#1 2007-12-11 10:26:09

The woman charged with disorderly conduct for swearing in her own bathroom was in court Monday in Scranton.
In October, Dawn Herb swore at her toilet when it overflowed. She admits it was loud enough for people outside to hear her. It lead to a citation and then, some help from the American Civil Liberties Union.

http://www.wnep.com/Global/story.asp?S= … =menu158_2

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#2 2007-12-11 10:50:15

sofaking wrote:

In October, Dawn Herb swore at her toilet when it overflowed. She admits it was loud enough for people outside to hear her. It lead to a citation and then, some help from the American Civil Liberties Union.
http://www.wnep.com/Global/story.asp?S= … =menu158_2

And why did her toilet overflow?


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#3 2007-12-11 15:03:31

We don’t have the right to smoke pot in our own homes, and until recently no right to have oral or anal sex in private, so it will be natural for the state to conclude we don't have the right to free speech in privacy of our bathrooms.

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#4 2007-12-11 15:44:55

Well, come on. If we allow people to swear at their toilets in their own homes, then the next logical step is that we'll allow people to swear at toilets in other people's homes, and then - well, you can see where this is going. I say we nip this problem in the butt, er, bud.

Speaking of which.

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#5 2007-12-11 19:16:56

sofaking wrote:

In October, Dawn Herb swore at her toilet when it overflowed. She admits it was loud enough for people outside to hear her. It lead to a citation and then, some help from the American Civil Liberties Union.

I had read about this shortly after it happened (not a hat, as far as I know, but mostly since I'm not a fussbudget about repeats with enough of a time lapse). My thought was that the ACLU is arguing the wrong point of law. Freedom of speech/expression doesn't extend to physically compromising the existence of others, as the equivalent of a "noise complaint" might. I have no idea how loud this bitch bellowed, but it couldn't have been any more noisome than the people I heard having wannabe-pornstar sex in a nearby apartment a few weeks ago.

Folks get awfully touchy about having their own "privacy" invaded, as anyone who's lived next to someone with a loud stereo could tell you (or anybody who's had to listen to someone's bass-boosted vehicle roll by). The 'Obscenity Quotient' is immaterial. I believe we should all have the right to do whatever we want in our own homes and/or bedrooms, but I would draw the line at volume, not content.

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Speaking of which.

I would use it, as the article/PDF/whatever inquires. I don't get a particular thrill from being able to see others when they can't see me (that would be a fetish), but it falls to the When-U-Gotta-Go-Principle. A seemingly "open-air" crapper is just a mind-fuck. I sincerely hope they're not claiming that it's "art."

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#6 2007-12-14 18:03:22

An update:

Americans - you may now swear at your toilets

America: f***, yeah

In what seems like to be hailed as a great victory for justice, freedom and swearing, a woman who faced jail for loudly cursing at her overflowing toilet has been acquitted.

District Judge Terrence Gallagher dismissed the charge against Dawn Herb, 33, ruling that she was within her constitutional rights guaranteeing free speech when she let loose a string of profanities on October 11, in Scranton, Pennsylvania.

Although the language she used 'may be considered by some to be offensive, vulgar and imprudent ... such representations are protected speech pursuant to the (U.S. Constitution's) First Amendment,' the judge wrote in his decision on Thursday... (source)

Sounds like First Amendment grounds worked just fine. Just remember not to strain at your bowels. If you live alone, bust an aneurysm, and nobody finds you for a few days, then don't come cryin' to me. We'll already know what your last words were.

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#7 2007-12-20 02:35:57

I don't know why we still let people shit in their bathrooms. It's a pretty offending process if you think about it.

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