#1 2008-03-28 19:12:17
A question for those of you who have gone under general anaesthesia (I haven't): how much did you worry about this possibility?
A 19-year-old woman told the court she had wisdom teeth pulled on Dec. 26. When she awoke in the recovery room, she said, the doctor was forcing her hand on his genitals, rubbing her chest with his other hand and saying, "That's a girl."
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#2 2008-03-28 19:35:55
square wrote:
A question for those of you who have gone under general anaesthesia (I haven't): how much did you worry about this possibility?
A 19-year-old woman told the court she had wisdom teeth pulled on Dec. 26. When she awoke in the recovery room, she said, the doctor was forcing her hand on his genitals, rubbing her chest with his other hand and saying, "That's a girl."
Worry more you won't recover your ability to make tinkle until your bladder bloats to the size of a beach ball and you get a catheter tube instead.
Yeah, both times. On both occasions I insisted on a local well in advance and was ignored. Assert yourself and never mind if they think you're an asshole.
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#3 2008-03-28 19:51:31
No doctor or dentist that I have ever heard of conducts any business whatsoever in a room alone with a patient under any circumstances. There is always a third party present--either a member of the doctor's staff or a friend of the patient.
I did the ole wisdom-teeth extraction at age 17. It was my first time under general anesthesia, and the surgeon was male. My mother AND a nurse were present in the room the whole time. (When I woke up, all three of them were laughing, and they wouldn't tell me why. My mother now claims to have forgotten.)
I remember the dental surgeon as a nice, good-humored man and I seriously doubt that he would have molested an unconscious girl in any case...but who can really tell? If molesting unconscious females is something you like, you might just choose a career that gives you those opportunities.
Nowadays, you can usually find a dentist who will provide the option of a drug that suppresses both physical pain and the memory of the event. I cannot remember what the drug is called, so I just refer to it as "roofies." I've used this drug for two separate dental procedures (a root canal and a crown) and I have no memory of anything from roughly 30 min. after swallowing the pill to much later in the day.
I mention this because they use this particular drug so that the patient remains conscious and is able to respond to instructions and answer questions. Memory is impaired but judgment is not. It's likely that under the effects of this drug, a patient would be able to fight off an unscrupulous doctor, or at least raise an alarm--even though she'd have no memory of it later.
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#4 2008-03-28 20:01:23
Having had many many surgeries, I prefer to be completely knocked out. That way, It seems like no time has gone by when you wake up. Granted, the procedures done on me required general anesthesia. As Choad pointed out, the catheter aspect is a pain. You have to go, but you really can't.
One of the times I had surgery done with just a local, it was too damn creepy, they removed a tumor from my neck. The entire time I'm watching the facial expressions on the doctor, thinking, WTF? Not to mention the feeling of them digging around inside you....
But, as a male, I don't think molestation would be a big concern for me....
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#5 2008-03-28 20:47:17
Hmm, when my wisdom teeth came out it was just me and the doctor (and lots of Novocaine). He did end up crawling all over me on the chair, but only because the lowers were so badly impacted. He eventually had to break them into pieces just to get them out. It was actually interesting to watch; one thinks of surgery being about deftness and skill, but this was all about brute strength and pliers.
The worst disappointment was the Percocet prescription - I was expecting them to be fun, but they just made me sleepy.
Back to the main point, there are some risks that for whatever reason don't naturally register with me, like walking around alone late at night. On seeing this article, it occurred to me that I never really considered this a risk of anaesthesia*, even having heard about similar incidents before. I was just curious how people with a more normal sense of risk felt.
*On the other hand, the medical risks of anaesthesia would naturally concern me.
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#6 2008-03-28 21:14:50
square wrote:
there are some risks that for whatever reason don't naturally register with me, like walking around alone late at night.
I once read, some years ago, that males are statistically at greater risk than females for violent stranger-crimes (like getting violently mugged). But men generally aren't paranoid about walking around alone in a dodgy area, whereas women are constantly made paranoid about nearly every aspect of their behavior.
Remember being a little kid afraid of the bogeyman? Well, guys get to grow out of that mindset, but girls grow into women still bearing that old fear--lock your car; don't open your windows when the weather's nice; don't dress like that; don't park there; don't go out after dark--the bogeyman'll get ya.
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#7 2008-03-28 21:48:29
My dentist is a rather pretty brunette. I'd take whatever drugs she recommends, but I'd just as soon remember it if she takes advantage of me.
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#8 2008-03-29 00:05:27
When I had my wisdom teeth out, my (male) oral surgeon had two assistants (female) in the room to help him and monitor my anaesthesia. The only unpleasant part was when the two assistants got in a snarly, bitchy argument with each other. I was referred back to him six years later by a different dentist, and he had let those two go, thank God.
I had the "roofies" treatment for my perio surgery this past December, and it was fuckin' awesome!! I couldn't BELIEVE how stoned I was, and how supportive everyone was about my being stoned...the pain sucked afterward, but, being LEGALLY STONED, well, that's a treat you don't get every day!
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#9 2008-03-29 01:11:19
George Orr wrote:
But men generally aren't paranoid about walking around alone in a dodgy area, whereas women are constantly made paranoid about nearly every aspect of their behavior.
Oh, yeah, that's for sure, but even male friends think I'm nuts for being a scrawny white guy walking through certain neighborhoods. Maybe my friends are just a bunch of pussies.
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#10 2008-03-29 01:54:35
square wrote:
George Orr wrote:
But men generally aren't paranoid about walking around alone in a dodgy area, whereas women are constantly made paranoid about nearly every aspect of their behavior.
Oh, yeah, that's for sure, but even male friends think I'm nuts for being a scrawny white guy walking through certain neighborhoods. Maybe my friends are just a bunch of pussies.
Maybe it's just growing up Southern, but I won't let women I know walk alone at night. Often to their amusement, I'll walk them home, or to the underground or to their car rather than let them walk by themselves at night.
I'm usually more paranoid about something happening to them than they are.
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#11 2008-03-29 02:37:21
Taint wrote:
I'm usually more paranoid about something happening to them than they are.
Ok, now that's ghey.
My mother foolishly mentioned she soothed her home-alone fears by chanting, "I'm glad my father's a policeman, I'm glad my father's a policeman." My grandfather was adman for 17 Magazine and created the Breck Girl.
First thing I did was test this alien torment on my little sister... for no lifelong end of demonic joy and amusement. Don't tell anyone but that's probably partly why I'm here.
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#12 2008-03-31 21:57:23
George Orr wrote:
(When I woke up, all three of them were laughing, and they wouldn't tell me why. My mother now claims to have forgotten.)
When I came out of anesthesia from having my four wisdom teeth extraceted, I was basically trying to molest both the nurse and the dentist. I don't remember it but this is what they told the police, judge, and the jury. Maybe you did something along the same lines.
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