It is true.

Astrology is the only consistently accurate thing I've ever seen.

I've asked many times over the years, but I want another roll call.

Everybody shout out their sign. I'm a Sagittarius (shocking, I know).

If anyone doubts the first thing I just said, I will provide a free chart to shut them up.

Perhaps the trends in personality observed by astrologers are due to more local and mundane factors as opposed to the mystical influence of very distant objects.  Cancer/Leo

sofaking wrote:

I'm not talking about Jeanne Dixon's newspaper shit. A person's horoscope is more involved than just their sun sign.

I'm talking about a natal chart that uses your date, time, and place of birth to compare to current transits, or compare to another person, place or entity, which is called synastry. I have been doing it since I was 12, before there were computer programs to do the calculations for me.

Most of those studies on the linked page were done with natal charts.

...and Scotty's a chiropractor, isn't he?  That's not exactly high up on my list of scientifically credible professions.  (They have value for treatment of certain skeletal/muscular injuries, but so does a good massage therapist.  The rest of their disease-fighting/well-being-generating claims are specious at best.)

In the interest of Science, however, I am willing to entertain an experiment.  PM me with the info you need, and I'll PM it back to you (with the stipulation that you don't reveal any of said personal information to anyone else).  Do my chart thingy and send it to me, I'll strip any identifying info out and post it here along with my commentary.

....but first I'd like to see you take a guess at my sign.

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jesusluvspegging wrote:

sofaking wrote:

I'm not talking about Jeanne Dixon's newspaper shit. A person's horoscope is more involved than just their sun sign.

I'm talking about a natal chart that uses your date, time, and place of birth to compare to current transits, or compare to another person, place or entity, which is called synastry. I have been doing it since I was 12, before there were computer programs to do the calculations for me.

Most of those studies on the linked page were done with natal charts.

...and Scotty's a chiropractor, isn't he?  That's not exactly high up on my list of scientifically credible professions.  (They have value for treatment of certain skeletal/muscular injuries, but so does a good massage therapist.  The rest of their disease-fighting/well-being-generating claims are specious at best.)

In the interest of Science, however, I am willing to entertain an experiment.  PM me with the info you need, and I'll PM it back to you (with the stipulation that you don't reveal any of said personal information to anyone else).  Do my chart thingy and send it to me, I'll strip any identifying info out and post it here along with my commentary.

Hokay.

If you're an axe murderer or a pedosmile, I won't be able to process your request.

I think you're probably an okay guy IRL, so that hopefully won't be an issue.

Check your PM in a couple of minutes.

jesusluvspegging wrote:

Guess my sign.  Guess.

I can only do that if I can see a picture of you.

I picked out Dhal's sign long ago (and he doesn't believe, either!).

You can ask Mr. Sofie - I approach people all the time, and am usually right about their sign. It freaks people out.

jesusluvspegging wrote:

sofaking wrote:

jesusluvspegging wrote:

Guess my sign.  Guess.

I can only do that if I can see a picture of you.

I picked out Dhal's sign long ago (and he doesn't believe, either!).

You can ask Mr. Sofie - I approach people all the time, and am usually right about their sign. It freaks people out.

Come on.  You've got a 1/12 chance of getting it right, worst case.  We accept that you don't have a picture to work from, and that this will impact your accuracy.  Take a stab at it.

Nope.

I'm not a quack, Jesus.

It is what it is what it is.

You know...electricity works whether you believe in it it or not, too.

jesusluvspegging wrote:

sofaking wrote:

jesusluvspegging wrote:

Guess my sign.  Guess.

I can only do that if I can see a picture of you.

I picked out Dhal's sign long ago (and he doesn't believe, either!).

You can ask Mr. Sofie - I approach people all the time, and am usually right about their sign. It freaks people out.

Come on.  You've got a 1/12 chance of getting it right, worst case.  We accept that you don't have a picture to work from, and that this will impact your accuracy.  Take a stab at it.

I also picked out Dirck from a picture, too, but he was easy, because we're the same sign.

orangeplus wrote:

Ok sofie, you've seen pics of me, what's my sign?

Closed.

Kidding.

Gimme your info. I just did Jesus's, and gave him mine to compare.

For fuck's sake, I'm not clarivoyant!

If I had to guess, I'd say Pisces/Aries cusp.

And I'm probably wrong.

jesusluvspegging wrote:

Guess my sign.  Guess.

Slippery When Wet? Either that or Gas Food Lodging....

phreddy wrote:

This is a detailed and well-conceived theory that posits the story of Jesus is actually an allegory representing the sun's annual course through the astrologic constellations.

So is this:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid … 7743189197

Decadence wrote:

Phred wrote:

This is a detailed and well-conceived theory that posits the story of Jesus is actually an allegory representing the sun's annual course through the astrologic constellations.

