#1 2010-03-20 23:43:54
I want our conservative members to stand up and be proud, and to own this. What a bunch of dickwads....
http://news.yahoo.com/s/mcclatchy/3457015
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#2 2010-03-20 23:59:38
I just want somebody to explain to me why a bunch of bishops can tell me I don't get health care on account of the dictates of a religion I don't belong to.
For my part, I will submarine any farm bill that doesn't contain language saying that a belief in the afterlife is silly, and the most egregious example of wishful thinking in modern culture.
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#3 2010-03-21 02:22:48
and sooo...
...they finally shed their locust shells and expose their true motivations.
I was wondering how long it would take.
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#4 2010-03-21 04:08:34
This is what happens when you have large crowds of poorly educated people who don't understand government and are fearful for their job security and well-being, being lead about cynics more than happy to manipulate them toward their own ends.
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#5 2010-03-21 05:44:54
Reported by the McClatchy Company...figures.
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#6 2010-03-21 07:22:54
Forti, you always impress.
This goes on and on, but it does paint a pretty good portrait.
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#7 2010-03-21 07:27:14
Fled wrote:
Forti, you always impress.
This goes on and on, but it does paint a pretty good portrait.
I can find idiots and extremists if I interview a few random people out of tens of thousands of gatherers too no matter what the cause was for.
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#8 2010-03-21 08:37:31
Idiocy falls on a spectrum, and the Tea Partiers have the bottom end nailed down. Sure there are fools on the other side, but what you posted doesn't make your point very well.
What the tea partiers have done is to organize a traveling political special olympics.
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#9 2010-03-21 09:50:50
In truth, I think Dusty's topic title gets to the heart of the matter.
The thing about these "tea partiers," time and time again, if you let them ramble a bit (and you have the stomach to listen long enough), you always get to the meat; eventually their words make it clear: There's a jigaboo holding the highest office in the land and they cannot stand this fact, simply cannot live with it. It's pathetic.
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#10 2010-03-21 13:30:29
George Orr wrote:
There's a jigaboo holding the highest office in the land and they cannot stand this fact, simply cannot live with it. It's pathetic.
A jigaboo? Oh my god. Why didn't someone tell me?
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#11 2010-03-21 22:05:10
Taint wrote:
George Orr wrote:
There's a jigaboo holding the highest office in the land and they cannot stand this fact, simply cannot live with it. It's pathetic.
A jigaboo? Oh my god. Why didn't someone tell me?
"Hmm. There's an Ethiopian in the fuel supply."
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#12 2010-03-23 09:57:43
The greatest thing (and the worst thing) about the Tea Partiers is that nobody is in charge. Let me say that again: "Nobody is in charge". That's unique in recent politics. There isn't a Political Action Committee, George Soros, a professional "Community Organizer", a K-street Steering Group or any other responsible adult driving the bus. And so you hear a lot of differing opinions, good and bad. Some nut jobs, some PhDs, some nutjob PhDs. If the news that some percentage of Americans are homophobic and/or racist disturbs you, you gotta get out more. But those people are no more the representatives of the Tea Party movement than Forti's little honey up there is.
Something the Rainbow Family learned a long time ago is that sometimes the complete lack of leadership can be your strongest aspect. You can't cut the head off of an amoeba. You can't start a slander or legal campaign against an organization that has no leadership, incorporation or funds. Just as importantly professional politicians can't jump in front of your parade and pretend to be leading it when it's politically convenient.
Gary Tredeau may say "Tax cuts for almost all American workers" but it certainly didn't feel that way on the tax return I just filed and I don't see a lot of of promise for the future with the Lead Zeppelin that just flew out of the Democrats hanger on Sunday. As one of those poor bastards who is just successful enough with my business not to need a bail out, make enough to pay for a half-assed health care plan for all my employees and contribute to their retirement accounts and still take profits at the end of the year, I am the goose with the golden egg supply and it's hunting season up on Capitol Hill.
