For most of his life, Blake Smith said, “every inch of my body craved male sexual contact.”

And that, folks, is my own personal definition of bisexual (YMMV).  I may be wrong, but to me the 'craving of male sexual contact' is simply a bisexual thing.  I see being gay as going beyond the sexual only, such that a person who identifies as gay 'craves being in love with a male' (as well as craving male sexual contact, of course).

whosasailorthen wrote:

For most of his life, Blake Smith said, “every inch of my body craved male sexual contact.”

And that, folks, is my own personal definition of bisexual (YMMV).  I may be wrong, but to me the 'craving of male sexual contact' is simply a bisexual thing.  I see being gay as going beyond the sexual only, such that a person who identifies as gay 'craves being in love with a male' (as well as craving male sexual contact, of course).

As one of High Street's token gays (and I've always admired HS for its decision to hire not one but two tokens) I have to say: that's a really weird way of phrasing it. Honestly, did you crave being in love with a female?

"Gay" is a modern construct. Same sex attraction, of course, is not. But as a man who is attracted to other men - a fact for which, unlike those poor losers featured in the Times piece, I am exceedingly grateful - I am also romantically inclined toward the members of my gender. It's not a choice. I suppose I could choose, as you could as well, not to involve myself with the gender to which I am attracted, but what would be the point? Then I'd be miserable as those sops, as you would, as well.

But I have to elaborate. As I said, "gay" is a modern construct but only in the sense that it's only very recently in our history that those like myself have been permitted to live our lives as best suits us, rather than trying to fit an imposed standard which is not only inappropriate but uncomfortable and alienating. To suggest it's merely a matter of bisexuality also downplays and denigrates your own orientation and its importance in your life. Is your wife in danger of your suddenly deciding to start balling other dudes because there's some latent switch-hitter deep down inside you just aching to get out?

People don't choose to be straight but they do choose to believe in archaic, bronze-age superstitions and myths.

whosasailorthen wrote:

Taint, I think we're in violent agreement, though I phrased it from a hetero point of view.  I don't 'crave' being in love with a woman - that was too strong a word - but I desire to be in love with a woman, as a 'gay' man desires to be in love with a man.  What I was trying to say was the the fundamental difference between 'gay' and 'bisexual' is that gay includes a genuine love element, whereas bisexuality is just that - sexual desire only - and most bisexual males wish to fall in love with a woman.  And this 'cure' is rubbish because it's only 'curing' the bisexual desire (and even that I highly doubt - it's really only sublimating it), and that to 'cure' a person who truly identifies as gay is entirely impossible.  I'm pretty sure I could not be 'cured' to love a man, and I doubt the reverse is true.

That makes much more sense. Even then, though, I would wonder about the romantic inclinations of professed bi-guys. Over the years, I've known several guys who lived their lives as gay men while still enjoying romantic dalliances with women. I know several erstwhile straight men who enjoy sex with other guys (although that sex takes quite a few different forms, from full-on penetrative sex to non-penetrative S/M as a top) and, then, there are those guys who will fuck just about anything provided it's carbon-based and, generally, mammalian.

GooberMcNutly wrote:

Heck, up until 20 years ago we were trying to "correct" left handedness, treating it medically as a birth defect.

Well, come on. They are weird.

I have the feeling that most of these idiots are confusing discomfort with the rampant promiscuity encouraged by the commercialized “gay culture” with unhappiness over their sexuality.  I found it fun at first, but after awhile I got sick of the users, the head games, and in some cases the really messed-up people who were drowning, and who were pulling me down with them when they tried to use me as a life raft.

In my case, it took accepting the fact that I’m not emotionally cut out to have sex with hundreds of random strangers per year.  I concentrated on developing a group of stable fuck buddies to take care of my sexual needs and minimized my exposure to what for me was the toxic gay bar culture.  Eventually one of my fuck buddies became my life partner.  Fucking a cast of thousands was a dysfunctional method of searching for what I always knew I wanted; a same gender spouse.

This isn’t a condemnation of people who have no interest in a long-term partner and really want to spend their time fucking a cast of thousands.  It’s a suggestion that people who are unhappy with their sexuality consider the possibility that the way they express their sexuality is what is making them unhappy, not the fact that they’re attracted to their own gender.

In Louisiana, we are taught that alligators are ornery because they have all those teeth and no toothbrush. Hetero married homos are the human equivalent of this most educated deep thought. They are ornery because they have all of those queer genes and no buttholes.

Bigcat wrote:

Banjo wrote:

In Louisiana, we are taught that alligators are ornery because they have all those teeth and no toothbrush. Hetero married homos are the human equivalent of this most educated deep thought. They are ornery because they have all of those queer genes and no buttholes.

I dunno, last time I was in Louisiana I saw lots of buttholes. Mostly on in NOLA.

In fact, I was one of them.

I'm hoping you were a "butthole" south of the 800 block of Bourbon. You become a "rosebud" after that block.

If you continue up Bourbon after seeing this sign, you might wake up the next day with an "owie" on your colon.



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Bigcat wrote:

Banjo wrote:

If you continue up Bourbon after seeing this sign, you might wake up the next day with an "owie" on your colon.

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Can't say for sure. Does that make me gay? Please don't let fnord kiss me.

A great prank is to take a really drunk newbie that has to piss bad to the bar right across the street from the Voodoo Shop. They don't pay attention to their surroundings running in to the bathroom but the long walk back from the pisser is a knee slapper. Assless chaps are considered formal wear there.

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Oh you girls, such a frank and open discussion