headkicker_girl wrote:

Sitting in his room at the Four Seasons Hotel in New York this week, the Florida Republican, wearing a yellow tie with blue elephants, finally broke his silence.

"I'm trying to find my way back," Foley said in an interview with The Associated Press, his first public comments on the scandal since resigning from Congress on Sept. 29, 2006.

I'm sure the RNC is just tickled pink.

I'm still trying to get this straight in my head - so the anti-gays are gay and the pro-gays aren't?

fortinbras wrote:

Emmeran wrote:

headkicker_girl wrote:

Sitting in his room at the Four Seasons Hotel in New York this week, the Florida Republican, wearing a yellow tie with blue elephants, finally broke his silence.


I'm sure the RNC is just tickled pink.

I'm still trying to get this straight in my head - so the anti-gays are gay and the pro-gays aren't?

Yep...just like sexual harassment is a very horrible thing to all Democrats unless Bill Clinton is doing it.

YAWN.

Haggard said he became suicidal but eventually emerged with a stronger Christian faith and marriage than he'd ever had.

In other words, he'll never pay for sex with guys again but will suck off men anonymously in public bathrooms as his wife continues to feel like a failure for their lackluster relationship.

pALEPHx wrote:

Taint wrote:

In other words, he'll never pay for sex with guys again but will suck off men anonymously in public bathrooms as his wife continues to feel like a failure for their lackluster relationship.

Don't forget the crystal meth.

One should never forget the crystal meth.

ah297900 wrote:

Taint wrote:

pALEPHx wrote:

Don't forget the crystal meth.

One should never forget the crystal meth.

Aren't you guys ever wistful for those halcyon amyl nitrate days? It was a simpler time...

With good sources, one doesn't need to be wistful.

Emmeran wrote:

fortinbras wrote:

Emmeran wrote:

I'm still trying to get this straight in my head - so the anti-gays are gay and the pro-gays aren't?

Yep...just like sexual harassment is a very horrible thing to all Democrats unless Bill Clinton is doing it.

Look, just because bang'in an intern will get your ass fired in any other part of the professional world doesn't mean that rule applies to Democratic Presidents; after all - look at all the starlets he had a chance at and he chose to elevate (and penetrate) an intern.

Talk about the land of opportunity!

See, that's a misconception.  People fuck their employees all the time.  You just can't make it a condition of employment or punish them when they stop fucking you.  It's only teachers who are supposed to keep their hands off the merchandise.  Consenting adults in the workplace is not sexual harassment.

headkicker_girl wrote:

See, that's a misconception.  People fuck their employees all the time.  You just can't make it a condition of employment or punish them when they stop fucking you.  It's only teachers who are supposed to keep their hands off the merchandise.  Consenting adults in the workplace is not sexual harassment.

I'll argue that and insist that you know I'm right.  The corporate CEO simply cannot touch the intern; this has and will always end in humilitation and termination.  I'm ashamed of the left for trying to subvert that social standard.

Please identify the business community where this is accepted, I'm dying to know.

"I absolutely had no intention of performing oral sex on those virile young men. None." said the disgraced former Senator.

Emmeran wrote:

tojo2000 wrote:

I've worked at a company where the Senior VP was in a relationship with one of the salespeople.  It kind of freaked me out the first time I helped her with her computer and saw his picture hanging on her cubicle wall.  In any case, you're talking about two different things.  Many companies will proscribe stricter ethics codes than required by law because they don't want to be potentially liable if it goes awry.  Sexual harassment has different legal standards than most of the companies I've worked for.

I think you are talking about something different that I am, a salesperson having a relationship with a senior member of the staff is usually only questionable if one of them is a direct report.  Outside of that, they are allowed to be people. 

However senior staff and interns are different, the copy room boys are supposed to fuck the interns; not the C-Level staff.

That may be good corporate politics, but it doesn't figure into the definition of sexual harassment.  Yes, fucking an intern is in poor taste, but he didn't break any laws in doing so unless he coerced her and/or it negatively affected her job.  CEOs fuck secretaries all the time, and you don't get more of an imbalance in power than that.

