#1 2008-11-15 13:38:48
Ut oh! It's neither. Gods came first.
"This shows sociocultural changes come first, agriculture comes later," Stanford archaeologist Ian Hodder tells Smithsonian magazine. "You can make a good case this area is the real origin of complex Neolithic societies."
Gobekli Tepe:The World’s First Temple?
Predating Stonehenge by 6,000 years, Turkey's stunning Gobekli Tepe upends the conventional view of the rise of civilization
Schmidt points to the great stone rings, one of them 65 feet across. "This is the first human-built holy place," he says.
"Gobekli Tepe is staggeringly old. It dates from 10,000BC, before pottery and the wheel. By comparison, Stonehenge dates from 2,000BC. Our excavations also show it is not a domestic site, it is religious - the world's oldest temple. This site proves that hunter-gatherers were capable of complex art and organised religion, something no-one imagined before."
Deutsches Archaologisches Institut site in English
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#2 2008-11-15 13:49:19
I've been following this. Any signs of dinosuar eggs?
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#4 2008-11-15 20:14:46
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#5 2008-11-15 20:26:34
That fox is a cool graphic. I think I will work it into something.
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#6 2008-11-15 21:16:36
Thanks for posting this, Johnny. It is a staggering find, for the artwork alone.
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#7 2008-11-16 02:43:12
I'll see your baby jesus and raise you one.
Emmeran wrote:
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#8 2008-11-16 05:17:14
I don't know if any of you read the comments following the - fascinating - story (I love this stuff). Dozens of Armenians harping on about how the site is actually Armenian (as if Armenia existed 11,000 years ago) or that the site is actually Abraham's Ur, because, well, Urfa sounds a lot like Ur, right? Never mind that Ur was actually several hundred miles to the southeast. Or, my favorite, the site is where Noah reestablished civilization because, oh, never mind.
Ah, idiocy.
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#9 2008-11-16 05:22:12
Taint wrote:
I don't know if any of you read the comments following the - fascinating - story (I love this stuff). Dozens of Armenians harping on about how the site is actually Armenian (as if Armenia existed 11,000 years ago) or that the site is actually Abraham's Ur, because, well, Urfa sounds a lot like Ur, right? Never mind that Ur was actually several hundred miles to the southeast. Or, my favorite, the site is where Noah reestablished civilization because, oh, never mind.
Ah, idiocy.
Wait, I thought the earth was only 6000 years old. How could Noah reestablish society 4000+ years before the flood?
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#10 2008-11-16 05:25:05
tojo2000 wrote:
Taint wrote:
I don't know if any of you read the comments following the - fascinating - story (I love this stuff). Dozens of Armenians harping on about how the site is actually Armenian (as if Armenia existed 11,000 years ago) or that the site is actually Abraham's Ur, because, well, Urfa sounds a lot like Ur, right? Never mind that Ur was actually several hundred miles to the southeast. Or, my favorite, the site is where Noah reestablished civilization because, oh, never mind.
Ah, idiocy.Wait, I thought the earth was only 6000 years old. How could Noah reestablish society 4000+ years before the flood?
It's a mystery, my son.
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#11 2008-11-16 05:26:33
Taint wrote:
I don't know if any of you read the comments following the - fascinating - story (I love this stuff).
Me, too. Here's one of my favorite sites.
http://www.britarch.ac.uk/BA/ba102/index.shtml
There's weeks and months worth of fascinating reading there.
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