he had
just begun a new probe into Larry Silverstein, the owner of the World
Trade Center brought down in the September 11, 2001 attacks upon the US,
and the Bush Families Carlyle Group.

The focus of Governor Spitzer's investigation, these reports state,
revolve around the growing crisis embroiling the Carlyle Group as it
nears total collapse and is facing insolvency due to Larry Silverstone's
withdrawal of over $14 billion from the embattled groups coffers, and
which could see the loss to New York States already troubled massive
pension fund of over $10 billion.

Governor Spitzer has long battled with the former comptroller for New
York States Pension Fund, Alan G. Hevesi, who holds duel
Israeli-American citizenship, and prompted a US Federal Probe that
charged Comptroller Hevesi of using the over $100 billion of funds
entrusted to him for the personal benefit of his friends and family, and
to which Mr. Hevesi pled guilty for and paid a $5,000 fine.

Prior to his taking office as New York States Governor, these reports
continue, Mr. Spitzer, as a prosecutor, had long targeted the United
States Banking System for their vast theft of money from the American
people, and had won billions in judgments against Bear Stearns, Credit
Suisse First Boston, Deutsche Bank, Goldman Sachs, J.P. Morgan Chase,
Lehman Brothers, Merrill Lynch, Morgan Stanley, Salomon Smith Barney and
UBS Warburg.

It is more than interesting to note, too, that these are the exact same
International Banking Giants who are now reeling under the Global
assault against them, with Bear Stearns becoming the latest victim, and
as we can read as reported by Britain's Independent News Service:

"Panic swept the credit markets on reports of an insolvency crunch at
both the US investment bank Bear Stearns and the mortgage giant Fannie
Mae, triggering a dramatic surge in default insurance and rumours of yet
another emergency rate cut by the US Federal Reserve."

As Governor Spitzer becomes yet another victim to vast power of the
West's war, political and media elite assault against him, and by their
introduction of sex charges against him, as they have done to so many of
their adversaries in order to destroy their credibility, the truest
warnings of these events to the American people will no doubt be lost,
again.

And, with the most dangerous of these warnings coming from the World's
richest man, Warren Buffet, and as we can read as reported by the Market
Watch News Service in their article titled "Buffett and Gross warn: $516
trillion bubble is a disaster waiting to happen", and which says:

"In short, despite Buffett's clear warnings, a massive new derivatives
bubble is driving the domestic and global economies, a bubble that
continues growing today parallel with the subprime-credit meltdown
triggering a bear-recession.

Data on the five-fold growth of derivatives to $516 trillion in five
years comes from the most recent survey by the Bank of International
Settlements, the world's clearinghouse for central banks in Basel,
Switzerland. The BIS is like the cashier's window at a racetrack or
casino, where you'd place a bet or cash in chips, except on a massive
scale: BIS is where the U.S. settles trade imbalances with Saudi Arabia
for all that oil we guzzle and gives China IOUs for the tainted drugs
and lead-based toys we buy."

There used to be a time when warnings were prudent to be given to the
American people so  that they could, in some small measure, protect
themselves, but, and sadly, those times are now gone as these people
have nearly completed their descent into the abyss of total slavery to
their masters with virtually no knowledge of the horrific future that
lies before them.

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#19 2008-03-11 19:59:07

They should indict him for that nose alone.....


Tojo wrote:

Oh, and just for good measure:


Spitzer?  I hardly knew her!

HAH!  Where have you been young man?

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#20 2008-03-11 20:34:18

Working and sleeping, eating, and then working again.  Then I go to work.

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#21 2008-03-11 20:36:12

Well, that's just as it should be.  We need more industrious young folk....

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#22 2008-03-11 21:09:12

Lurker wrote:

Well, that's just as it should be.  We need more industrious young folk....

Thank you for that.  I think I'm young, but ever since the baristas at Starbucks have started calling me "Sir" I've started to doubt it.

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#23 2008-03-11 21:39:11

tojo2000 wrote:

Lurker wrote:

Well, that's just as it should be.  We need more industrious young folk....

Thank you for that.  I think I'm young, but ever since the baristas at Starbucks have started calling me "Sir" I've started to doubt it.

Shit, get used to it, they call me sir and I tell 'em, "no tip for you"  I never tip them anyway....

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#24 2008-03-12 01:54:13

Spitzer's future conviction under the Mann act is  the oldest, hoariest *couldn't resist* law on the books that like tax evasion, was used to throw the book at organized crime. Something smells about this case? Yes, it does, and it's his self serving hubris. It's no secret he had many, many enemies, and all are no doubt thrilled that the path has led to this. He deserves everything that's a coming to him, all night long...

