"Just started"???? They have been putting evil stuff into cigs for decades. Burn modifiers, humidity controllers, flavor enhancers, various and assorted glycols, even talk of fiberglass, though that is probably an urban legend. Not to mention the residual pesticides, bird shit and all the rest. Tobacco leaves are never washed before curing, just remember that.

Weed is treated much better on the way to your lungs.

Fixed.

I'm down to 2-3 light cigarettes a day, and a pack lasts me almost a whole week.

I can't quit altogether. I just can't.

I would kill people.

square wrote:

"The cigarette is the most lethal, toxic product in the marketplace," Connolly said. Fire-safe cigarettes, he said, are "no more or less lethal."

Gee and I thought bullets were the most lethal - after all the kill immediately 20% of time that the first enter the body.  With ciggies you have to wait decades if your lucky but usually never before you die...

Fuck them.  For years, they made FIRE UNSAFE cigarettes.  To increase sales, cigs were designed to keep burning, even when un-smoked.  However, hand rolled tobacco often goes out if unattended, and can be relit with no nasty taste.

phoQ wrote:

For years, they made FIRE UNSAFE cigarettes.  To increase sales, cigs were designed to keep burning, even when un-smoked.

But if they came up with these 70 years ago, Lt. Dunbar wouldn't have been able to blow up that German ammunition train.  Why do you hate America?

Pale wrote:

A minor aside, perhaps: Before I started working at [the current company] they had instituted a non-smoking policy just a month before. No smoking is allowed on the property, anywhere (they formerly had a designated area), not even in your own car in the lot.

You know, for years, I stood up for the "rights of faggots."  Where in the fuck are you all now that we are the op-pressed?

Decadence wrote:

Pale wrote:

A minor aside, perhaps: Before I started working at [the current company] they had instituted a non-smoking policy just a month before. No smoking is allowed on the property, anywhere (they formerly had a designated area), not even in your own car in the lot.

You know, for years, I stood up for the "rights of faggots."  Where in the fuck are you all now that we are the op-pressed?

I would fight for you all, as I almost always have. Faggot-specific crap was restricted to my early twenties. After that, I actually cared that straight people existed. It's so much easier to call it all 'human' rights, now. Basically, if *I* expect something, then I am not limiting it to folks of my orientation.

sofaking wrote:

pALEPHx wrote:

A minor aside, perhaps: Before I started working at [the current company] they had instituted a non-smoking policy just a month before. No smoking is allowed on the property, anywhere (they formerly had a designated area), not even in your own car in the lot. In an interesting progression of events, they recently offered ten weeks of any anti-smoking regimen permanent employees desired (I'm contract, and have no access to it). Basically, they'll provide the patch, lozenges, Wellbutrin, or whatever, free of charge.

It's not like I can possibly escape the knowledge that it's a "bad habit," and even wish the program was available to me but, as far as I'm concerned, they're getting a little draconian when it comes to short-term health outcomes. They barely employ people for an average of three years or more. Unless they're taking on a two-pack-a-day smoker at age fifty, then they really run little risk of impacting their benefits outlook.

Some higher-up, somewhere, got on a mission, and this is how it trickles down to the peons.

When I had to sell convention space and catering services, I would refrain from smoking ALL DAY LONG, because I am the first one to admit that it smells disgusting to nonsmokers.

That said, if you're not trying to manipulate people face to face for a living, you should get to have a cigarette at break.

I've never been a smoker, but I've always liked to go out for cigarette breaks with the smokers anyway.

Taint wrote:

tojo2000 wrote:

I've never been a smoker, but I've always liked to go out for cigarette breaks with the smokers anyway.

As a non-smoker, I've never had any qualms about taking a non-smoke break. Hell, if everyone else gets to drop what they're doing to smoke a cigarette, I'll follow them out to the smoking space and enjoy that five or ten minutes along with them.

Well, it would be nice, one day, to be free of this last bit of slavery. As averse to being unemployed for months, I now smoke far less, in accordance with my breaks, and such. Had I the "company plan" available to me, I would have seriously considered it, despite the fact that the gal across from me is prominently wearing her patch and still showing up outside.

I will never argue that it's a deadly, awful habit that everyone can smell like a floating curse. I still think back to when I began and how people regarded my mere existence as filthy, unacceptable, and corrupt. Trust me, giving into their worst expectations made a lot more than cigarettes easily dismissible.

Emmeran wrote:

karenw wrote:

The hubby rolls his own from organic tobacco. I've resisted smoking them because the taste is kind of funky. But I can't fathom the thought of quitting . . . grrrrrrr.

Where do you get said Organic Tobacco

Just looked at the can . . . sorry, my bad -- it says "All-Natural" tobacco. But according to their website, they encourage their farmers to grow organically, and they do sell organic ready-made ciggies.

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