#4151 2013-04-07 05:22:10

Thanks, TP.  It had been so long, I had forgotten how to upload as a banner.

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#4152 2013-04-08 18:03:53

https://cruelery.com/sidepic/dollarcloverleaf.pnghttps://cruelery.com/sidepic/onporpoise.jpghttps://cruelery.com/sidepic/circularabstract09.png



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#4153 2013-04-10 07:38:56

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#4154 2013-04-18 21:13:04

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#4155 2013-04-23 15:59:07

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#4156 2013-04-23 19:27:29

The sick part is that I actually HAVE one of these in my house, but it's in chrome.   Very 'mid-century'.

https://cruelery.com/sidepic/collanderlampshade.png

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#4157 2013-04-23 19:37:47

whosasailorthen wrote:

The sick part is that I actually HAVE one of these in my house, but it's in chrome.   Very 'mid-century'.

https://cruelery.com/sidepic/collanderlampshade.pnghttps://cruelery.com/sidepic/collanderlampshade.jpg

Its chrome colander twin retails anymore for under $5. Of course, now it's...

https://cruelery.com/sidepic/madeinchina.png

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#4158 2013-04-25 23:53:51

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#4159 2013-05-02 23:41:51

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#4160 2013-05-03 04:42:11

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#4161 2013-05-03 15:37:17

http://picturevip.com/images/bzjob.jpg

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#4162 2013-05-08 08:14:19

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https://cruelery.com/header/decadence.jpg

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#4163 2013-05-11 07:13:42

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#4164 2013-05-11 11:04:29

New Banner Added:

https://cruelery.com/header/cooterville.jpg

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#4165 2013-05-15 13:57:04

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#4166 2013-05-19 19:46:48

Anybody else noticed that suddenly there are hundreds of up votes for top banners at seeming random?

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#4167 2013-05-19 20:58:31

sigmoid freud wrote:

Anybody else noticed that suddenly there are hundreds of up votes for top banners at seeming random?

I did. I haven't asked Square or Choad about it yet, but assumed there was a good reason for it.

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#4168 2013-05-20 11:29:48

Tall Paul wrote:

sigmoid freud wrote:

Anybody else noticed that suddenly there are hundreds of up votes for top banners at seeming random?

I did. I haven't asked Square or Choad about it yet, but assumed there was a good reason for it.

That recent activity is even more pronounced on my local site. I'm guessing a bot, but to what purpose, I haven't a clue.

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#4169 2013-05-20 11:35:30

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#4170 2013-05-20 11:59:27

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#4171 2013-05-22 01:08:38

choad wrote:

https://cruelery.com/sidepic/fuck.you.cherry.pie.png

Magnificent.

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#4172 2013-05-22 01:40:36

choad wrote:

Tall Paul wrote:

sigmoid freud wrote:

Anybody else noticed that suddenly there are hundreds of up votes for top banners at seeming random?

I did. I haven't asked Square or Choad about it yet, but assumed there was a good reason for it.

That recent activity is even more pronounced on my local site. I'm guessing a bot, but to what purpose, I haven't a clue.

Hmm, hadn't really noticed that before, but I see what you mean.  It's not Google, since voting is done via POST links that it and other legitimate spiders won't follow.  My speculation would be bots trying to attack the server by submitting the first form on each page with bogus data, but that's just a guess.  If you think it's an issue I can try to turn on logging for these requests.

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#4173 2013-05-22 05:44:33

It's always nice to know where bot attacks are coming from. Besides, I'm supposed to be the Banner Czar. If I can't give all my own banners 100 up votes I don't see why some greasy little hacker should.

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#4174 2013-05-22 11:48:17

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#4175 2013-05-22 11:57:19

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https://cruelery.com/header/Nixon___Elvis_on_High_Street.jpg

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#4176 2013-05-23 00:01:55

Unfortunately I don't know as it would tell us much - the traffic has to be coming from hundreds of IP addresses.  The current anti-ballot-stuffing code only lets an IP vote once on a particular banner.  Will take a look at what I can whip up over the weekend.

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#4177 2013-05-23 01:22:59

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#4178 2013-05-25 13:20:24

square wrote:

Hmm, hadn't really noticed that before, but I see what you mean.

It does look like the numbers were cooked.