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#13 2010-03-23 18:40:34
GooberMcNutly wrote:
As one of those poor bastards who is just successful enough with my business not to need a bail out, make enough to pay for a half-assed health care plan for all my employees and contribute to their retirement accounts and still take profits at the end of the year, I am the goose with the golden egg supply and it's hunting season up on Capitol Hill.
The firm I work for has almost doubled it's workforce in the last year (we're up to 20+ people), and were on track to add another 8 or so this year. Given the current climate that's less likely now.
I'm in a position to see how much money is pissed away by certain federal agencies. I'm a bit conflicted, as it's that very inefficiency which makes my job necessary.
Not to put too fine a point on it, but if you identify yourself as a Democrat or a Republican, you're part of the problem. Solutions are painful and unpopular and so the people get the government they deserve.
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#14 2010-03-23 19:09:15
GooberMcNutly wrote:
The greatest thing (and the worst thing) about the Tea Partiers is that nobody is in charge. Let me say that again: "Nobody is in charge". That's unique in recent politics. There isn't a Political Action Committee, George Soros, a professional "Community Organizer", a K-street Steering Group or any other responsible adult driving the bus. And so you hear a lot of differing opinions, good and bad. Some nut jobs, some PhDs, some nutjob PhDs. If the news that some percentage of Americans are homophobic and/or racist disturbs you, you gotta get out more. But those people are no more the representatives of the Tea Party movement than Forti's little honey up there is.
Something the Rainbow Family learned a long time ago is that sometimes the complete lack of leadership can be your strongest aspect. You can't cut the head off of an amoeba. You can't start a slander or legal campaign against an organization that has no leadership, incorporation or funds. Just as importantly professional politicians can't jump in front of your parade and pretend to be leading it when it's politically convenient.
Gary Tredeau may say "Tax cuts for almost all American workers" but it certainly didn't feel that way on the tax return I just filed and I don't see a lot of of promise for the future with the Lead Zeppelin that just flew out of the Democrats hanger on Sunday. As one of those poor bastards who is just successful enough with my business not to need a bail out, make enough to pay for a half-assed health care plan for all my employees and contribute to their retirement accounts and still take profits at the end of the year, I am the goose with the golden egg supply and it's hunting season up on Capitol Hill.
Goob, you are dead in the sights of the liberals looking to "redistribute the wealth". Obviously, you came by your business by riding on the backs of your slaves employees. Hopefully, we will restore a bit of balance in November and keep Obama's brown shirts and the new and improved IRS from kicking you to death.
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#15 2010-03-23 19:37:11
phreddy wrote:
Goob, you are dead in the sights of the liberals looking to "redistribute the wealth". Obviously, you came by your business by riding on the backs of your slaves employees. Hopefully, we will restore a bit of balance in November and keep Obama's brown shirts and the new and improved IRS from kicking you to death.
It's quite the contest between you and Dusty which is the more ridiculous in their emotive fanaticism. Since this is HS and we're supposed fling shit, I usually ignore it, but let's not mistake it for reasonable discourse. You're both defending a belief system as rigid and capricious as any major religion. Or favorite football team.
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#16 2010-03-23 19:38:44
Ahhh out come the nutters, I wondered how long it would take.
Y'all need to take a deep breath and think for a moment; the health care bill doesn't represent a threat to our properiety at all. If you recall we all ready offered a single payer public system to the highest using group in society; the last quarter of an individuals life is the most expensive medically speaking. That entitlement has existed forever.
What has changed now is relatively insignificant and actually benefits the Insurers more than insuree's. Mandatory coverage of the age group that use the benefits the least increases revenue flow and helps to off-set the baby-boomers impact on Medicare/Medicaid, that's it - that's the nucleus of this bill.
Our true issues as a nation are unfair taxation (particularly in regards to capital gains/losses), over entitlement of public workers/unions, early retirement ages and divisive political mass media (of which the conservatives benefit the most).
