doesyourpussyhurt wrote:

I thought it was the Saudi News Agency. (SNA)

http://thinkprogress.org/2010/02/10/rig … s-foxnews/

Dangerous for America or Mexico???

Some people around here need to re-evaluate their position; the world doesn't have, never has had nor ever will have, a shortage of poor unfortunates willing to glam on and leech off of others hard won success.

tojo2000 wrote:

I don't know, Emmeran, why don't you tell us?  What does your crystal supermarket ball say?

It says that you can't save the world Tojo and that you're foolish to even pretend to think that you can; it says that by supporting illegal immigration you are actually perpetuating the misery.

It also says that the road to hell is paved with good intentions.

Fled wrote:

poor unfortunates willing to glam on and leech off of others hard won success


A might over-the-top, no?

Nope - way the fuck over the top.

Fled wrote:

by supporting illegal immigration you are actually perpetuating the misery

Well that's an instance of self-serving, turning the world on its head if I ever read it.  I don't support illegal immigration, and recognize that "open borders" is just not an option.  Still, honesty requires admitting that they are not going to be less "miserable" if they are left in squalor in Honduras, El Salvador, Mexico, etc., 'cause our squalor is a big step up if they find work here.

By providing an economic escape path in our country we are preventing the normal internal pressures that would occur to bring about change in their own countries.  Jose gets a job in America so he isn't marching in the streets back home demanding a job.  So yes, we are perpetuating the misery.

I am fully aware that many of the actions taken by our own government over the years have been less than helpful however this doesn't change the fact that these societies need to pull their heads out of their asses and get with the program.

Emmeran wrote:

tojo2000 wrote:

I don't know, Emmeran, why don't you tell us?  What does your crystal supermarket ball say?

It says that you can't save the world Tojo and that you're foolish to even pretend to think that you can; it says that by supporting illegal immigration you are actually perpetuating the misery.

It also says that the road to hell is paved with good intentions.

I know you can't save the world, but you also can't solve a problem if you don't understand it.  As long as you convince yourself that the problem with illegal immigration is a sea of welfare queens you will continue to prove that you have no idea what the fuck you're talking about.   BTW, I love how you think I'm in an ivory tower casting judgement on you when I point out that you have absolutely no knowledge or experience about what life of an illegal immigrant is like when you're the one who is casting judgement on an entire group of people based off of nothing but your gut.

tojo wrote:

I know you can't save the world, but you also can't solve a problem if you don't understand it.

What is there to understand?  We have a leak in our borders and a river of humanity is pouring in.  How many illegals will be enough?  Fact is, it will never end until we fix the leak.  If by understand you mean commiserate, I do.  Many of these people are just trying to feed their families and they will do whatever is needed to do that.  I would do the same.  However, the U.S. cannot be Daddy for every citizen of every banana republic that cannot control corruption and out of control population growth.  I feel for the people, but we have our own families to protect.

Emmeran wrote:

George Orr wrote:

It's kinda strange to no longer be living in the most fucktarded state in the Union (after South Carolina).

Um...Hi, pALEPHx!  *waves*

Nah, you still do.  AZ is showing more common sense than the rest combiined.

You betcha.

South Carolina is still shittier than AZ, though.