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#4179 2013-05-25 20:52:39

MSG Tripps wrote:

square wrote:

Hmm, hadn't really noticed that before, but I see what you mean.

It does look like the numbers were cooked.

There's no doubt about that.

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#4180 2013-05-28 01:12:36

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#4181 2013-05-28 23:35:15

New Banner Added:

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#4182 2013-05-29 05:01:10

OK, I added some code to log if attack attempts are being made via the banner voting form.  So far (~30 minutes), that doesn't seem to be the case - only valid votes are being submitted.

After some time passes, I may be able to do some analysis of the IP addresses they're coming from to see if there's any pattern.

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#4183 2013-05-31 02:49:47

The results seem to be: robots are going to the "Register" or "Profile" pages and trying to create an account by submitting the first form that appears on the page.  These make up 99% of recent votes.  They don't seem to be attempting to hack the site (other than creating spam accounts).

I have changed things so that any votes coming from those pages will not be counted.  The effect should be minimal on legitimate users, since they don't spend much time there.  However, if you try to vote on a banner while on one of those pages, you'll see a notice that it was not counted.

In addition, I have modified the code so that the "pro" vote form doesn't always come first - it and the "con" vote form now appear in random order.  This should cause any robot votes to at least balance each other out.

Let me know if you notice anything that seems broken as a result of the changes.

The question now becomes: should there be a Great Reset?  Right now the vote totals are pretty useless, and bumping them all back to zero would at least give the possibility that they might reflect what people think.  Discuss.

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#4184 2013-05-31 09:17:10

Fid

Reset...

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#4185 2013-05-31 09:44:30

Reset. I'll also consider any requests to turn banners that don't completely suck back on.

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#4186 2013-06-01 18:25:26

Reset.

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#4187 2013-06-05 04:21:38

You should look at the deactivated banners anyway, because one of your predecessors turned off many of the early banners for reasons unrelated to their merit.

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#4188 2013-06-05 05:48:50

fnord wrote:

You should look at the deactivated banners anyway, because one of your predecessors turned off many of the early banners for reasons unrelated to their merit.

What part of "don't completely suck" do you not understand? You're absolutely right though, there are many good banners that should still be displayed. After the reset I'll wade through the whole swamp again  and turn the good ones back on. Those who ignore history are doomed to have politics like Phreddy's.

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#4189 2013-06-07 02:06:46

OK, hearing no opposition, the 566 header images that are currently set to be displayed (either to registered users only, or to guests also) have had their votes reset to zero.  I figured the rest haven't been affected by the recent wave of robot votes.

The 816 banners that have been "deleted" aren't really gone; they've just been set not to show up in the list when you click the "Banners" link.  You can view all 1,409 banners from the beginning of High Street by going here.

I suppose you can make your case for resurrecting some of these to the Banner Czar; he will have to give me a list as it requires manually fiddling with the database.

Vote away!

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#4190 2013-06-07 05:23:29

Attention Banner Czar!




Here are some of mine that have been deleted, most of them because of squabbles with a previous Banner Czar.  Look them over and see if you deem any of them worthy of restoration.  If I remember correctly, banners don't show up in the voting statistics until somebody votes yea or nay on them, so a few of them may be active but not showing in the voting statistics because of the reset.  I saw a number of deleted banners by other people that are awesome; lack of merit wasn't always the reason banners were deleted.