The ugly but simple truth is:
1. All income taxed the same regardless of the source (graduated tax retained)
2. Reset public worker benefits; high salaries and a lifelong pension are a bad formula
3. Increase the retirement age to 75 (for all citizens)
4. Enforce existing immigration laws
5. Establish a non-partisian ethics department to rein in the lobbyist
None of that will happen but those changes would have real results, this health bill just shifted the money around a little, but it's still the same money.
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#17 2010-03-23 20:37:12
opsec wrote:
phreddy wrote:
Goob, you are dead in the sights of the liberals looking to "redistribute the wealth". Obviously, you came by your business by riding on the backs of your slaves employees. Hopefully, we will restore a bit of balance in November and keep Obama's brown shirts and the new and improved IRS from kicking you to death.
It's quite the contest between you and Dusty which is the more ridiculous in their emotive fanaticism. Since this is HS and we're supposed fling shit, I usually ignore it, but let's not mistake it for reasonable discourse. You're both defending a belief system as rigid and capricious as any major religion. Or favorite football team.
But I do it for giggles. That is the difference.
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#18 2010-03-23 21:10:18
Dmtdust wrote:
But I do it for giggles. That is the difference.
Remind me to never hire you as a birthday party clown.
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#19 2010-03-23 22:30:11
opsec wrote:
Or favorite football team.
Football Team, Football Team!!!
Go Huskers!!
Everyone else categorically sucks!!!
oh...and "political smack talk" also...
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#20 2010-03-23 22:40:24
opsec wrote:
Dmtdust wrote:
But I do it for giggles. That is the difference.
Remind me to never hire you as a birthday party clown.
I'm just glad I wasn't drinking anything when I read that.
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#21 2010-03-23 22:59:17
Emmeran wrote:
The ugly but simple truth is:
1. All income taxed the same regardless of the source (graduated tax retained)
2. Reset public worker benefits; high salaries and a lifelong pension are a bad formula
3. Increase the retirement age to 75 (for all citizens)
4. Enforce existing immigration laws
5. Establish a non-partisian ethics department to rein in the lobbyist
Now that we have universal health care it is time to tackle and stamp out the elitist mortgage tax deduction.
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/03/23/busin … nted=print
Reuters BreakingViews
The Case for Ending the Mortgage Deduction
By AGNES T. CRANE
Published: March 22, 2010
Mortgages should be made less attractive. That’s one lesson of the recent housing bubble and bust. As long as borrowing seems like the easy road to riches, people will do too much of it. But right now in the United States, the tax code encourages many people to take out big mortgages. That’s why it’s a good idea to put the elimination of the tax deductibility of mortgage interest on the political agenda.
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Ending the mortgage interest deduction might discourage excessive borrowing.
American homeowners can for tax purposes deduct interest on mortgages of up to $1 million. It’s a politically popular arrangement, and the lure of paying a bit less to the government has been an incentive to stretch housing budgets up to, or past, the limit. Even extra cash borrowed under home equity loans can share in the tax largess, whether or not the funds go to home improvement.
Take a married couple spending $400,000 on their home, a bit more than twice the $164,700 median price reported by the National Association of Realtors. The mortgage interest deduction, plus the deduction of property tax, is worth well over $20,000 a year, based on a 20 percent down payment, a 6 percent interest rate, and a 1 percent property tax. That’s an alternative to the $11,400 standard deduction the couple would otherwise be entitled to, but at a 28 percent tax rate, it would still reduce their annual taxes by some $3,000.
And the more the couple borrows, the more they save. A $900,000 home could reduce their taxes by nearly $13,000, assuming a 33 percent tax rate on income.
But not everyone benefits from the mortgage interest tax perk. The gross tax deduction for a married couple in a median home, as measured by the real estate agents’ association, would come to a bit more than $9,000, not enough on its own to make it worthwhile to forgo the standard deduction, which is available to every taxpayer.
The high income needed to take advantage of this tax benefit undercuts the claims of supporters that tax deductibility of mortgage interest promotes home ownership, which almost all Americans seem to assume is a good thing. In fact, it is a distortion in favor of those who need the least help.
