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#1 2020-07-17 13:55:29

https://www.opb.org/news/article/federa … 4w.twitter

"Remember, Remember, Remember The 4th of November when the mask was removed to reveal that the pretender was a dictator in Truth?"

What we are seeing in Portland Oregon is a dress rehearsal for what is coming down the road. The federal officers are playing "Catch and Release". This is signalling what is to soon start happening on a wider scale if you all don't start "behaving".

These are extrajudicial activities where when fully implemented people are "disappeared" ala Argentina, Iraq, and other failed states in the past. There is no "US exceptionalism" here, we taught this lesson around the world, and now it has come home to nest.

Be Aware.

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#2 2020-07-17 16:37:53

What the fuck is GOING ON up there?

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#3 2020-07-17 17:03:39

Baywolfe wrote:

What the fuck is GOING ON up there?

Portland is an exercise for what is coming down the pike nationwide.  Stay tuned.

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#4 2020-07-18 11:15:29

SpacePuppy wrote:

Baywolfe wrote:

What the fuck is GOING ON up there?

Portland is an exercise for what is coming down the pike nationwide.  Stay tuned.

What Trump thinks it can get away with in the dark corners of our country is different from what it can pull in major metropolises.  You'd see some of those unmarked cars start blowing up. 

The real problem here is the Pandora's Box effect.  Now every Presidential Administration will know the new kind of stunts they can pull.  For example, when did "Federal Officers" start wearing camo and driving around in unmarked vans?  And, is it really any worse than Federal Agents in suits and ties driving around in unmarked vans?  I get it that, in Trump's mind, people of color protesting white supremacy and systematic racism is a real "end of the world " scenario for him.  But it's also a clear violation of State's rights.

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#5 2020-07-19 20:10:22

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#6 2020-07-20 10:05:51

It's all fun and games until the quiet knock on your door in the dark of the night.

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#7 2020-07-20 12:29:50

GooberMcNutly wrote:

It's all fun and games until the quiet knock on your door in the dark of the night.

Welcome to the post Republic times.

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#9 2020-07-20 17:08:20

Donny wrote:

We're not going to let New York and Chicago and Philadelphia, Detroit and Baltimore and all of these, Oakland is a mess. We're not going to let this happen in our country. All run by liberal Democrats,

Gee, it seems pretty obvious that his intention is to militarize political differences.  All we need him to do now is dress them in brown shirts.

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#10 2020-07-23 21:34:46

SLATE: Why Trump Chose Portland | Violent, reckless federal forces have a friend in the city’s police.

The PPB’s history of undue violence, which has bred distrust in the communities it’s supposed to protect, extends beyond political demonstrations. Like many police forces, the PPB has a history of officers killing Black people with impunity—including 21-year-old Kendra James, who was killed during a 2003 traffic stop, and 17-year-old Quanice Hayes, who was gunned down while kneeling in 2017. (Black people, who make up about 6 percent of the Portland population, also make up a disproportionate number of those stopped by police and targeted by uses of force.) When the police chief banned chokeholds in 1985 after officers killed a Black man with the hold, officers made T-shirts that said, “Don’t Choke ’Em. Smoke ’Em.” In 2012, the Justice Department reported that the PPB had an unconstitutional “pattern or practice” of using excessive force against people with mental illnesses and has maintained oversight of the PPB since a settlement agreement in 2014. Earlier this year, the DOJ announced that the PPB was finally in compliance with all the requirements of the settlement agreement, though then­–police Chief Jami Resch admitted that officers are still shooting people with mental illnesses and will likely continue to do so. “We’re killing more people today with mental health issues by the Portland Police than we did before the DOJ came to town,” Hardesty told Rolling Stone.

In its abuses at protests, the PPB has not targeted demonstrators equally across ideological lines. As alt-right groups emboldened by Donald Trump have gathered in numbers in a state with deep roots in white supremacist organizing, the PPB has been seen as sympathetic to those organizations. A series of friendly text messages sent in 2017 and 2018 showed Lt. Jeff Niiya, the head of the PPB unit that addresses protests, giving protest tips to the leader of the alt-right Patriot Prayer group and congratulating him on his bid for public office. When right- and left-wing groups faced off in 2018, demonstrators observed that police officers faced the left-wing groups and kept their backs toward the right-wingers, though police had found Patriot Prayer members with a cache of weapons on the roof of a parking garage before the protest. (The bureau didn’t inform the mayor of the bust for months.)

The recent clashes are deeply enmeshed in the state’s history. “Oregon really was settled as a white homeland, and that’s why the skinhead groups and the white supremacists, the active white racists, are so strong here,” said Karen Gibson, a Portland State University professor who has studied the Portland police’s history with Black communities. “They’re still quite active here, and this is related to Trump’s whole agenda of reasserting white supremacy,” she said. Since the early 1900s, Portland has also been home to a formidable “strain of revolutionary white folks,” including antifascist and anarchist organizers.

According to activists, the makeup of the PPB is key to its antagonistic relationship with many Portland communities. The force is even more white and less Black than the Portland population, and the Portland Mercury reported in 2018 that just 18 percent of Portland officers live in the city they police. “Growing up in Oregon, in a place that’s 90 percent white, it’s only if you live in the city that you’re going to get exposed to and have experience with Black people and brown people,” Gibson said of the backgrounds of Portland cops. “And you can live in the city on the southern side of town and it’s still nearly 90 percent white. What it means is that [these] whites are unexposed to and unfamiliar with Black culture and Black people.”

