Emmeran wrote:

Interesting take on their part

Agreed.  Many would expect the Breitbart crew to jump on it as evidence that he was born in Kenya.  I believe it is a window into Obama's credibility.  Most of his positions are based on political expediency and not core beliefs.  Claiming to be born in Kenya to sell a book shouldn't surprise anyone who just watched him "evolve" from being pro gay marriage to being against gay marriage to being pro gay marriage (but only after big mouth Biden blew his cover and forced his hand).

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phreddy wrote:

Emmeran wrote:

Interesting take on their part

Agreed.  Many would expect the Breitbart crew to jump on it as evidence that he was born in Kenya.  I believe it is a window into Obama's credibility.  Most of his positions are based on political expediency and not core beliefs.  Claiming to be born in Kenya to sell a book shouldn't surprise anyone who just watched him "evolve" from being pro gay marriage to being against gay marriage to being pro gay marriage (but only after big mouth Biden blew his cover and forced his hand).

Or maybe some scumbag publishing hack lied in a blurb to make a book look more interesting, and another scumbag publishing hack had been basing an advertising smear campaign based on it until he died of being a fat fuck. Is this the best you have? I hope you don't vote based on stuff like this.

Paul wrote:

Or maybe some scumbag publishing hack lied in a blurb to make a book look more interesting, and another scumbag publishing hack had been basing an advertising smear campaign based on it until he died of being a fat fuck.

Apprently the scumbag hack who Obama hired to promote his books was, in 2003, still claiming our boy was born in Kenya.  I guess Obama forgot, for 12 years, to read the bio being used to promote his books.  Just a simple mistake I suppose.

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phreddy wrote:

GooberMcNutly wrote:

Tall Paul wrote:

I hope you don't vote based on stuff like this.

No, I'm waiting to see what Mother Jones has to say about it. You know: "News".

Here's a novel idea.  Let's require proof of citizenship before allowing anyone to run for office.  Arizona may be the first state to demand it.

Phreddy, I realize you have a throbbing hate-on for Barry but do you really give good flying fuck where someone was born? Seriously, you need to get your toenails clipped.

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Emmeran wrote:

And AZ will have to accept HI's documents confirming his birth, that's the way this shit works.

Sounds good to me.  Let's see the docs.

I'm still waiting for anyone, anywhere to ask any other candidate about their birth certificate. Until that happens (don't worry; it won't), then this is one of the most transparently racist things I've ever seen in national politics.

Also, before he was taken from us too late in life, Breitbart has done everything humanly possible to personify the term "disreputable." And yet, you still link.

phreddy wrote:

Or the other option would be that I would ask all the candidates, including the president, to submit a certified copy of their birth certificate.”

So, did he?

ah297900 wrote:

I'm still waiting for anyone, anywhere to ask any other candidate about their birth certificate.

I especially want to see Romney's. His family has hopped back and forth across the Mexican border so many times to avoid prosecution that he may be just the kind of wetback baby he wants to deport.

I don't care where someone was born, as long as they show allegiance to the USA. Unfortunately, there is this scrap of paper called the Constitution that DOES care. It's not the Bible, you can't pick which parts you want to follow and which you can conveniently ignore.

phreddy wrote:

Taint wrote:

phreddy wrote:

So, did he?

Apparently, that would be a last resort.  He just wants official confirmation that Hawaii has one.

Hawaii, he said, does not have to supply a certified copy of the birth certificate, merely send him an email confirming that it has one.

And when Hawaii does send the email, the Birther Crazies will claim that Obama threatened to nuke the state if they didn't say he was born there!

Ah wrote:

just so happens that we treat the one black president completely different from the 42 white ones.

That would be the one black president who promotes his books by saying he was born in Kenya which would make him ineligible to be president in the first place.  I will personally challange the qualifications of the next white guy running for president who publishes his birthplace as somewhere besides the United States.  Fuck you and your race card.  In many ways he's fortunate to be black so idiots like you will attempt to shout down legitimate criticism as racist. If he weren't black he would still be the most inept person who ever rose to high office.

phreddy wrote:

Ah wrote:

just so happens that we treat the one black president completely different from the 42 white ones.

That would be the one black president who promotes his books by saying he was born in Kenya which would make him ineligible to be president in the first place.  I will personally challange the qualifications of the next white guy running for president who publishes his birthplace as somewhere besides the United States.  Fuck you and your race card.  In many ways he's fortunate to be black so idiots like you will attempt to shout down legitimate criticism as racist. If he weren't black he would still be the most inept person who ever rose to high office.

Phred, go ahead and admit out in the open that W was less inept than Obama. Can you just make that one plain statement of fact without quibbling? And with a straight face?