The tax logic also encourages families to borrow rather than save. When the personal savings rate is a paltry 3 percent and policy makers are wringing their hands about global imbalances, this is the wrong message to send. Moreover, potential investment is skewed toward housing rather than, say, infrastructure, manufacturing and education.
Economists have been pointing out these distortions for years, but for politicians, advocating the elimination of this deduction is seen as suicidal. One problem is that an immediate elimination would probably pull down house prices, the last thing the already weak housing market needs.
The danger comes from the lower purchasing power that higher taxes would bring. For the couple who used to be able to afford a $400,000 home, the maximum purchase price would fall by 11 percent. The $900,000 home would have to drop about 21 percent in value to offset its owners’ higher tax payments. That sounds like an invitation to open another chapter of the financial crisis.
But even such a big change in tax policy could be phased in slowly enough to avoid disaster. Britain removed the tax advantages of home ownership over a period of 12 years. In the 1990s, the mortgage tax relief rate gradually fell from 25 percent to 10 percent before disappearing completely in 2000.
The British experience teaches another lesson besides the feasibility of a fairer approach to housing tax. Mortgage tax relief ended just as a housing bubble began. Far from slumping, the median British house price rose 145 percent from 2000 to the peak in 2007, according to the Halifax bank.
Higher taxes for mortgage borrowers would not prevent excesses in the United States housing market either. They would need to be complemented by careful controls on lending. But it would be a step in a good direction. As policy makers consider how to reshape this troubled sector of the economy — and the need to raise taxes to shrink an enormous deficit — getting rid of a poorly designed tax incentive is good place to start.
AGNES T. CRANE
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#22 2010-03-23 23:12:45
tl;dr.
It is interesting, though, to watch all the people line up who want their issues addressed next, now that this is finally done. It's been a day, and there's already a queue, with immigration at the front.
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#23 2010-03-23 23:16:18
Johnny_Rotten wrote:
Reuters BreakingViews
The Case for Ending the Mortgage Deduction
By AGNES T. CRANE
Published: March 22, 2010
Mortgages should be made less attractive. That’s one lesson of the recent housing bubble and bust. As long as borrowing seems like the easy road to riches, people will do too much of it. But right now in the United States, the tax code encourages many people to take out big mortgages. That’s why it’s a good idea to put the elimination of the tax deductibility of mortgage interest on the political agenda.
That's all well and good but the deduction is nothing more or less than a discount on the interest rate. You're giving the money to the bank instead of Uncle Sugar. Of course the people who think borrowing is wonderful don't see it that way. They'll always find a reason to borrow too much, it would just be a different reason.
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#24 2010-03-23 23:48:49
Emmeran wrote:
2. Reset public worker benefits; high salaries and a lifelong pension are a bad formula
Just FYI, Em, I get my pay sucking at the public teat and am paid roughly half of what my equivalent in the private sector would get. So, why do I stay on with this gummint job? Because I'm paid well enough to suit me, and the job involves both regulating certain businesses AND helping out the general public, and that last part pays off in ways that are far removed from money (Ayn Rand and her followers are assholes). As far as the first part? I fucking HATE being a cop, but somebody competent has to do it, and has to train the trainees.
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As we all know, there's NEVER any waste, bureaucratic idiocy, favoritism and nepotism, unethical behavior, and such, in the Private Sector. Yeah, you bet.
And for those who hate Big Gummint, I'm pretty sure Big Bidness will fuck over ordinary folks, particularly small local businesses much worse when you get Big Gummint off the backs of Big Bidness. Can you say WalMart?
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#25 2010-03-23 23:56:49
sigmoid freud wrote:
Emmeran wrote:
2. Reset public worker benefits; high salaries and a lifelong pension are a bad formula
Just FYI, Em, I get my pay sucking at the public teat and am paid roughly half of what my equivalent in the private sector would get. So, why do I stay on with this gummint job? Because I'm paid well enough to suit me, and the job involves both regulating certain businesses AND helping out the general public, and that last part pays off in ways that are far removed from money (Ayn Rand and her followers are assholes). As far as the first part? I fucking HATE being a cop, but somebody competent has to do it, and has to train the trainees.
