#2 2008-12-31 22:55:47
I've never known anyone who uses a Zune; they'd rather deal with iApple...
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#3 2008-12-31 23:27:39
I've been saying for years that if you own an mp3 player and it's not an iPod, you own a knockoff.
There's nothing intrinsically wrong with knockoffs...in general.
Except, obviously, with Microsoft's knockoff. What a fucking shock, eh?
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#4 2009-01-01 00:47:16
Actually, I've never downloaded music; I'm still quite bitter at Gen-X and Gen-Y for putting music stores (notably Tower Records) out of business...I tend to be more of a vinyl snob.
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#5 2009-01-01 00:49:33
Let the bricking begin.
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#6 2009-01-01 02:04:22
For some reason it appears that only the 30GB model has a problem dealing with the leap year, and it should be fine tomorrow. It seems strange to me that two products with the same name but no other disambiguating characteristics other than their storage capacity would have different software.
I have a 120GB Zune. I have no loyalty to the iTunes store, I couldn't see paying the same amount of money for an 8GB iPod. I didn't want to pay the cool tax, and I foolishly thought it would work with my Napster subscription, but it turned out I had to re-download everything anyway because it doesn't support Plays4Sure DRM. It's a nice player, actually; the audio quality is good, and the movies I've put on it off of my Tivo look nice. I had low expectations, and it exceeded them. My only regret is that the Zune store has slightly less of the music that I like in their catalog than Napster (No "Title TK"?), and I haven't re-built my music collection yet. The touch pad thing is weird, but you can turn it off.
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#7 2009-01-01 03:10:07
George Orr wrote:
I've been saying for years that if you own an mp3 player and it's not an iPod, you own a knockoff.
There's nothing intrinsically wrong with knockoffs...in general.
Except, obviously, with Microsoft's knockoff. What a fucking shock, eh?
Eh?? are you insinuating that Apple ever produced a product that wasn't a flat out copy of something else (with fancier packaging)??
the ipod is the knock-off, the zune is simply knock-on of the knock-off
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#8 2009-01-01 11:57:55
Rio MP300 (I actually still *have* one of these)...
Original iPod Classic:
No, they didn't copy the Rio. Much.
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#9 2009-01-01 12:10:35
The Rio PMP300 was the second portable consumer MP3 digital audio player (portable digital audio player), and was produced by Diamond Multimedia. It shipped in 1998.
Wow. I've never even heard of this, much less seen one.
It was the "second"? Who produced the first (and when)?
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#10 2009-01-01 12:30:10
George Orr wrote:
The Rio PMP300 was the second portable consumer MP3 digital audio player (portable digital audio player), and was produced by Diamond Multimedia. It shipped in 1998.
Wow. I've never even heard of this, much less seen one.
It was the "second"? Who produced the first (and when)?
Eiger produced the MPMan F10, and it was the very first portable digital audio player, but Apple did not copy that device. But they clearly *did* take a complete rip on the Rio. Diamond, the folks who built the Rio, were the ones who took on the legal bozos at RIAA and won, allowing all the digital audio we love today.
The MPMan:
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#11 2009-01-01 12:38:27
The Rio was made before the USB interface took hold, so it used the dongle, shown in the pic above, to connect to the parallel port on your PC (and it offered a pass-thru to then connect your printer), then a special cable went from the dongle to the Rio. It worked pretty well, but the memory was only 32MB, so it was limited in storage. They followed it up with the MP500 and that had much more storage.
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#12 2009-01-01 17:11:15
Nothing original comes out of Cupertino. Copied, Borrowed, Stolen. Everyone is duped by superficial design and the idea of an exclusive club.
Tards.
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#13 2009-01-01 18:45:15
I still use my IRiver H10 mainly because it's Napster compatible. I didn't see any reason to switch over to apple. My 12-year-old has an iPod, but he bitches because he doesn't want to pay for downloads, so he listens mostly to video game and anime music that he can get for free; the other one has a Zune, but he lost the chord to charge it so it's collecting dust.
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#14 2009-01-01 20:18:42
I got flawless audio from my Sharp microdisk recorder for 15 years, until it recently croaked beyond repair. It's handiest feature was voice activated recording. Haven't replaced it yet.
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#15 2009-01-02 01:23:43
Can't be bothered with any of it. I don't like to wear earphones when I'm out and about; I find it a little too enveloping. I'd rather hear the noises around me. At home, I listen to music on my computers all the time, as well as much of the radio programming I like. Hell, even the one network television show I keep tabs on I watch on line.
Even my cell phone is as basic as I could find. Keep it simple. Well, as simple as one reasonably can in 2009.
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#16 2009-01-02 01:50:38
Taint wrote:
Can't be bothered with any of it. I don't like to wear earphones when I'm out and about; I find it a little too enveloping. I'd rather hear the noises around me. At home, I listen to music on my computers all the time, as well as much of the radio programming I like. Hell, even the one network television show I keep tabs on I watch on line.
