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#1 2025-04-22 09:04:43

“With us in charge, we will keep you safe and happy and you really don’t need to concern yourself with the complicated work of governance. You don’t want to ‘tear down’ or ‘shake up’ the system: having a stable group of very wealthy people control the government has always led to the greatest level of stability and peace—look how stable Europe was for a thousand years when royal families and their landed gentry ruled. We’re the ones chosen by God or a brilliant DNA lineage to lead. Just go shopping and leave things to us.”
https://www.alternet.org/2019/11/reveng … -democracy

Further:
https://www.alternet.org/billionaires-future/

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#2 2025-04-22 11:53:07

I've tried to discourage my friends from falling down the "Trump Information Well ©" and pay attention to what those rich fucks are actually doing.  We pay taxes with the expectation that those funds will be redistributed for the benefit of all; they don't pay taxes anymore and now they want our tax money too for the benefit of a few who don't even need the money. 

Add that to the pseudo-inflation we've experienced since COVID gave them the excuse to raise prices without any real justification and we're due for a boiling point, at least in every other similar period of our history.  Unfortunately, the peasants have traded their pitchforks and torches for red hats.  We can't get anything positive done until the "great unwashed MAGA masses" pull their collective heads out of their asses and get angry about the right things.

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#3 2025-04-22 14:49:52

Baywolfe wrote:

Add that to the pseudo-inflation we've experienced since COVID gave them the excuse to raise prices without any real justification and we're due for a boiling point, at least in every other similar period of our history

People pay attention to what leaves their wallet. The price gouging of consumer goods and necessities like food is noticed when it is exposed. but the sense of helplessness against corporate profiteering leads to a malaise of bitterness ripe for the harvest.

Live long enough, you see everything twice. Too bad humans are so poor at integrating certain painful lessons.



He was among the richest men in the world. He made his first fortune in heavy industry. He made his second as a media mogul. And in January 1933, in exchange for a political favor, Alfred Hugenberg provided the electoral capital that made possible Adolf Hitler’s appointment as chancellor. Before Hugenberg sealed his pact with Hitler, a close associate had warned Hugenberg that this was a deal he would come to regret: “One night you will find yourself running through the ministry gardens in your underwear trying to escape arrest.”

The Oligarchs Who Came to Regret Supporting Hitler
They helped him in pursuit of profit. Many ended up in concentration camps.


Hugenberg was the financial organizer of the conservative party. Arguably an Elon Musk like character and often as clueless and isolated. He was of the capitalist class seeking to use the middle class, educated elite conservative party to reform post war economics. to support expansionist policies favoring oligarch control.  He did it by buying up all the media and providing shell trust funds for corporations to donate massive millions in political contributions to both the Conservative and Nazi parties.

He thought he could shift more of the economic pain off on the populace if the passive incomes of the middle class conservatives were protected. And at the same time roll out economic rejuvenation via renewed German expansionist policies of colonialism and European annexation. He blew it in 1933 by talking out of school and the Nazis said you have gone too far, we hate the cultivated bourgeoise too, you conservative nationalists are  not our political base, and not for the least, we Nazis are not ready to profess an action policy of European annexation, not just yet, there are preliminary steps to take first. He was forced to sell all his media companies to more agreeable owners and retire from all politics. He was passed over for responsibility in the denazification, but he was very much culpable.


The Fateful Alliance: German Conservatives and Nazis in 1933

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#4 2025-04-22 20:35:23

I'm more curious about what German politics was like before and during the takeover.  I say that because I see GOP Congresspersons telling us, "It's all just hyperbole, Trump would never say any of those things.", right after we see Donald actually saying those exact things.

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