[rant]
As we all know, there's NEVER any waste, bureaucratic idiocy, favoritism and nepotism, unethical behavior, and such, in the Private Sector. Yeah, you bet.
And for those who hate Big Gummint, I'm pretty sure Big Bidness will fuck over ordinary folks, particularly small local businesses much worse when you get Big Gummint off the backs of Big Bidness. Can you say WalMart?
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As the HS representative of public education, thank you, Siggy! Well put.
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#26 2010-03-24 00:14:16
sigmoid freud wrote:
Emmeran wrote:
2. Reset public worker benefits; high salaries and a lifelong pension are a bad formula
Just FYI, Em, I get my pay sucking at the public teat and am paid roughly half of what my equivalent in the private sector would get. So, why do I stay on with this gummint job? Because I'm paid well enough to suit me, and the job involves both regulating certain businesses AND helping out the general public, and that last part pays off in ways that are far removed from money (Ayn Rand and her followers are assholes). As far as the first part? I fucking HATE being a cop, but somebody competent has to do it, and has to train the trainees.
[rant]
As we all know, there's NEVER any waste, bureaucratic idiocy, favoritism and nepotism, unethical behavior, and such, in the Private Sector. Yeah, you bet.
And for those who hate Big Gummint, I'm pretty sure Big Bidness will fuck over ordinary folks, particularly small local businesses much worse when you get Big Gummint off the backs of Big Bidness. Can you say WalMart?
[/rant]
As someone who spends much of his time writing about the excesses of private industry in the food sector, I have little faith in the will of much of the industry to actually do what is best for the public as opposed to lining their own pockets.
I'll take Big Gummint, with plenty of checks and balances in place and revisited from time to time just to make sure, any time.
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#27 2010-03-24 00:20:52
I really wanted a job as a Death Panel representative! I hate the general public and would have been happy to condemn old and disabled people to death from lack of treatment. I also would have enjoyed telling pregnant teenagers they had to get abortions and making arraignments to have their little bastards scraped out. Is there any chance Death Panels will be restored in a future revision of our Socialized Medical Program?
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#28 2010-03-24 00:26:52
Taint wrote:
opsec wrote:
Dmtdust wrote:
But I do it for giggles. That is the difference.
Remind me to never hire you as a birthday party clown.
I'm just glad I wasn't drinking anything when I read that.
Look, it's the conservative's job to be petulant, stick in the mud curmudgeons. They are programmed that way. It is the liberals job to be pushy and jump on the change wagon when ever possible. Face it, that is the way that it has always been.
Just remember, if the Conservatives ever actually got their way in the beginning we would all still have gills and would be avoiding land.
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#29 2010-03-24 00:28:59
fnord wrote:
I really wanted a job as a Death Panel representative! I hate the general public and would have been happy to condemn old and disabled people to death from lack of treatment. I also would have enjoyed telling pregnant teenagers they had to get abortions and making arraignments to have their little bastards scraped out. Is there any chance Death Panels will be restored in a future revision of our Socialized Medical Program?
Scraped out? Shit, fnord, hysterectomy.
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#30 2010-03-24 00:54:28
sigmoid freud wrote:
fnord wrote:
I really wanted a job as a Death Panel representative! I hate the general public and would have been happy to condemn old and disabled people to death from lack of treatment. I also would have enjoyed telling pregnant teenagers they had to get abortions and making arraignments to have their little bastards scraped out. Is there any chance Death Panels will be restored in a future revision of our Socialized Medical Program?
Scraped out? Shit, fnord, hysterectomy.
No, no! If you sterilize them, they won't ever be able to have any more abortions!
