#51 2009-09-13 13:57:12
You really are being dense. The benefits that an illegal alien would purchase would be contractual, not statutory. That is, they would not be public benefits. This is current law as well.
"Forcing" them to buy insurance would mean that they would pay for it, and the insurers would pay the benefits to the health care providers. Thus, to the extent it happens, it would relieve the rest of the population from bearing the cost of that service.
Keep straining, Scotty, and maybe you'll squeeze one out.
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#52 2009-09-13 14:02:04
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Scotty - As I said, there is nothing that can be said that will turn the light on for you. Illegal aliens are not covered by and are not eligible for benefits under the proposal. They may be required to purchase insurance, but they are not provided benefits under the proposal. This discussion has moved way past being repetitive.
Had no one thought to add a prevention measure to the bill I could have gone with the idea that Obama had no idea and was telling the absolute truth. But since there had been three votes in committee to block prevention measures it goes without saying the Obama knew the score. Thus he knew it was a prohibition that could not be enforced - so he did not speak truthfully.
Let me repeat myself - we cannot afford to provide preventative care to anybody that bothers to show up on our shores.
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#53 2009-09-13 14:57:02
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#54 2009-09-13 15:04:35
Okay, Emm. If you can explain this medical procedure to me, I'll let the last re-reiteration be yours.
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#55 2009-09-13 16:48:16
Fled wrote:
You really are being dense. The benefits that an illegal alien would purchase would be contractual, not statutory. That is, they would not be public benefits. This is current law as well.
"Forcing" them to buy insurance would mean that they would pay for it, and the insurers would pay the benefits to the health care providers. Thus, to the extent it happens, it would relieve the rest of the population from bearing the cost of that service.
Keep straining, Scotty, and maybe you'll squeeze one out.
Who is being dense? You really are going to sit there and ignore the fact that prior to the bullet points the White House released illegals would have had access to the government option and thus would have been purchasing tax payer subsidized health care?
Again, who is changing the story around?
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#56 2009-09-13 17:48:41
You, Scotty. Give it a rest. I certainly will.
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#57 2009-09-13 23:13:42
So the only comlaints against illegal immigration are "They're going to take the jobs!!!" and "They take advantage of our welfare and entitlement programs!!"...... First off, if someone can do your job better for less money you don't deserve that fucking job. Secondly lets just do away with the welfare and entitlement programs all together and let whoever wants to move here to better their lives move here. I've known a lot of hard working Mexicans that bust their fucking ass for not a lot of money and that's a piss poor racist system. I could care or less if people come here to better their lives and I don't blame them at all. If you lived in a shithole third world country don't you think that you'd try to move somewhere to improve your life? Fuck Obama's healthcare plan and all the other entitlement programs out there, open our borders to whoever wants to improve their lives, do away with taxes and make every transaction voluntary.
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