The entire story is "ripped" from old Pagean tales.  We've dis-cussed this be-fore.

Wooden Jesus wrote:

In the interest of Science, however, I am willing to entertain an experiment.

How dare you question astrology, you blasphemer!

Sofie wrote:

I also picked out Dirck from a picture, too . . .

Not the one where he dressed his phallus up in doll's clothing, I hope.

And, Sofie, if you still have my charting by any chance, I'd love to have an-other copy as I lost mine with the old hard-drive.

I can make you another one, mah Leo lovey.

Gimme your info, and I do it for yooooou.

Decadence wrote:

Sofie wrote:

I can make you another one, mah Leo lovey.

Gimme your info, and I do it for yooooou.

Thanks, Love.  I'll "PM" it.

And I'll zip it back via MySpace.

I hafta find a carrier for a couple of cars, so it might be a minute.

Please, fools. There is nothing in the New Testament that isn't allegory, either written hundreds of years after the fact or invented by purported disciples, with all of their personal or dissenting opinion removed as apocrypha. The Old Testament isn't precisely a historical record, either. Astrology is just a different way of looking at the same thing. It assigns meaning to events, correlating them to stars and planets that people of that age knew nothing about, and decides there should be significance beyond the prophecies that already existed at the time.

Let's all observe the Mayan calendar and presume we'll die in 2012. It will make all this biblical nonsense far more palatable. We'll be able to shout from the rooftops how wrong it is, as the earth cracks in half and the moon crashes into us. Yawn.

pALEPHx wrote:

Let's all observe the Mayan calendar and presume we'll die in 2012. It will make all this biblical nonsense far more palatable. We'll be able to shout from the rooftops how wrong it is, as the earth cracks in half and the moon crashes into us. Yawn.

But, but, but.....what happens if the Mayans were wrong?

sofaking wrote:

Dmtdust wrote:

Guess Me!  Guess ME!

Scorpio.

Nah.  Virgo Sun. Libra Moon, Cancer Rising.  The perfect degenerate.

sofaking wrote:

Dmtdust wrote:

sofaking wrote:

Scorpio.

Nah.  Virgo Sun. Libra Moon, Cancer Rising.  The perfect degenerate.

But...you love the sechs and the drugs and the rock and roll so much. Very Scorpionic.

You're the only one I've ventured to guess that I've been wrong at.

I have Cancer rising, too.

Nurture, not Nature.  or maybe just plain Nature.  Heh.

phreddy wrote:

Scotty wrote:

But, but, but.....what happens if the Mayans were wrong?

I say let's take no chances and start cutting out the hearts of all non-believers.

Gimmie that old time religion...

karenw wrote:

Sofie, I've been wondering lately -- my birthday this year is 09/09/09. Any significance, or just a quirk of the calendar?

Just a quirk.

That day looks okay.

sofaking wrote:

That day looks okay.

Um, how do I read this? Kthxbai.

Leo. And I think it's all horseshit, but whatever. What do I know, really?

icangetyouatoe wrote:

Leo. And I think it's all horseshit, but whatever. What do I know, really?

And I think the Bible and Jesus are bullshit. Astrology has given me much more practical help and personal insight than any invisible Skydaddy ever has.

I have a fantastic track record helping people who feel forever in my debt for giving them help for the want of NOTHING. I also have a perfectly compatible lifelong relationship thanks to astrology.

Next time you're throwing coins into the collection box at church, think about the fact that my full-of-shit heathen ass would help you for free.

Let me preface this with saying that I am not a follower of Astrology, but I don't discount it out of hand either.  Carl Jung used it (to great effect), and I have seen regressive charts (if that is the term now) that were used in double blind circumstances that layed out certain events in individual lives to an un-canny precision.  How did I know this?  My birth data was sent to Dane Rudhyar when I was in my late teens and in ample trouble at that time.  Dane took on my chart due to the anomaly's in place of birth (near, very near to the arctic circle and all that)... which at those times were hard to handle mathematically for traditional astrologers.  He was able to do a regressive chart and he nailed all kinds of things accurately.  It gave me the creeps at that time when I read his analysis.  How did the bastard know that?  I had never told a soul etc....  His work helped me get out of a jam and for that I am eternally grateful.  I was looking at serious time in juvenile, and then adult prison.  His work pointed out a pathway to maneuver me out of the focus of the machine.

What I don't understand is this:  How it works, and why people dismiss it out of hand in a knee-jerk reaction.  If you haven't investigated it thoroughly, how can you dismiss it?

I think the problem for basically any faith or belief system is there's so much misinformation and garbage espoused by freaks that the real stuff, the cool stuff, gets hidden behind it. So hat's off, Sofie. What do you charge for a chart?

What information do I give you? Do I email you? Email me!