https://cruelery.com/header/Abandon%20Hope.001.png


https://cruelery.com/header/AcidCityscape.001.png


https://cruelery.com/header/Africa.png


https://cruelery.com/header/Expand%20Your%20Mind.001.png


https://cruelery.com/header/FelineSolution.png


https://cruelery.com/header/Filthy-Pond.png


https://cruelery.com/header/Flushing.001.png


https://cruelery.com/header/Fun-Shit-.png


https://cruelery.com/header/Jenkem.001.png


https://cruelery.com/header/Jinns.png


https://cruelery.com/header/Kitty%20Boobs.001.png


https://cruelery.com/header/Kitty%20Porn.001.png


https://cruelery.com/header/Mohammed%20Teddy%20Bear.001.png


https://cruelery.com/header/MoreRoaches.png


https://cruelery.com/header/Religion.png


https://cruelery.com/header/Roaches-BlueBackground.png


https://cruelery.com/header/Rubbers.png


https://cruelery.com/header/Seal%20of%20Disapproval.001.png


https://cruelery.com/header/Sheep.001.png


https://cruelery.com/header/Shock.001.png


https://cruelery.com/header/ShouldYouBeAfraidToComeIn.png


https://cruelery.com/header/Signs.png


https://cruelery.com/header/Smile.png


https://cruelery.com/header/Stormy_Weather.png


https://cruelery.com/header/Sucker!.001.png


https://cruelery.com/header/Teddy%20Bear%20Love%20Hole.001.png


https://cruelery.com/header/Welcome.png


https://cruelery.com/header/Welcome%20to%20High-Street.001.png


https://cruelery.com/header/cruel,site,day.001.png


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#4191 2013-06-07 06:32:07

There are some fine banners there, fnord, and I can't deny that many deserve to been seen. However, as a general rule I believe the fewer turds at the top of the page, the better. I'm People's Commissioner Tirebiter now, and nobody's sweetheart *smack!*

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#4192 2013-06-08 02:16:15

fnord wrote:

Attention Banner Czar!



Here are some of mine that have been deleted, most of them because of squabbles with a previous Banner Czar.  Look them over and see if you deem any of them worthy of restoration.

Loaf flush aside, that's some of your best work but I'm only one vote. Was that Pale's handiwork?

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#4193 2013-06-08 02:21:27

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#4194 2013-06-08 05:01:57

Right, I've just gone through the banner list and made a few changes here and there but no big changes. After I bleach my eyes I'll start in on the 'deleted' list.

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#4195 2013-06-08 08:16:18

choad wrote:

fnord wrote:

Attention Banner Czar!



Here are some of mine that have been deleted, most of them because of squabbles with a previous Banner Czar.  Look them over and see if you deem any of them worthy of restoration.

Loaf flush aside, that's some of your best work but I'm only one vote. Was that Pale's handiwork?

Yes.  Personal considerations entered into Pale's decisions when he was deciding which banners to delete.  He also had some strange idea that work produced by the denizens of this place should meet some ambiguous standards of his.

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#4196 2013-06-08 16:16:30

fnord wrote:

choad wrote:

fnord wrote:

Attention Banner Czar!



Here are some of mine that have been deleted, most of them because of squabbles with a previous Banner Czar.  Look them over and see if you deem any of them worthy of restoration.

Loaf flush aside, that's some of your best work but I'm only one vote. Was that Pale's handiwork?

Yes.  Personal considerations entered into Pale's decisions when he was deciding which banners to delete.  He also had some strange idea that work produced by the denizens of this place should meet some ambiguous standards of his.

Ah yes, Pale.  I still have a bit of self satisfaction as to what happened there.

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#4197 2013-06-08 17:26:41

fnord wrote:

He also had some strange idea that work produced by the denizens of this place should meet some ambiguous standards of his.

This "strange idea" was 100% correct; as originally conceived, it was left entirely to the Banner Czar's judgement which ones to keep.  The voting system was not developed until later.  While there were occasional hissy fits (the technical effects of which I reversed when they occurred) and certainly a lack of detached objectivity, overall he took more abuse than he deserved.  There were (and IMO, still are) worse actors in our midst.

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#4198 2013-06-08 18:02:02

square wrote:

This "strange idea" was 100% correct; as originally conceived, it was left entirely to the Banner Czar's judgement which ones to keep.  The voting system was not developed until later.  While there were occasional hissy fits (the technical effects of which I reversed when they occurred) and certainly a lack of detached objectivity, overall he took more abuse than he deserved.  There were (and IMO, still are) worse actors in our midst.

This does not mention seemly firing for effect 15, 20 or more times in a row, repeatedly.

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#4199 2013-06-09 03:09:38

Shit sake, fnord. Why go all drama queen for such small stakes as a banner displayed here at the Darwin, California of the intrawebs?

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#4200 2013-06-09 03:59:39

sigmoid freud wrote:

Shit sake, fnord. Why go all drama queen for such small stakes as a banner displayed here at the Darwin, California of the intrawebs?

You think this is being a drama queen?  Sweetie Darling, there have been many Oscar-worthy performances where I've played the role of Drama Queen (the evidence is in the archives if you care to look for it), but my posts on this thread the last few days wouldn't be noticed by Serious Drama Queens.

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