Very sad to hear.  Hard to say if these types of afflictions are environmental, dietary, or genetic inbreeding. 

We grind raw game meat...usually moose,  caribou or salmon whatever remains after butchering/trimming...or when folks clear out freezers at the beginning of a new season. 

Our recipe:  Bake organic eggs, organic sweet potatoes, and combine with raw meat of choice (preferably wild game). 
Grind ingredients, include egg shells, into tub.  Occasionally, we sprinkle in some Dinovite.  Measure out appropriate servings in ziplock bags and freeze until needed.  We do a few months at a time.   

Dehydrated organ meat makes an excellent treat.  Frozen organ pieces, taken like vitamins, good for most creatures...up to and including hominids.

Large bones with marrow...bake low heat.  Canines content themselves for hours gnawing on these.   

A friend sends moose bones (for broth) to a cancer patient he knows...evidently something to it,  as the guy has been in remission for a number of years. 

You can control diet at this point.  I'm suspect of the food chain...for humans or pets. 

Good luck.

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Pet personalities are almost as variable as human, from rabid assmunch to docile oven mitt. I wouldn't get a pup for an ailing dog.

I'm really sorry to hear that, guy. It's the one major drawback of keeping dogs. JetRX has a good recipe that you could even add some brown rice to. Em has some good advice, depending on the two dog's personalities it might have a positive effect.
I hope you both feel better.

BC, I too am sorry about Flossy and that you are going through this.  I have a friend who had non-Hodgkin lymphoma about 40 years ago.  At that time, she says the bombarded her with a lot of radiation.  She went protein heavy, with anything that she had an appetite for.  You may have the same challenge -- finding what Fluffy will eat.

My wife has been through chemo twice, the first time more than 22 years ago.  That is to say, there is reason to be hopeful.  Depending on the cocktail, it can be relatively mild at first, and the unpleasant reactions tend to build up.  The bad stuff happens for the first week after chemo, and then gradually gets better.  White cell counts may drop sharply, and there are meds that can help bring them back up, but they can be extremely expensive.

On the question of getting a puppy, I would think that a puppy would not know to leave Fluffy alone when rest is needed.

God, it is weird to be serious and empathetic here.

It's good to hear that she has a pack, my recommendation was based on thinking she was an only dog.

Hang tough big guy and take good care of your friend.

JetRx wrote:

Run raw meat through a grinder with the other (cooked) ingredients.  Tall Paul mentioned brown rice.  We used it for a time but one of our dogs appeared to be allergic to grains.  If Flossy hasn't had issues, add some. 

Don't forget big leg bones.  Cut into sections.  They're full of marrow.  Frozen raw is best (won't splinter).  You can slow boil it out as well...though it takes a while.

A little fish oil occasionally.  Too much =  diarrhea. 

In the same situation, we'd be just as worried and doing the same thing.  Hope all goes well.

Thanks.

Cat-Dawg,

Hope the Flossie Lassie is still at your side.  Being the drunken dumbass I am, forgot forward this
For wild game bones, this is the ticket.  A good friend,living nearby, was complaining his new pup was dragging monster bones on his deck.   I'm sure they'd process and ship...provided you're going that route. 

Be glad to assist any way at all.  I know a couple employees and worked with the owner's son at one time.  In fact, two of my friends living down that way, regularly get the call for roadkill moose...

I am in radiation oncology and a believer in the classic treatments. However, I ran across a very beautiful girl several years back that had Hodgkin's Lymphoma. MD Anderson had given her months to live so she wanted to go to Oregon where this guy administered marijuana oil for cancer patients. I scoffed at the very idea of it, pissed her off and missed my chance for some last guy ever lovin. I still see her around every once in a while and she says she is in remission from the oil. I would tend to call bullshit on her entire story at this point but I'm hearing about this effective treatment more and more. I still won't say it's a cure, but damn it, throw a dart if you have to. I wouldn't know the correct dosage for a dog by the way, but if he orders pizza you are probably in the window.