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#31 2010-03-24 01:23:06
sigmoid freud wrote:
Emmeran wrote:
2. Reset public worker benefits; high salaries and a lifelong pension are a bad formula
Just FYI, Em, I get my pay sucking at the public teat and am paid roughly half of what my equivalent in the private sector would get. So, why do I stay on with this gummint job? Because I'm paid well enough to suit me, and the job involves both regulating certain businesses AND helping out the general public, and that last part pays off in ways that are far removed from money (Ayn Rand and her followers are assholes). As far as the first part? I fucking HATE being a cop, but somebody competent has to do it, and has to train the trainees.
[rant]
As we all know, there's NEVER any waste, bureaucratic idiocy, favoritism and nepotism, unethical behavior, and such, in the Private Sector. Yeah, you bet.
And for those who hate Big Gummint, I'm pretty sure Big Bidness will fuck over ordinary folks, particularly small local businesses much worse when you get Big Gummint off the backs of Big Bidness. Can you say WalMart?
[/rant]
Obviously you took a job in the wrong state, you should move out here to California.
Oh, by the way, as one who spent the first half of his life in public service... you aren't supposed to being doing it for the money. That is why the pay is supposed to suck, and why we were happy to give pensions (originally).
For the record, if one of my employees suck, I fire that person. I don't have time for waste, fraud or nepotism. You can't honestly tell me you believe we play that way in the cut throat world of Private Equity? Fuck You buddy, I'm only here for the money.
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#32 2010-03-24 01:25:09
George Orr wrote:
No, no! If you sterilize them, they won't ever be able to have any more abortions!
Thank you for the best laugh I've had this week (thus confirming my unfitness to mix with the general population).
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#33 2010-03-24 04:00:18
Emmeran wrote:
For the record, if one of my employees suck, I fire that person. I don't have time for waste, fraud or nepotism.
Well, three cheers for you, and tell that to General Motors.
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#34 2010-03-24 09:15:38
opsec wrote:
Not to put too fine a point on it, but if you identify yourself as a Democrat or a Republican, you're part of the problem.
To paraphrase: I wouldn't belong to any political party that would have me. Organized politics is too much like organized religion or organized crime.
To me, the political parties seem to act more like the Baptists vs the Catholics. At the core they both say they are out to serve their fellow man but the industry is rife with corruption, influence peddling, scandal and mismanaged funds. You are supposed to give them a big chunk of your money to "serve others" but you never really know where it's going or see anybody actually get less poor. Both preach that you have to have faith to see their good works in action but never stop demanding cold hard cash to help it along. Both groups act like their shit don't stink but can find no end of fault with the other group. Both preach the sanctity of life and the belief in free will but would garrote one from the other group if they could get away with it.
I am intrigued by the Tea Partiers mostly because they come from out in left field. Our country has a rich tradition of people massing up to address grievances to the government and making real change. From the Bonus Army to the desegregation marches, sometimes it becomes necessary to warm up the torches and sharpen the pitchforks, if for no other reason than to get the attention of the legislature. I just look around and notice that we have recently passed the milestone in this country where nearly half of people no longer pay any federal income tax, the major source of income for the government. When you don't have to pay, voting to spend "public money" doesn't hurt you and has a pure benefit, so why show self restraint? It's a dangerous inflection point and one that no government has ever been able to recover from. Sure, you can troll the Tea Partiers and find bigots, homophobes, religious nutjobs and whole platoons of the tinfoil hat brigade. But that is just mud flinging to try to prevent the real message from getting through: The government is morbidly obese and growing faster every day and the best way to cure the disease is to get it on a diet, quickly. The alternative is to wait until it gets so fat it suffers from a seizure and keels over, leaving anarchy in it's place.
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#35 2010-03-24 09:21:44
Emmeran wrote:
Ahhh out come the nutters, I wondered how long it would take.
Did someone say "nutters"? 
'Tis the season in Florida!
