#1 2007-12-18 10:27:26
An 8th grade health teacher shows the kiddies a movie called "A Letter From Hell", stating they are going to hell if they don't believe in Jesus.
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#2 2007-12-18 11:23:16
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#3 2007-12-18 11:42:41
If I'm watching this when Mr. Sofie gets home in a few instead of appearing to do the invoicing, I'm going to experience hell firsthand.
Never come between a Joo and his moolah. They don't believe in hell.
That's a New Testament invention, you know.
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#4 2007-12-18 13:00:08
I can only imagine this will lead to more charges by fundamentalists that Christians are an oppressed group.
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#5 2007-12-18 15:25:24
Taint wrote:
I can only imagine this will lead to more charges by fundamentalists that Christians are an oppressed group.
WAKKA WAKKA WAKKA
sofaking wrote:
Never come between a Joo and his moolah. They don't believe in hell.
I really have to stop using that site.
As for "no hell like the one on earth," we've got Sheol, tho it lacks a satan and isn't necessarily an eternal damnation for sin (closer to a Limbo or Purgatory, perhaps). Few contemporary Jews regard it seriously, preferring to leave demons and flaming torments to the goyim and Fox news anchors.
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#6 2007-12-18 15:41:03
Taint wrote:
I can only imagine this will lead to more charges by fundamentalists that Christians are an oppressed group.
Today's Doonesbury...
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#7 2007-12-18 20:28:50
damn heathens!
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#8 2007-12-18 21:42:41
pALEPHx wrote:
As for "no hell like the one on earth," we've got Sheol, tho it lacks a satan and isn't necessarily an eternal damnation for sin (closer to a Limbo or Purgatory, perhaps). Few contemporary Jews regard it seriously, preferring to leave demons and flaming torments to the goyim and Fox news anchors.
I thought the literal translation of Sheol was the grave?
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#9 2007-12-18 21:55:56
pALEPHx wrote:
As for "no hell like the one on earth," we've got Sheol, tho it lacks a satan and isn't necessarily an eternal damnation for sin (closer to a Limbo or Purgatory, perhaps). Few contemporary Jews regard it seriously, preferring to leave demons and flaming torments to the goyim and Fox news anchors.
Funny thing, Satan. Back when I was a kid I realized one day that I knew a substantial portion of the Bible and the only two places I remembered seeing Satan was in the New Testament when he's tempting Jesus and in the story of Job, where he's hanging out with God and taking bets as to how much misery Job can put up with. It was that last story that really doesn't jive with the contemporary caricatures of Satan as an evil being who wants to kill people and take their souls. After I little bit of research I realized that 99% of what I'd seen or heard about Satan was either a) a reference to Paradise Lost, b) a real stretch to tie Satan with the dragon at the end of Revelations, or c) a weird hand-me-down from when the Church was trying to get people to stop worshiping pagan religions. Kind of disappointing, really.
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#10 2007-12-19 02:30:04
Baywolfe wrote:
I thought the literal translation of Sheol was the grave?
Sheol, the term in Hebrew means a grave or pit, was the place where the dead gathered, as thought by the early Hebrews, and was believed located beneath the earth, perhaps at the roots of mountains. The dead were thought to lead a conscious shadowy existence there, they were not in torment, but had neither hope nor satisfaction. Some thought they remained cut off from God.
It may be interchangeable with the concept of an individual grave, or a collective one. I will certainly avoid committing to any one definition, if only because the word has precursors in at least two other dead languages, and Hebrew is notoriously crappy about vowels (one lost diacritical mark in six millennia, and whoopsie). As there existed more specific words for "pit," and the closest Hebrew is "sha'al" (to interrogate, oddly enough), you can really go with whatever floats yer boat. I'll spot you a shekel for Charon.
tojo2000 wrote:
Kind of disappointing, really.
Ain't it. We really do lack "cheery religions." Either they turn people into willfully ig'nint blissninnies, or they posit their versions of successful living on the devaluation of some Other or Non-Believer type. Judaism is really no more defensible, in that regard. But, getting back off this fun little tangent, that teacher obviously missed the whole bit about who pays her salary. Unless a clergyman of some sort signs her checks, I politely suggest that she shove her fear-mongering films into her "lady hamper."
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