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#25 2008-03-12 01:55:28

And Sidra, his wife, is hardly a bimbo. She's got a Harvard law degree, she's bright stuff and hopefully will dump this guy's ass within the week.

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#26 2008-03-12 01:58:50

Actually, Im surprised that nobody's challenged the constitutionality of the Mann Act.  It only applies to transporting women over state lines for immoral purposes.  So if Spitzer had transported a gayboy over state lines, he'd be free as a bird.  Sounds like it's patently discriminatory, and if he's got any sharp tools left in that legal head of his, he'll fight it on that basis.

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#27 2008-03-12 02:28:46

tojo2000 wrote:

I think I'm young, but ever since the baristas at Starbucks have started calling me "Sir" I've started to doubt it.

I make a point of looking all around to see who they've addressed when I hear that nonsense, an old Three Stooges routine.

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#28 2008-03-12 05:35:47

They cheered on wall Street when the news was announced and all routine business ceased for a few minutes as the jubilation was spread. I am no fan of mad dog DA, and Ags. Spitzer's style was to personaly call up executives who were targets of his investigations, threaten them, express anger and use vulgarities. Much more astute politicians specifically delegate the hardball tactics and threats to aids hired for this purpose. Like LBJ did.

He often  proceded  with Financial crimes cases that might have been better served with negotiation to change wall street's questionable practices in the interest of reform. But I have little sympathy for those on wall street who were engaged in such shady practices that had become the norm. I personaly know people who lost their lfe saving and homes in the fallout from the house of cards wall street built. pension funds evaporated over night. Companies collapsed on false financial statements, employees blocked from selling devaluing shares that exeuctives and their fortunate sons had long since divested. Huge golden parachutes that reward exuctives for failure while employees are forced to suck it up and accept less and less till all the jobs are gone.

Spitzer is a hypocrite for sure in his private life, but he had the public's mandate to clean house at a time the whole Strret was teetering on the brink of a failure of confidence in the integrity of the markets. Like the S & L crises of a previous lax error of financial regulation, someone had to reign in the shennanigans, they were very bad for business.

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#30 2008-03-12 15:49:42

Rotten, you're right. What's up with this guy? He had to know they were going to follow the money. Also it doesn't help that he's butt ugly and looks like he might have major, major back hair.

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#31 2008-03-12 16:42:53

icangetyouatoe wrote:

Rotten, you're right. What's up with this guy? He had to know they were going to follow the money. Also it doesn't help that he's butt ugly and looks like he might have major, major back hair.

He should have had some of it transplanted to his head.

As a side note, whatever happened to the traditional rich guy putting up his girlfriend in a nice apartment and buying her silence?

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#32 2008-03-12 17:16:07

headkicker_girl wrote:

As a side note, whatever happened to the traditional rich guy putting up his girlfriend in a nice apartment and buying her silence?

Some men want variety and expect the madam and employees of a high priced agency to maintain silence.

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#33 2008-03-12 17:21:10

Headkicker wrote:

As a side note, whatever happened to the traditional rich guy putting up his girlfriend in a nice apartment and buying her silence?

Some men would rather have the variety.  Put up a girlfriend in an apartment and she'll expect you to visit on a regular basis.  Pretty soon you're cheating on your girlfriend.

My friends and I believe someone who Spitzer fucked over probably ratted him out.  Imagine someone in the illegal sex business who finds out through the grapevine that the guy who sent him to prison is hiring whores.  A couple of phone calls to political rivals who come up with the phony money transfer investigation, and you've got Spitzer by the balls.

Lucky New York.  Now they get Blind Melon Chitlin for Governer.

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#34 2008-03-12 17:25:11

He brought into the myth that hookers are cheaper. Heck the girlfriend in the apartment worked for Clinton for most of his carreer. He only got caught when he had to forage for fresh meat. Spitzer had only part of the equation right, the Mayflower is where JFK put up his long time squeeze for years.

New info says that on occasion the FBI would book the room across the hall watching throiugh a crack in the door and try to catch sight of the prostitute. They were foiled thogh by Spitzers tactic of ensconsing the hooker in the room before he would arrive and having her leave much later. Imagine joining up to catch mobsters, drug lords  and fight Al Quida then being assigned that duty. Well at least it is not as degrading as having to come on to politicians in bathrooms.

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#35 2008-03-13 03:13:33

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