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#36 2010-03-24 13:22:09
GooberMcNutly wrote:
I am intrigued by the Tea Partiers mostly because they come from out in left field. Our country has a rich tradition of people massing up to address grievances to the government and making real change.
That is exactly why I am revolted by them, they didn't come out of left field - they came straight from the Palin Rally's where they were screaming "Lynch him".
They didn't seem to mind bloated government and runaway spending when Bush was in office; and they really didn't get going until Rush provided the idea and poured fuel on it every day. This is Rush's & Palin's mob, drummed up by him and hating everyone they can find.
The best part is that neither Rush or Palin give a fuck, they are just doing this to make money.
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#37 2010-03-25 00:05:22
Emmeran wrote:
The best part is that neither Rush or Palin give a fuck, they are just doing this to make money.
Ya really think so?
Yet her show won't come cheap. The former governor's asking price was $1.2 million per episode. A network paying anywhere close to that figure would make "Alaska" one of the most expensive nature series ever produced.
People laughed at me when I said Palin would make 40 m within 2 years after her defeat.
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#38 2010-03-25 00:20:25
Johnny_Rotten wrote:
People laughed at me when I said Palin would make 40 m within 2 years after her defeat.
I'm behind this TV thing one hundred percent. It will keep her out of public office. Bonus: with my new whizbang DVR dee-vice, I can block her out of my life completely.
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#39 2010-03-25 10:13:40
Emmeran wrote:
GooberMcNutly wrote:
I am intrigued by the Tea Partiers mostly because they come from out in left field. Our country has a rich tradition of people massing up to address grievances to the government and making real change.
That is exactly why I am revolted by them, they didn't come out of left field - they came straight from the Palin Rally's where they were screaming "Lynch him".
They didn't seem to mind bloated government and runaway spending when Bush was in office; and they really didn't get going until Rush provided the idea and poured fuel on it every day. This is Rush's & Palin's mob, drummed up by him and hating everyone they can find.
The best part is that neither Rush or Palin give a fuck, they are just doing this to make money.
I disagree. If you try to take the 9 O'Clock news approach of finding a 30 second answer to anything, that's the answer that you will come up with. And let's say that 10% of the mob came from there. Who do you think is going to be on the nightly news?
But I think that the real answer is much more chaotic than that? You ever been to a Tea Party rally? It's like Animal House meets a Berkshire Hathaway shareholders meeting. It's half rambling idiotic conspiracy theories and half Milton Friedman fan club. Just because people keep checking the lighting fixtures for bugs and talk about their bug-out cabins in the woods with a years worth of food stockpiled away doesn't mean that they haven't gotten a good grounding in tax theory and the drivers behind gross domestic product.
I don't agree with everything they say, but that's the genius of it. I don't have to. This isn't some MoveOn.com rally where everyone waves the same professionally printed signs after filing off the George Soros bus.
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#40 2010-03-25 11:08:14
opsec wrote:
phreddy wrote:
Goob, you are dead in the sights of the liberals looking to "redistribute the wealth". Obviously, you came by your business by riding on the backs of your slaves employees. Hopefully, we will restore a bit of balance in November and keep Obama's brown shirts and the new and improved IRS from kicking you to death.
It's quite the contest between you and Dusty which is the more ridiculous in their emotive fanaticism. Since this is HS and we're supposed fling shit, I usually ignore it, but let's not mistake it for reasonable discourse. You're both defending a belief system as rigid and capricious as any major religion. Or favorite football team.
So now we have a glum PC stuffshirt sticking his nose into this exchange. Go referee a little league game where your demand for adherence to the rules sans humor will be appreciated ops. Next time I suggest you look up the meaning of satire before you make a fool of yourself.
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#41 2010-03-25 12:25:38
I so enjoy the personalities here. My hat is off to ya all!
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#42 2010-03-25 17:30:02
Phreddy, that was so satisfying. An ad hominem attack AND a reference to my well known political correctness. I'll assume the latter was satirical. But seriously, if you reread the second sentence of my post, you've basically agreed with me.
Grins at Dusty.
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