Taint wrote:

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...and Blessed is the Fruit of Thy Crotch, Jeebus.

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No, not bonsaikitten.  These "dioramas" or whatever they are were the work of a Victorian taxidermist.  They used to be on public display and apparently the Vickies thought they were cute.  I particularly remember a schoolroom scene using dozens of tiny dead baby rabbits, a dead puppy at play with a ball, and the dead kittens' tea party (the image you used).  I'd just like to visit those nightmares again.

That's the bunny - Thank you very much!

pALEPHx wrote:

It was one of those "so untrue it's GOT to be funny" statements that really don't sing after they hit that first high note.

Hokay, then how's this work for you?

Just a suggestion:

choad wrote:

It's Kosher!

Do you see something about his foreskin I can't see?

Wow-thanks for the Potter link. I hadn't heard of him before. I actually like some taxidermy but I suppose we're not too far off from being able to donate your body to art instead of science..wouldn't that be a trip.

Taint wrote:

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That's only funny if the UPC is for Spam or Jean Naté or something.

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karenw wrote:

Cool and just in time. Buttfuck Holiday looks like fun.

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Fled wrote:

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Is there a way, perchance, that I could offer you, say, half a dozen new fonts? This one is, erm, not exactly growing on me.

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choad wrote:

Hey, Square, suppose we could bend the polling function to vet new banners?

As you said, not really practical to use the built-in polls.  I did come up with some backend code to allow voting on banners, but my CSS-fu is too weak to get the user interface part right.  I think an ideal layout would be for voting icons to appear when you move the mouse over a banner; something like this:



and clicking on one or the other registers a vote.  This way it's unobtrusive most of the time.  Anyone have a clue how to make this happen?

The current design of the backend registers a "pro" or "con" vote for each banner depending on which way you voted.  This way we would have data not just on the net sentiment, but on the relative pro vs. con numbers as well as the total number of votes.

There is a record of IP addresses kept to discourage stuffing the ballot box; these expire after X days.  No check is made whether a user is logged in or not, so guests can vote, too.  This can be restricted to users only if desired.

The other part I haven't done is any way of actually viewing the results.  The current banner page is very busy as it is so that doesn't seem like a good place to put them.

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Fled wrote:

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I was serious about those fonts, Fled. I can tie them up in a nice ZIP file with a pretty little bow on top. PC or Mac, your choice. Please take advantage of this offer.

square wrote:

The other part I haven't done is any way of actually viewing the results.  The current banner page is very busy as it is so that doesn't seem like a good place to put them.

Can "current results of polling" be 'called' to the same post that reproduces newly added banners; i.e., refresh the page, and see new totals in that particular place?

As long as IP logging is active, registered users can't just log out and vote as many times as they want (we are, of course, anticipating a great deal more interest in "voting" than may actually exist). I wouldn't object to the functionality as long as it didn't affect my final say. Like what, f'rinstance, would happen if one banner had 49 votes For and 51 Against. That's not a significant enough difference to let users decide. Nor is a voting pool of fewer than 10 users/guests for a given banner. I just don't think there's enough interest in affecting the outcome of which banners display. Sort of an "if it ain't broke, don't waste five days trying to code a fix for it" proposition.

Personally, I think the effort could be better spent coming up with other features for the board. I'm not caffeinated enough to recommend too many at this juncture, but--short of returning in-built operations such as avatars and sigs--we might want to improve the existing poll functions, topic voting, add a WYSIWYG text editor, deauthorize certain kinds of HTML, etc. (I've seen a lot of raw code popping up in quoted posts and am not sure if it's just me/my usergroup, or this is an oversight of some kind).

Ultimately, I don't think we want to become a forum where our only "gimmick" is voting on banners. The banners are nice an' all, but they are not the whole purpose of this site. And I say this with the obvious bias I should have for our banners remaining fresh, interesting, and thematically relevant.

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pALEPHx wrote:

(I've seen a lot of raw code popping up in quoted posts and am not sure if it's just me/my usergroup, or this is an oversight of some kind).

You could autograph a note to ptah addressing 'angled bracket html horrors in one easy lesson'.

I find it interesting.  I haven't chimed in because I don't have anything to contribute to the technical end of the matter.

I think the ability to vote on banners might foster some healthy competition, which would result in quality.

Shit, when rcade added killfile ability to Cruel--and allowed users to see the list of the killfiled--a competition sprang up over that; some people actually took pride in being the most killfiled Cruelie.  Top Poster Stats were also pretty popular.

pALEPHx wrote:

Sort of an "if it ain't broke, don't waste five days trying to code a fix for it" proposition.

Netwide, everywhere you look, the pool of postable links has shrunk while this lunacy gets eyeballs, if not participants. As a rule of thumb, if it ain't fun, it won't get done. This play, Pale.

