#1 2013-12-12 16:57:49

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#2 2013-12-12 18:10:36

Fuck you - that's my shitter story for the week.  Get your own subscription and stop fucking with my reading time on the crapper.

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#3 2013-12-13 07:51:42

Just another socially progressive paradise. The last time I visited the aquarium there with the family I drove 3 times as far so I wouldn't have to get there through the ghetto and we left long before the sun went down.

The usual game plan is now: 1) Riots, 2) Fire, 3) Gay Hipsters, 4) Gentrification. Check back again in 20 years.

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#4 2013-12-13 11:17:01

I have been shouted down for saying manufacturing supports everything, but it does.  Camden, Detroit and other U.S. cities are shining examples of what happens when they pull up stakes and leave. Manufacturers who sell their goods in the national and international marketplaces by shipping products to customers can, and will, locate where the climate is favorable.  And, because of competition, they must seek out the most efficient and profitable locations.  This isn't greed, it's business.  They cannot be forced by government regulations, litigation, or union demands to stay in a hostile environment and lose money and market share.  If liberal America doesn't wake up to these facts, we will eventually lose the golden goose slowly slide into the turd world.

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#5 2013-12-13 18:36:25

Phed, the only problem with you thesis is that many of those manufacturers moved to the turd world and set up sweatshops surrounded by barbed wire. It isn't manufacturing that supports everything, but manufacturers that actually give a shit about the lives and families of the floor workers.

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#6 2013-12-13 23:32:08

Camden, Dee-troit, Gary, Indiana...

Tall Paul wrote:

It isn't manufacturing that supports everything, but manufacturers that actually give a shit about the lives and families of the floor workers.

Since where and when have manufacturers ever cared about the floor workers...or are they supposed to?

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#7 2013-12-14 01:35:52

When they paid them a living wage and allowed them enough time off each week to raise a family they at least seemed to care. Somewhere between the gilded laissez-psychotique Randian dystopia and the dictatorship of the proletariat there has to be a middle ground where the rich can get richer and working people can get ahead. I just don't think Phreddy's ideal of maximizing corporate profits without regard to moral, legal or social considerations is the way to find it.

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#8 2013-12-14 11:01:09

More on beautiful Camden.

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#9 2013-12-18 03:03:08

choad wrote:

Dystopia

Go figure.
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