Hang in there.  Hope she does too.

In the last six months, I've said goodbye to two cats after 18 years. I know the feeling.

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Tall Paul wrote:

Banjo wrote:

I am in radiation oncology.....

Do you shoot patients with proton beam guns, shove radioactive needles up their ass or just leave them in a room with dangerous isotopes? I've been teaching English to needle-meisters for many years now.

Hey, don't knock it until it's cured your cancer, like it did mine.  I'm not saying it didn't suck just about as bad a anything sucked in all my life, but I'll still wager that letting the tumor grow until it killed me would've sucked a bit more.
P.S.  I really hope your dog does OK, Bigcat.  She sounds like she's enjoying life right now.

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Banjo wrote:

George Orr wrote:

Tall Paul wrote:

Do you shoot patients with proton beam guns, shove radioactive needles up their ass or just leave them in a room with dangerous isotopes? I've been teaching English to needle-meisters for many years now.

Hey, don't knock it until it's cured your cancer, like it did mine.  I'm not saying it didn't suck just about as bad a anything sucked in all my life, but I'll still wager that letting the tumor grow until it killed me would've sucked a bit more.
P.S.  I really hope your dog does OK, Bigcat.  She sounds like she's enjoying life right now.

He's a fucking dumb ass, George. Don't let him get to you. He certainly doesn't bother me. I have had many arguments with anti-cancer treatment people and they are all the same. Let him enjoy his bone mets one day until the tumor is pressing on his spinal cord. Then he can friend me.

Ha! Only a po-faced schtupwhistle would bridle at describing brachytherapy 'shoving radioactive needles up your ass'. Besides, it prevents me from saying even worse things, like suggesting to Big Cat that when hunters come to ask to shoot on his land he leer at them and whisper "Only if I get to keep ALL the bones......." through a demented rictus.
Local game processors (and there must be some) might also be a good supply for those.

Sorry about your dog, Bigcat.

S'why I don't have cats anymore. Losing them tears me apart.

I'm very sorry to hear about your dog, Bigcat. I have a couple of pets that I still can't talk about years after they died. LIfe's a pretty tough business, and we can be forced to face that truth very directly when we lose the things we love, especially the beings that are connected to our hearts.

I hope you are both able to maintain some degree of comfort as you go through the transition.

I'm really sorry, BC.  Get out in the mountains and let the wind take what it will.

Bigcat wrote:

Dmtdust wrote:

To ease any pain she is going through, I would suggest Cannabis.  I kept my old Familiar Mr. Nick alive for another year when he developed stomach/bowel cancer.  A bit in the morning, 1/2 hour before feeding.

Give her all your love, which I am sure you are doing.

Weed won't help. She is dead.

Misread.  sorry about yer pup.

Dmtdust wrote:

To ease any pain she is going through, I would suggest Cannabis.  I kept my old Familiar Mr. Nick alive for another year when he developed stomach/bowel cancer.  A bit in the morning, 1/2 hour before feeding.

Give her all your love, which I am sure you are doing.

Cannabis "butter" if you can find it.  Freeze it. Cut in small chunks. 
Helps w/ step-mom's trigeminal neuralgia (extremely nasty affliction).

On the more legal side.  Cannabinoids from Charlottes Web. 
Link:   https://www.cwhemp.com
Products are good quality.  They have a pet section. 

Bone marrow...
Indeed, sad news.

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Just sent my boy Brewer on, I'll miss him.  Doc said liver failure caused by old age.

The last month has been a challenge just to get food into him and at his age of almost 15 for a Black Retriever time had run out.  Was force feeding him with a syringe the last few days as the local vet was on vacation.  When he couldn't eat bacon or salmon anymore we knew it was over.  I got lucky in that my neighbor has a backhoe so all I have to do is back-fill and plant his dogwood tree.

Today really sucks.