Phreddy, this is truly the stupidest shit you have ever posted.  The idea that a blurb saying Obama was born in Kenya is some cynical attempt to manipulate Obama's persona when applied to a book he wrote in which he describes being born in Hawaii is so fucking retarded that I'm really short on words to describe it.  I really hope you thought this was going to be some brilliant troll.

This:

The new president of the Review is Barack Obama, a 28-year-old graduate of Columbia University who spent four years heading a community development program for poor blacks on Chicago's South Side before enrolling in law school. His late father, Barack Obama, was a finance minister in Kenya and his mother, Ann Dunham, is an American anthropologist now doing fieldwork in Indonesia. Mr. Obama was born in Hawaii.

I have come the well-informed conclusion that Phreddy, a middle aged woman in Columbus, Ohio,  is actually trolling us. Ms. Phreddy, an avowed Victorianist, owns several cats and is enormously fond of chamomile tea and the novels of Algernon Charles Swinburne, which she has read numerous times. She takes particular delight, however, in trolling web sites, posing as a Neanderthal with an IQ of 92 (In fact, she keeps a picture of a particularly dull looking Neanderthal, downloaded from Wikicommons, posted above her desk as a source of continuing inspiration). Never terribly popular in high school, Ms. Phreddy was, however, a good student who particularly enjoyed English and Drama Club. Most lunch periods, she could be found eating bologna-and-cheese sandwiches with her few friends, or reading. In college, she was the assistant editor of the campus's other weekly newspaper which was not as widely read but did feature the most complete coverage of her school's academic decathalon triumphs, a fact of which she was particularly proud. Ms. Phreddy has never married, having dated only two men in her life. Only one of those relationships could be considered truly serious, and she broke it off after realizing her boyfriend had no intention of giving up his weekly Dungeons and Dragons game night, a pursuit she considered a little too dark and edgy.

Ms. Phreddy owns 11 vibrators.

tojo2000 wrote:

Phreddy, this is truly the stupidest shit you have ever posted.

I could refute that, but I'm too inebriated to search the site.

phreddy wrote:

Jesus, what a shit storm for simply pointing out the obvious.  Did I hit a sensitive liberal button or what?  I'm sorry the Anoited One has not lived up to expectations for those of you who looked to him for deliverance, but I'm just the messenger.

I for one think he's done a pretty darned good job, but to be honest I am measuring him against his predecessor so my perception of his performance might be a little over-inflated.

As far as I know, no watery tart gave Obama a sword in a farcical aquatic ceremony and declared him to be the Anointed One.  Like Emmeran, I feel the pluses of his time in office outweigh the minuses, but as pointed out, his predecessor set the bar very low. 

What amazes me is that the Republicans have gone out of their way to find extraordinarily bad news White candidates to run against him.  This suggests the fix is in to have a token black president.  Mexico did the same thing; they once had a token Indian president, who was said to act Whiter than any of Mexico’s other presidents.  Neither country will have another non-White president for a very long time, if ever.

ah297900 wrote:

Legitimate criticism of Obama begins to mount:

If Obama’s SAT scores were near the average of the transfer students entering Columbia in the fall of 1981, he would have scored significantly lower than George W. Bush, whose combined math and verbal scores were 1206 out of a possible 1600 points (as revealed by the New Yorker in 1999).

Also, So, is this picture doctored? It's up to you to decide. However, the fact that the White House may have altered a picture of the President throwing a football speaks to how desperate they are to perfectly manicure his public image.

Do I think Obama throws kittens into wood chippers? No. But the fact that I just suggested that he may raises some troubling questions about our president.

Updated football picture url:  http://www.flickr.com/photos/whitehouse … otostream/

Never give up, Phreddy! Use facts and logic to prove your point of view is the correct one. Here's some new Breitbart ammo for you:  SAT Scores Prove Obama Might Be Dumber Than Bush!

Would you vote for someone who was so out touch that he DIDN'T smoke in 1970's Hawaii?

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choad wrote:

GooberMcNutly wrote:

Would you vote for someone who was so out touch that he DIDN'T smoke in 1970's Hawaii?

I won't anyway but no. I lived in Watsonville, CA in the middle 70s and was thrilled to get their shake leavings.

You'd hardly recognize the place these days.  It's basically a suburb of Santa Cruz.

choad wrote:

tojo2000 wrote:

You'd hardly recognize the place these days.  It's basically a suburb of Santa Cruz.

That sucks. I assume Capitola wasn't spared. Is Castroville next?

Let's just say Capitola is where you go to visit the mall.

Castroville has thus far been spared, but as long as Central Texan BBQ stays around I guess I could deal with a little gentrification.

Decadence wrote:

Whilst I oft agree with Penn Jillette; I generally believe him to be a cunt {And, obviously, not the good kind})

On the contrary, I think he's the best kind of cunt. Rough around the edges and probably quite stinky, but still a great ride because it just feels so right...

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