And I want to add that in the legal world, the partners fuck the summer associates routinely.

Last edited by headkicker_girl (2008-11-13 00:33:54)

fortinbras wrote:

Yep...just like sexual harassment is a very horrible thing to all Democrats unless Bill Clinton is doing it.

But but but but but Clinton!

Play us another golden oldie, forteanblahs.

Emmeran wrote:

headkicker_girl wrote:

And I want to add that in the legal world, the partners fuck the summer associates routinely.

Right, but you'll not convince me that getting exposed isn't career-death.  It's simple, Clinton could have had any number of starlets, banging an intern was humiliating to the American populace.

Why defend him for being the lowest common denominator; this issue was nationally embarassing.  It is about judgement and discipline, simple as that.

Please don't tell me that you support this sort of behavior from the highest executive in the land.

Oh, give me a fucking break, Emmeran.  You're the same guy who says that we just don't understand why military men absolutely can't control themselves and have to rape women.  Oh, sorry, you then clarified and said that nobody YOU know would do that, but the military guys these days just can't help it. 

All we said is that it is a common misconception that it's illegal to fuck a worker that is under you (heh) as a boss.  This is true.

Now, if you really want to know what I think about Clinton?   Do you really think he didn't pay?  Hell, we all paid.  Just as the trail on Bin Laden was really heating up, he had to pull back because he was already backed into a corner.  Politically he couldn't do anything with his scandal and a horde of Republicans spending millions of dollars to make sure that everything he did and didn't do was front page news every day.  Oh he paid, all right, but where you're wrong is that it wasn't some huge melodramatic national embarrassment.  Yeah, it was embarrassing, but in the grand scheme of things, if that's the worst thing he did, then I said then and I say now that I guess we did pretty fucking all right.

Give me a fucking break, you big hypocrite.

headkicker_girl wrote:

Emmeran wrote:

fortinbras wrote:

Yep...just like sexual harassment is a very horrible thing to all Democrats unless Bill Clinton is doing it.

Look, just because bang'in an intern will get your ass fired in any other part of the professional world doesn't mean that rule applies to Democratic Presidents; after all - look at all the starlets he had a chance at and he chose to elevate (and penetrate) an intern.

Talk about the land of opportunity!

See, that's a misconception.  People fuck their employees all the time.  You just can't make it a condition of employment or punish them when they stop fucking you.  It's only teachers who are supposed to keep their hands off the merchandise.  Consenting adults in the workplace is not sexual harassment.

Just like lying under oath on a relevant question during a court room sexual harassment preceding is not an impeachable or imprisonible offense.

Every CINC has a "body count".  It is a bloody job.

Emmeran wrote:

headkicker_girl wrote:

And I want to add that in the legal world, the partners fuck the summer associates routinely.

Right, but you'll not convince me that getting exposed isn't career-death.  It's simple, Clinton could have had any number of starlets, banging an intern was humiliating to the American populace.

Why defend him for being the lowest common denominator; this issue was nationally embarassing.  It is about judgement and discipline, simple as that.

Please don't tell me that you support this sort of behavior from the highest executive in the land.

Em, you are dead wrong with how such affairs more often then not play out in the boardroom. While I am reluctant to name names because we would like their business in the future,   my company has done design work for 3 well known top executives that have faced no career risk or censure for screwing people under them who were way below their pay grade. Two of these have been CEOs of some of the largest publicly traded tech companies and the other is a financeer of nearly every houshold tech name you know. The same, though can not be said of how these indescretions factored in  consequences for their marriages. All became divorced.

Shame may be a useful tool to manipulate the masses, but it is absurd to deny the human nature that happens everyday. Which isn't to say that I would condone those who use their imbalance of power to abuse someone.

Last edited by Johnny_Rotten (2008-11-13 09:57:35)

jesusluvspegging wrote:

fortinbras wrote:

Yep...just like sexual harassment is a very horrible thing to all Democrats unless Bill Clinton is doing it.

