My wife(who frowns upon pot smoking) told me about the pill form Marijuana they use where she works to get the old, severely demented and dying people to eat. It's called Marinol (sp?) and it's $215 per PILL.

I tried explaining the cost effectiveness of purchasing an OZ but she doesn't feel that they would go for it.

Bigcat wrote:

My wife(who frowns upon pot smoking) told me about the pill form Marijuana they use where she works to get the old, severely demented and dying people to eat. It's called Marinol (sp?) and it's $215 per PILL.

I tried explaining the cost effectiveness of purchasing an OZ but she doesn't feel that they would go for it.

$215 per pill?

Damn, I know I someone who takes 4 of those a day! God bless good medical insurance!

snottyloverocket wrote:

we can make hemp clothing and hemp cars and hemp books and hemp tractors and maybe even smoke a little hemp...

And we can make snotty love rockets, apparently. Who the fuck are you?

Hemp is itchy. I am pro legalization, however.

opsec wrote:

1 lb butter, OZ, 8 hours in crock pot.  Strain.  Use in baking.  They'll go for it.

Are you suggesting ordinary baking won't extract thc by itself?

GooberMcNutly wrote:

choad wrote:

Are you suggesting ordinary baking won't extract thc by itself?

THC is fat soluble and begins to degrade at about the boiling point or slightly above. Which is why you want to keep temps down and use butter or other lipids. But 8 hours? That's a little excessive. I get good extraction in about an hour just under the boiling point.

I was amazed at the difference in potency after making butter and using it in baking. The Goob may be right about timing... I used a crockpot on low and have no idea what temp was reached.  Worked well though.

choad wrote:

I use apple sauce in place of sugar and most of the liquid but I'm still unsure of your method here. Why butter and not oil? Got a complete recipe?

Because baked goods made with butter are vastly superior to baked goods made with oil?

There's a couple things (pita bread, for example) that I make with (olive) oil and not butter, but most things get butter for the superior flavor qualities.

When you smoke the demon weed in your whack pipe or a J, you incinerate most of the THC. That rush so many people seem to enjoy is actually trauma. . . your body reacting to the millions of white hot cinders being sucked down into the delicate pink tissues of your throat and lungs. The resin that adheres to the inside of your bong is tar, and it pollutes your body just as much.

I prefer the vapor technique because it provides higher concentrations of the good stuff and very little of the bad stuff. I don't feel the rush but the high lasts longer, feels stronger, and I don't get sleepy or dopey when it wears off. And I don't have the liability of toting paraphernalia on my person.

Cooking with it is more potent for the same reason, you're not incinerating the THC. I cook with the leftover roasted weed from the vapor process, I call it "load carcass." The THC is not depleted and I figure I either sell it to high school kids or bake with it. Because it's crisper, I send it through a flour sifter. Then I sauté it in butter. Sometimes I strain it, sometimes not. You would not even notice it in my oatmeal chocolate chip cookies with walnuts. But I've been really impressed with the purist approach too, especially that tiny little butter cookie someone gave me for my trip to Crater Lake.

Nice, I'll borrow that line to bash on the primitives in my world.

jesusluvspegging wrote:

Yes, thank you.  I think we're all evolved enough not to have to light our weed on fire like fucking cavemen.

Mine's old school, you buy a glass bowl plus a thermocouple-controlled heat gun, total cost is anywhere between $125-200 depending on how much glass you need: http://www.vriptech.com/product.htm

All you need from there is the first item, the "Vaporization Chamber Bowl" for $45, and then you buy a $70 heat gun from the Makita store in your nearest big city. You can buy fancier heat guns if you favor Craftsman, Milwaukee, DeWalt, Bosch or the $200 Swiss-made Steinel. DO NOT buy the cheapo heat gun at Home Depot, it will cook your larynx.

This set-up pays for itself with your first quarter ounce of Hindu Kush, since you consume significantly less. FYI, vaporizing also works well with lesser quality weed, as it still volatizes only the THC. Download the users manual from their site for free so you can better appreciate how it works.

The fancypants system is called the Volcano: http://www.thevolcanovaporizer.com It's very nice but costs over $500. The cannabis connoisseurs wring their hands over these two and each make has its fan base touting the best performance. I don't pay much mind to debating stoners though, and I like the VripTech. The only drawback is portability, but that pretty much applies across the board with these.

There are a few manufacturers of these box systems with ceramic heating elements and whips - http://www.vaporwarehouse.com/hands-fre … izers.html - they're popular, respectably effective and look classy, but I do not prefer them.

There are other units that rely on the proximity of the heating element, but I don't hear favorable things about them, specifically complaints about scorching. There are alternatives similar to the VripTech and Volcano which use forced air, that's definitely the way to go.

GooberMcNutly wrote:

The real genius of the butter method is that you can put 1/4th oz per stick (or two sticks if you want to tone it down) of butter into a stock pot with an equal amount of water. Bring to a simmer and keep right under the boiling point for an hour. Cover and let cool quietly on the counter top for about an hour until it gets close to room temp. Put in the fridge carefully without disturbing. After the butter has solidified nice and hard (you may have to freeze slightly, but not until the water freezes) you can just lift it off the water. The THC will be in the fats and the vegetable matter stays in the water along with most of the isomerized alpha acids that make it bitter and harsh.

That is pretty damned clever.  I'll have to try it.