LATE EDIT: I'm sorry I fucked up the html to highlight the title, but it's been a while since I've been here.

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#11 2020-07-24 00:31:51

Long time, no see!  I think I fixed the link.  The "Preview" function is useful...

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#13 2020-07-27 15:15:15

Well, the people who actually are attending from BLM consider him a non-player as he is in bed with the city and the police, so he can't lead on this as he is not out there, has never attended a rally of BLM at all, so really he can just STFU according to those who laying their lives on the line, and the BLM people aren't making co-option noises like this guy is. They are happy to have the support.

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#14 2020-07-27 16:09:22

SpacePuppy wrote:

Well, the people who actually are attending from BLM consider him a non-player as he is in bed with the city and the police, so he can't lead on this as he is not out there, has never attended a rally of BLM at all, so really he can just STFU according to those who laying their lives on the line, and the BLM people aren't making co-option noises like this guy is. They are happy to have the support.

Sorry, too many pronouns here for me.  Are you saying that Mondainé is "him, he, and this guy"?

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#15 2020-07-27 19:50:55

Baywolfe wrote:

SpacePuppy wrote:

Well, the people who actually are attending from BLM consider him a non-player as he is in bed with the city and the police, so he can't lead on this as he is not out there, has never attended a rally of BLM at all, so really he can just STFU according to those who laying their lives on the line, and the BLM people aren't making co-option noises like this guy is. They are happy to have the support.

Sorry, too many pronouns here for me.  Are you saying that Mondainé is "him, he, and this guy"?

Sorry lack of stimulants.  The NAACP preacher, yep.

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#16 2020-07-29 00:17:08

ESQUIRE: The President* Wants Chaos and Disunion. Don't Give It to Him.

It’s time for folks to stop hurling themselves mindlessly into the face of faceless law-enforcement. Undisciplined resistance to undisciplined force is a shortcut to incoherent violence for its own sake.

It also leaves your own side vulnerable to agents provocateur.

[...]

Don’t Be A Sucker is an important political principle.

[...]

We live in a time in which the President* of the United States wants chaos and disunion. Don’t give it to him.

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#17 2020-07-29 12:19:53

AladdinSane wrote:

ESQUIRE: The President* Wants Chaos and Disunion. Don't Give It to Him.

It’s time for folks to stop hurling themselves mindlessly into the face of faceless law-enforcement. Undisciplined resistance to undisciplined force is a shortcut to incoherent violence for its own sake.

It also leaves your own side vulnerable to agents provocateur.

[...]

Don’t Be A Sucker is an important political principle.

[...]

We live in a time in which the President* of the United States wants chaos and disunion. Don’t give it to him.

Great Article.  Thanks for posting.

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#18 2020-07-29 17:40:35

The revolution will not be televised.

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#19 2020-07-30 08:35:33

Baywolfe wrote:

The revolution will not be televised.

Well that's most inconvenient, I was hoping to binge it along with Last Kingdom and whatever Johnny Depp should've been in until he shit the bed.

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#20 2020-07-30 23:59:14

It was bound to happen:

NEW YORK POST: Portland Wall of Moms group accused of ‘anti-blackness’ by other advocates

But Don’t Shoot PDX said that move made it clear Wall of Moms was “not started for BLM, but to get the feds out of PDX [Portland].”

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#21 2020-07-31 00:18:25

AladdinSane wrote:

It was bound to happen:

NEW YORK POST: Portland Wall of Moms group accused of ‘anti-blackness’ by other advocates

But Don’t Shoot PDX said that move made it clear Wall of Moms was “not started for BLM, but to get the feds out of PDX [Portland].”

NY Post.  Meh.

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#22 2020-07-31 15:46:47

Remember, remember:  Every Vote Counts! 

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#23 2020-07-31 17:33:13

JetRx wrote:

Remember, remember:  Every Vote Counts! 

Here in Oregon, you can drop your ballot off rather than mail it.  Worked since 2000. Also remember that at this point ThinSkin 45 has been shitting down the throat of the P.O., oh wait, that would be the whole Republican party since Reagan, to be fair but Invisibleforskin has upped the anti recently, to muddy the water for this vote.

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#24 2020-07-31 19:08:29

Texas has a month of early voting.  We wait to the second week and go over the library.  There's usually five people or less there.

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#25 2020-08-01 03:25:46

SpacePuppy wrote:

JetRx wrote:

Remember, remember:  Every Vote Counts! 

Here in Oregon, you can drop your ballot off rather than mail it.  Worked since 2000. Also remember that at this point ThinSkin 45 has been shitting down the throat of the P.O., oh wait, that would be the whole Republican party since Reagan, to be fair but Invisibleforskin has upped the anti recently, to muddy the water for this vote.

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If one believes voting is important, one should make the effort to show up.
"Alternative" means are readily afforded those few "exceptional" citizens finding themselves unable to appear in person.
Infantilizing the process = joke.

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#26 2020-08-01 06:32:50

"One should make the effort" and "[i]nfantilizing" - now that is a weak, hidebound argument if I ever heard one.  If there are real arguments against voting by mail, let's hear them.

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