Even my cell phone is as basic as I could find. Keep it simple. Well, as simple as one reasonably can in 2009.
Damn, I hate to agree with your faggotty ass but i do.
The world is far too interesting to wear headphones
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#17 2009-01-02 03:42:09
Emmeran wrote:
Damn, I hate to agree with your faggotty ass but i do.
Fortunately, plenty of guys find my faggotty ass quite agreeable.
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#18 2009-01-02 06:53:35
Emmeran wrote:
Taint wrote:
Can't be bothered with any of it. I don't like to wear earphones when I'm out and about; I find it a little too enveloping. I'd rather hear the noises around me. At home, I listen to music on my computers all the time, as well as much of the radio programming I like. Hell, even the one network television show I keep tabs on I watch on line.
Even my cell phone is as basic as I could find. Keep it simple. Well, as simple as one reasonably can in 2009.Damn, I hate to agree with your faggotty ass but i do.
The world is far too interesting to wear headphones
I have to agree as well. If you wear headphones you won't know when they start whispering about you. If you're going to wear them, you might as well put your eyes in your pocket and your nose on the ground.
Let the bricking begin.
Maybe this will get it started Pale. I don't like compressed music generally. It's okay in a pinch, I suppose, but it is like pouring a layer of urine over good food. Of course, the basic ingredients have to be good for it to matter.
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#19 2009-01-02 07:11:36
Fled wrote:
Maybe this will get it started Pale. I don't like compressed music generally. It's okay in a pinch, I suppose, but it is like pouring a layer of urine over good food. Of course, the basic ingredients have to be good for it to matter.
There's nothing that says you have to use a lossy compression with a digital music player. Just rip the files yourself or buy them in digital form and you'll be fine.
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#20 2009-01-03 22:27:43
Fled wrote:
I don't like compressed music generally. It's okay in a pinch, I suppose, but it is like pouring a layer of urine over good food.
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#21 2009-01-03 22:59:57
choad wrote:
Fled wrote:
I don't like compressed music generally. It's okay in a pinch, I suppose, but it is like pouring a layer of urine over good food.
What happened to the "mp4" or whatever it was, the audio file that was supposed to provide better quality sound?
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#22 2009-01-04 02:50:36
George Orr wrote:
choad wrote:
Fled wrote:
I don't like compressed music generally. It's okay in a pinch, I suppose, but it is like pouring a layer of urine over good food.
What happened to the "mp4" or whatever it was, the audio file that was supposed to provide better quality sound?
Generally using an MP3 at an appropriate compression level will provide a good quality, otherwise check out formats like AAC.
MP4 is a video format common with portable players. I tend to rip Tivo programs to mp4 using their Tivo Desktop software so I have a few videos in case of emergency (or DMV).
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#23 2009-01-05 17:30:48
Finally got a good answer on why only 30GB Zunes were affected. The problem was actually not in Microsoft's code but in the Freescale board's driver. Apparently Toshiba's mp3 player got bit by the same bug: http://www.anythingbutipod.com/archives … ts-too.php
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#24 2009-01-05 18:18:25
Ogg Vorbis, for all your high-quality audio compression needs. I challenge anyone on earth to hear the difference between a highest-quality ogg file and a FLAC.
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#25 2009-01-05 18:27:37
jesusluvspegging wrote:
Ogg Vorbis, for all your high-quality audio compression needs. I challenge anyone on earth to hear the difference between a highest-quality ogg file and a FLAC.
My only problem with it is that it usually takes a bunch of wrangling to get it working.
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#26 2009-01-05 18:37:03
tojo2000 wrote:
jesusluvspegging wrote:
Ogg Vorbis, for all your high-quality audio compression needs. I challenge anyone on earth to hear the difference between a highest-quality ogg file and a FLAC.
My only problem with it is that it usually takes a bunch of wrangling to get it working.
On an ipod, yes it does take some fighting. Anywhere else, not really. Winamp's had support for it built in for quite a while now. The API is open source so everybody and their mother has made tools for it.
(If you're using MacOS you should be used to having to suck a dead man's dick to get a non-Apple-endorsed codec installed.)
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#27 2009-01-05 18:37:25
Who is this Zune? However, I am glad that curmudgeons are well represented here. I still don’t have a cell phone.
Every time I hear about someone getting hit by a vehicle or train because they were listening to some digital gizmo it warms the cockles of my black little heart.
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#29 2009-01-09 13:59:30
AladdinSane wrote:
I wouldn't be surprised, but valleywag is hilariously bad when it comes to publishing unfounded rumors as fact.
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#30 2009-01-09 16:04:00
I think those devices are definitely as dead as the 8-track player - the service however is another story.
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#31 2009-01-09 16:54:06
Emmeran wrote:
I think those devices are definitely as dead as the 8-track player - the service however is another story.
I was thinking that the smart thing to do would be to give them an update to support Plays4Sure and kill the service. I don't give a shit about "the Social", but I'd like to be able to go back to my Napster subscription.
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