#2 2009-09-02 13:43:59
Although I agree with much of what he says, I have little sympathy for his generation, which blames the boomers for its own lack of an identity. It must be a bitch belonging to one of the generations to follow those of us who have already taken everything of any importance to the max.
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#3 2009-09-02 13:48:22
Deluded and self absorbed sheeple have afflicted every generation since we climbed out of the trees. Isn't pinning that tail on boomers again is like trying to claim the invention of sex?
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#4 2009-09-02 15:33:06
phreddy wrote:
Although I agree with much of what he says, I have little sympathy for his generation, which blames the boomers for its own lack of an identity.
Not that I fall into that whiny who am I crowd but it is kinda hard to establish an identity when your parents(read:boomers) were so hands off on your upbringing because they didn't want to stifle you that Gen-X and Y have become listless ships still searching for an anchor.
I just want to know who we can blame for hipsters. I'd vote for universal healthcare as long as those who gave us hipsters were denied at every fucking turn.
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#5 2009-09-02 15:53:20
eh??? The boomers were simply the first generation to be able to play it up for the mass-media; they were the window dressing on the change but far from being the catalyst itself. Nothing changed and they changed nothing - but hey, it makes a good story....
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#6 2009-09-02 16:15:40
Scotty wrote:
I just want to know who we can blame for hipsters. I'd vote for universal healthcare as long as those who gave us hipsters were denied at every fucking turn.
I really have to get out of San Francisco more often. I had just assumed they were a local affliction. I had no idea it had spread.
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#7 2009-09-02 19:47:50
The author need to gargle some unicorn semen. That's all I've got to say about that.
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#8 2009-09-02 20:37:59
Taint wrote:
Scotty wrote:
I just want to know who we can blame for hipsters. I'd vote for universal healthcare as long as those who gave us hipsters were denied at every fucking turn.
I really have to get out of San Francisco more often. I had just assumed they were a local affliction. I had no idea it had spread.
Apparently Williamsburg, NY is their capital.
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#9 2009-09-02 20:53:12
Hey, now, let's be thankful for the hipsters. At long last, the counterculture AND street fashion have been killed dead. Long live the post-ironic age! Down with meaning! Down with passion!
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#10 2009-09-02 20:57:46
jesusluvspegging wrote:
Hey, now, let's be thankful for the hipsters. At long last, the counterculture AND street fashion have been killed dead. Long live the post-ironic age! Down with meaning! Down with passion!
How can you say today's youth lack meaning, passion and irony?? Their anarchistic, anti-globalism demonstrations are not only better done they are global...
The hippies only wish they did as many drugs, had as much sex or had such a meaningful cause...
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#11 2009-09-02 21:54:31
I love how a generation of do nothings apparently over shadowed a generation with no identity. Or do they have no identity?. BTW, the median age of the crooked money dealers, the Wall Street brokers, the real estate speculators and their ilk make them Gen-X'ers and Y'ers not Boomers. What the Boomers gave to the next couple generations was a need to feel entitled to everything. A lack of ethics and a stronger need for power and wealth over caring and concern for others. And in the end we are all paying for that.
All because they taught us that "love is the answer" (Todd Rundgren). And many ignored that.
Funny though. Who are the majority group that is holding up healthcare reform? Senior citizens. The same group that said "All You Need is Love" in the 60's. Feel the compassion pour over you.
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#12 2009-09-02 22:03:54
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#13 2009-09-02 22:11:26
doesyourpussyhurt wrote:
the median age of the crooked money dealers, the Wall Street brokers, the real estate speculators and their ilk make them Gen-X'ers and Y'ers not Boomers.
Nice try - the 'baby-boomers', aka 'the hippies' - are in charge now. Both in politics and in business (also at the SEC). The decisions to pursue risk and set compensation were not made by Gen X/Y - the greed level was determined by the boomers; shall we start listing the names? We can start with Madoff and I have 200 others I can list from there without breaking a sweat.
The boomers would be the generation of self-indulgence not self-sacrifice - that was their parents. Disrepect for the 'man', despising the cops, hating the military - all boomer traits; if the shoe fits - well that means you suck.
Just for fun - the Bush boys are boomers!
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#14 2009-09-02 22:32:01
Emmeran wrote:
[How can you say today's youth lack meaning, passion and irony?? Their anarchistic, anti-globalism demonstrations are not only better done they are global...
And equally as ineffective a load of perambulating bullshit*. Money, on the other hand doesn't talk much, because it inspires actual worship in so many. I love the irony that the "People's Republic" of China has become such a laissez faire plutocratic paradise.
* Like me carrying anti-Vietnam War petitions door-to-door in 1970. Waste of time.
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#15 2009-09-02 22:34:15
One more whiner. Not that I give that much about the 60's, (hey I like the here and now), but if someone else whines and snivels about their lack of limelight, I'll projectile vomit in their face. Quit blaming others for your collective lack of action and talent. The generation coming up in the early 20's and late teens will make mincemeat out of you.
Em, where you around in the 70's? I always have young guys come up to me and tell me how they wished they had lived in the era of my youth. It happens consistently at almost every party It usually deals with sex. And, yes the drug variety is larger now, but I get the same old line again and again. "LSD is not as strong as it was blah blah blah"... I tell them to appreciate the time they live in.