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Yeah, I noticed it about 20 minutes ago. I feel my participation in the process would be severely compromised by my vested interests.

square wrote:

jesusluvspegging wrote:

I like the idea of vote-upon-banners.

The Son of God gets what he wants.  Move your mouse over the banner at the top of the page, and the interface should be obvious.

Very nice.

pALEPHx wrote:

. . . the inevitable desire to keep voting as they're reloaded is invariably curtailed by a warning that one has already voted on a particular banner, without bringing the user back to the original page.

This was actually intentional, as I thought that if the error simply flashed up briefly before redirecting, people might not notice.  You do have a point, the user might not be that concerned about it.

Probably the better behavior would be to predetermine whether the user has voted on a banner and disable the voting buttons.  I'll see what I can do along those lines.

pALEPHx wrote:

Well, with that many banners, there's almost no way people are going to remember which ones they voted for.

OK, now the voting buttons are disabled if you've voted on a banner already.  Thanks for the feedback, this is much better than hitting the user with an error.

pALEPHx wrote:

Do we have a table for voting results--even if it's just to help me decide if some need to go--or is that too much to query?

Right now the only way is to manually query the database.  As of a few minutes ago, these were the top twenty and bottom ten:

+-----------------------+------------------+-----+-----+-----+
| filename              | username         | pro | con | net |
+-----------------------+------------------+-----+-----+-----+
| more_to_love.jpg      | pALEPHx          |   5 |   0 |   5 |
| parental_fail.jpg     | pALEPHx          |   4 |   0 |   4 |
| hs_moran.jpg          | karenw           |   4 |   0 |   4 |
| HSromancelives.png    | Taint            |   3 |   0 |   3 |
| pale_goatsmas.jpg     | choad            |   3 |   0 |   3 |
| pale_hsbANI1.gif      | pALEPHx          |   3 |   0 |   3 |
| grunts_and_chicks.jpg | pALEPHx          |   3 |   0 |   3 |
| pale_partygirl.jpg    | pALEPHx          |   3 |   0 |   3 |
| wanna_look.jpg        | pALEPHx          |   3 |   0 |   3 |
| hs_fired.jpg          | jesusluvspegging |   3 |   0 |   3 |
| hssoylent.jpg         | jesusluvspegging |   4 |   1 |   3 |
| HStwins.png           | Taint            |   3 |   0 |   3 |
| pedochu.jpg           | pALEPHx          |   3 |   0 |   3 |
| hs_rss.jpg            | pALEPHx          |   3 |   0 |   3 |
| muslimrock.jpg        | pALEPHx          |   3 |   0 |   3 |
| poisoned_punch.jpg    | pALEPHx          |   3 |   0 |   3 |
| tsunami.jpg           | choad            |   2 |   0 |   2 |
| HSlurkerisgay.png     | Taint            |   2 |   0 |   2 |
| hsoacidmonkey.jpg     | square           |   2 |   0 |   2 |
| HSanxiety.jpg         | Taint            |   2 |   0 |   2 |
+-----------------------+------------------+-----+-----+-----+

+------------------------------+-------------+-----+-----+-----+
| filename                     | username    | pro | con | net |
+------------------------------+-------------+-----+-----+-----+
| HSduct_tape.jpg              | pALEPHx     |   1 |   3 |  -2 |
| nyc.jpg                      | Ramona Bell |   0 |   2 |  -2 |
| bunniesLOGO-1.jpg            | Fled        |   0 |   2 |  -2 |
| sidewalk-LOGO.png            | Fled        |   0 |   2 |  -2 |
| HSceilingcat.png             | Taint       |   0 |   2 |  -2 |
| hsboyslife.jpg               | choad       |   0 |   2 |  -2 |
| HSembarrassedforyou.jpg      | Taint       |   0 |   2 |  -2 |
| vishnu.jpg                   | asdf1971    |   0 |   2 |  -2 |
| Flying-Spaghetti-Monster.png | fnord       |   0 |   2 |  -2 |
| moar_gheynezz.jpg            | pALEPHx     |   0 |   2 |  -2 |
+------------------------------+-------------+-----+-----+-----+

With the low vote totals at this point, the results are likely to change significantly.

Edit: I will come up with a more friendly report page soon, still thinking about how it should look.

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square wrote:

With the low vote totals at this point, the results are likely to change significantly.

I can deal with the report as it is. Have it on my desk in the "other room" once a week, thanks.

Heh.

But yes, we obviously need to wait a while before I start actually doing anything in response to these votes.

VOTE, PEOPLE. VOTE LIKE YOUR LIVES DEPEND ON IT. (they don't, but I will kill off a banner here and there if it truly proves that wholly unpopular)