#1 2009-05-29 18:29:34
Pravda wrote:
The final collapse has come with the election of Barack Obama. His speed in the past three months has been truly impressive. His spending and money printing has been a record setting, not just in America's short history but in the world. If this keeps up for more then another year, and there is no sign that it will not, America at best will resemble the Wiemar Republic and at worst Zimbabwe.
The proud American will go down into his slavery with out a fight, beating his chest and proclaiming to the world, how free he really is. The world will only snicker.
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#2 2009-05-29 18:34:45
Pravda is known around the world for its accuracy in reporting. I understand completely why I should be concerned.
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#3 2009-05-29 18:41:09
I feel like I am watching a friend succumb to bad liqour, shitty drugs and really ugly women. Phred... wake up pal, it's Dusty.
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#4 2009-05-29 18:44:22
headkicker_girl wrote:
Pravda is known around the world for its accuracy in reporting. I understand completely why I should be concerned.
I can't argue with that, but I am old enough to remember the cold war and the Soviet threat. Who thought they would ever be calling us Marxists, and actually have some basis for doing so.?
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#5 2009-05-29 18:58:43
phreddy wrote:
headkicker_girl wrote:
Pravda is known around the world for its accuracy in reporting. I understand completely why I should be concerned.
I can't argue with that, but I am old enough to remember the cold war and the Soviet threat. Who thought they would ever be calling us Marxists, and actually have some basis for doing so.?
Didn't Pravda recently run a story about two Russians having sex with a porcupine? Seriously, the Weekly World News had more credibility.
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#6 2009-05-29 19:10:59
When the Soviet Union collapsed I got a little wistful about Pravda, thinking how I'd miss its winsome propaganda...and I do, a little, but it was delicious to see how quickly--and in what a loopy direction--it rebounded.
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#7 2009-05-30 01:30:49
phreddy wrote:
Who thought they would ever be calling us Marxists, and actually have some basis for doing so.?
By the way, your "party" "talking-points" are rather confusing me on this one. I keep hearing you all use these terms inter-changeably; But, there are some major differences betwixt "Marxism" and "Socialism." So, exactly which way are we allegedly "heading" here?
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#8 2009-05-30 02:21:21
I wouldn't call Obama's policies "socialist" or "Marxist", I do feel as if Obama is a major promoter of Fabianism though. Seriously, we've nationalized our automotive industry and now he's working on health care. We're not instantly turning to Socialism through political overthrow, but we're slowly adopting socialist policy which is far more dangerous because it doesn't put up as many warning signs..
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#9 2009-05-30 02:36:37
Dirckman wrote:
I wouldn't call Obama's policies "socialist" or "Marxist", I do feel as if Obama is a major promoter of Fabianism though. Seriously, we've nationalized our automotive industry and now he's working on health care. We're not instantly turning to Socialism through political overthrow, but we're slowly adopting socialist policy which is far more dangerous because it doesn't put up as many warning signs..
Seriously, after Bush and the far right nationalized the Investment Banks and the Brokerage Houses what else was left?? Poor Obama is trying to find a way to go further Left but he just can't seem to match Bush's accomplishments. I have noticed that he does seem to follow the republi-monarchests tendencies on anti-trust: both democrat and republican seem to have decided lately that competition can be increased by decreasing the number of competitors. Or that could just be the PAC money talking.....
I'm sure our Republi-nazi's (Ptah and company) would join in to post some comment's denying these facts, but they are too busy working against the appointment to the supreme court to be worried about the marxism of their own party
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#10 2009-05-30 03:04:53
George Orr wrote:
When the Soviet Union collapsed I got a little wistful about Pravda, thinking how I'd miss its winsome propaganda...and I do, a little, but it was delicious to see how quickly--and in what a loopy direction--it rebounded.
I loved Pravda. I loved its stalwartness, its demanding appearance, the dense blocks of text. I loved the broadsheet format and the odd, stage-managed look of the photos it published.
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#11 2009-05-30 10:16:23
Taint wrote:
George Orr wrote:
When the Soviet Union collapsed I got a little wistful about Pravda, thinking how I'd miss its winsome propaganda...and I do, a little, but it was delicious to see how quickly--and in what a loopy direction--it rebounded.
I loved Pravda. I loved its stalwartness, its demanding appearance, the dense blocks of text. I loved the broadsheet format and the odd, stage-managed look of the photos it published.
Yeah, you just don't get that Ministry of Truth vibe from anywhere any more. I used to love listening to Radio Moscow in the 80s. Nowadays the best you can do is that hysterical noise North Korea sometimes makes...feh. Kids today.
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#12 2009-05-30 12:15:48
Emmeran wrote:
Dirckman wrote:
I wouldn't call Obama's policies "socialist" or "Marxist", I do feel as if Obama is a major promoter of Fabianism though. Seriously, we've nationalized our automotive industry and now he's working on health care. We're not instantly turning to Socialism through political overthrow, but we're slowly adopting socialist policy which is far more dangerous because it doesn't put up as many warning signs..
Seriously, after Bush and the far right nationalized the Investment Banks and the Brokerage Houses what else was left?? Poor Obama is trying to find a way to go further Left but he just can't seem to match Bush's accomplishments. I have noticed that he does seem to follow the republi-monarchests tendencies on anti-trust: both democrat and republican seem to have decided lately that competition can be increased by decreasing the number of competitors. Or that could just be the PAC money talking.....
I'm sure our Republi-nazi's (Ptah and company) would join in to post some comment's denying these facts, but they are too busy working against the appointment to the supreme court to be worried about the marxism of their own party
The Republicans certainly have played a major hand in socializing us as well, Obama has done nothing but taken what they created and run with it. I'm guessing that in ten to fifteen years, regardless of which party is elected, we'll wake up just like all those other "also ran" European countries.
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#13 2009-05-30 12:17:38
I'd have to disagree, the Euro's are much more on socialism for the people while we are definitly focused on corportate socialism.
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#14 2009-05-30 12:43:32
One of my close friends father worked for Pravda... they were I guess in the Communist Elite... Bejing, Paris, Yugoslavia. Our friend is incredibly mult-lingual as a result. Yuri (her father) was a dear and wonderful man. I was honored to sit with him, drink and listen to his tales. As a child he watched the German Tanks roll up to Moscow, and then retreat. The stories he could tell.
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