But but but but but Clinton!

Play us another golden oldie, forteanblahs.

fortinbras wrote:

headkicker_girl wrote:

fortinbras wrote:

Just like lying under oath on a relevant question during a court room sexual harassment preceding is not an impeachable or imprisonible offense.

It's not, you stupid fuckwad.  Every person involved in a divorce case has lied under oath about something.  Hell, every person in a legal battle has lied under oath about something.  If we prosecuted everyone who lied under oath there'd be no space in the prisons.

Also, impeachment is just procedural.  It's designed to embarrass only.  It has no fucking teeth.  Clinton was impeached and served out the rest of his term.  After impeachment there has to be a vote for removal.  They never had the votes for removal, which is why they never forced the issue; they thought they'd embarrass Clinton into resigning like Nixon did, and he stood his ground.

The only person who's career was ruined was Ken Starr, and that pompous fucker deserved it for wasting tax dollars on a non issue.

Do I condone Presidents getting blow jobs from fat chicks?  It's not a matter of condoning or not condoning.  It's none of my fucking business.  That's between him, the fat chick and his wife.

http://en.timeturk.com/Former-US-mayor- … aberi.html He was held above the rule of law simply since he was Bill Clinton and the media's infallible lap dog.

Stupid fuckwad, that was under a plea deal.  He was accused of many other things and plead to the lesser as a way to avoid trial and save face.  He would have never been prosecuted solely for lying under oath.

fortinbras wrote:

Sure...never happens: http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.h … A963948260 http://www.senate.gov/~rpc/releases/1998/battalino.htm

Yes, I stand corrected.  Two cases, from a Republican website in support of going after Clinton, proves that it happens all the time.

By the way, that was sarcasm.

And of course, I have to add, that all three cases are distinguishable from the Clinton situation. I won't bore the board with why, but I'm sure the smart ones will be able to figure it out (which excludes you foot-in-ass).

Last edited by headkicker_girl (2008-11-13 11:48:18)

tojo2000 wrote:

Oh, give me a fucking break, Emmeran.  You're the same guy who says that we just don't understand why military men absolutely can't control themselves and have to rape women.  Oh, sorry, you then clarified and said that nobody YOU know would do that, but the military guys these days just can't help it. 

All we said is that it is a common misconception that it's illegal to fuck a worker that is under you (heh) as a boss.  This is true.

Now, if you really want to know what I think about Clinton?   Do you really think he didn't pay?  Hell, we all paid.  Just as the trail on Bin Laden was really heating up, he had to pull back because he was already backed into a corner.  Politically he couldn't do anything with his scandal and a horde of Republicans spending millions of dollars to make sure that everything he did and didn't do was front page news every day.  Oh he paid, all right, but where you're wrong is that it wasn't some huge melodramatic national embarrassment.  Yeah, it was embarrassing, but in the grand scheme of things, if that's the worst thing he did, then I said then and I say now that I guess we did pretty fucking all right.

Give me a fucking break, you big hypocrite.

You may want to ease up on that kool-aid a little bit, it's starting to affect your memory - please point out any place I ever justified rape, you are confusing me with someone else.   Please also point out where I've called this sexual harassment, because I didn't.   

I merely stated that the Democrats tried to act like it was simply a case of Clinton having an affair and I opined that in our society a C-level executive banging an intern is a huge no-no; which made this a bit more than an affair.  I can provide a plethora of supporting documents of other C-level exec's who were forced out for such transgressions merely on the appearance of impropriety.

Personally I found the knock-on legal scramble by both sides to be ridiculous; and my only concern with the issue at the time was: why the fat intern, Demi Moore had stayed overnight on several occaisions, bang her instead.

sigmoid freud wrote:

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"I absolutely had no intention of performing oral sex on those virile young men. None." said the disgraced former Senator.

The picture says it all, but then, you knew that, didn't you.