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#16 2009-09-02 22:42:53
Dmtdust wrote:
It usually deals with sex. And, yes the drug variety is larger now, but I get the same old line again and again. "LSD is not as strong as it was blah blah blah"... I tell them to appreciate the time they live in.
ahh sex and drugs haven't changed in a thousand years, the grass is always greener, blah, blah.
The only thing we do know is that in a consumerists society merchandise always cheapens in value while the desire to possess more of that merchandise increases.
but sex and drugs are cheap and easy to come by; always have been.
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#17 2009-09-03 01:13:11
Actually, I really don't understand the longing for any time in the past. Friends I've known since my teens have begun posting old photos from that period of our lives on Facebook, and attending 80s theme parties. I know plenty of boomers who insist they haven't heard a decent piece of music since 1969, and go on about how much more meaningful everything was back then.
Interestingly, it's the old people I know - in their 70s and 80s - who seem to be a little more level headed about nostalgia. I'm with them: you can't change the time you're in (except to leave it) so you might as well enjoy it.
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#18 2009-09-03 01:17:20
There is as much, no frickin' more good music now. You just have to find it. I am not as attached to it, as being older I have more varied interest. Now is now. This is a great time to just be.
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#19 2009-09-03 06:38:36
Dusty is right. There is a lot of good music being played right now. It gets lost in the din of crap that dominates the market, but that's nothing new.
Much like this thread, generalizing about a whole "generation" is unlikely to shed much light. The term itself is inherently vague and prone to stereotyping.
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#20 2009-09-03 09:43:19
Emmeran wrote:
We can start with Madoff and I have 200 others I can list from there without breaking a sweat.
Headquarters Glasgow, United Kingdom
Industry Financial Services
Type Public Company
Status Operating Subsidiary
Company Size 10,001 or more employees
Founded 1986
Website http://www.howellsfamily....
More Barclays Stockbrokers info »
Median Age 35 years
Gender Male 82%
Female 18%
I wasn't talking about the 200 people at the top. We were speaking generalizations and the median age for stockbrokers and the masses of money hungry is around 35 to 40, the same for the population as a whole. Sure, I could name 1,000,000 of these had I the time or the inclination to do so. Far more than the few you could name to back up your opinion. It's easy to find a few names to throw out. But these are the facts. It is also interesting that the genders are so skewed. Not at all inline with the population as a whole.
In the end, I agree with Fled. Speaking in generalizations is a waste of time.
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#21 2009-09-03 10:26:37
Music has never gotten better than dancing around in frock coats and riding boots with a paper plate backdrop.
See?
*rolls eyes*
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#22 2009-09-03 11:26:06
Dmtdust wrote:
There is as much, no frickin' more good music now. You just have to find it. I am not as attached to it, as being older I have more varied interest. Now is now. This is a great time to just be.
I'm with you here Dusty. Historically good music has almost always taken a back seat to commercially produced teen tarts and hunks who can't sing or play, but look good on video. I think the late 60's and 70's were different because good music actually topped the charts and went front and center in culture. During that magical window good bands played the music they wanted to play and the bean counters in the production companies had to shut up and sit down. But it didn't last, and they are back in control. There is no way a pop station today or in the 50's would play a 15 minute song or a whole album with no commercial breaks. The good music is out there, but it has no chance of becoming main stream
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#23 2009-09-03 11:41:53
Internet Radio. It is a wonderland.
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#24 2009-09-03 11:49:03
Dmtdust wrote:
Internet Radio. It is a wonderland.
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Agreed. One of my favorites is Wolfgang's Vault. Bill Graham recorded every concert he produced, and filmed most of them too. The free radio is great.
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#25 2009-09-03 12:46:26
Paradise Radio. Lots of fun, free form. New, old, unusual. I like the trance and electronic stations as well.
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#26 2009-09-03 20:50:46
Taint wrote:
Actually, I really don't understand the longing for any time in the past...Interestingly, it's the old people I know - in their 70s and 80s - who seem to be a little more level headed about nostalgia. I'm with them: you can't change the time you're in (except to leave it) so you might as well enjoy it.
Anyone who wants to turn the clock back by so much as a week, and is not a hetero white male, is just fucking retarded.
[edit] Hell, on second thought, even het white males who want to go back in time are idiots.
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#27 2009-09-04 03:01:22
sofaking wrote:
Music has never gotten better than dancing around in frock coats and riding boots with a paper plate backdrop.
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#28 2009-09-04 03:29:27
This boomer age white male hetero doesn't want to go back in time. There was never an utopia, nor will there ever be one. But forgetting the past (Vietnam) leads to repetition (Iraq).
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#29 2009-09-04 06:41:52
phreddy wrote:
I think the late 60's and 70's were different because good music actually topped the charts and went front and center in culture.
It did but it's hard to imagine the stars will align that way again. Performers had the luxury of fine tuning promising work before live audiences for a year or more before they took it to a studio.
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#30 2009-09-04 13:10:26
sofaking wrote:
Music has never gotten better than dancing around in frock coats and riding boots with a paper plate backdrop.
See?
*rolls eyes*
You're talking about a Portland band here.....
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