#1 2010-08-31 16:31:12

And can't say I blame 'em. Links to agitprop.

http://breakthematrix.com/latest/monsan … nto-seeds/

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#2 2010-08-31 18:06:31

There are no easy solutions for Haiti ever obtaining food sovereignty or sustainability. But there are sure plenty who are willing to take the money that comes in for aid. Why should Monsanto miss out on the trough? The next time you trip over all those milk crates outside a convenience store just remember that 10000 hired brainiacs could not get a single one in the hands of a Haitian mango farmer.

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#3 2010-08-31 19:10:01

Haiti would appear to be a very unreliable customer for genetically modified seeds, and the additional fertilizer and pesticides they require unless somebody else (American taxpayers perhaps?) cosigned on the contracts to buy them.  I’m far more concerned by this attempt to screw the American taxpayers than I am about the possible damage to the dirt cookie eating spooks of Haiti.

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#4 2010-08-31 20:11:40

Johnny_Rotten wrote:

There are no easy solutions for Haiti ever obtaining food sovereignty or sustainability. But there are sure plenty who are willing to take the money that comes in for aid. Why should Monsanto miss out on the trough? The next time you trip over all those milk crates outside a convenience store just remember that 10000 hired brainiacs could not get a single one in the hands of a Haitian mango farmer.

We always act surprised that we can't deliver something that simple, we read in wonder about the reporters and crew that followed her around without bothering just to give her a fucking crate.

More effort and money is spent trying to record the misery than to alleviate it...

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#5 2010-08-31 20:15:46

choad wrote:

And can't say I blame 'em. Links to agitprop.

http://breakthematrix.com/latest/monsan … nto-seeds/

Shame there isn't a chance in hell we can't force GM seeds to engineered for natural reproduction.

On a side note, I highly recommend "King Korn"

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#6 2010-08-31 22:16:27

Emmeran wrote:

On a side note, I highly recommend "King Korn"

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1112115/

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#7 2010-08-31 22:31:04

Emmeran wrote:

choad wrote:

And can't say I blame 'em. Links to agitprop.

http://breakthematrix.com/latest/monsan … nto-seeds/

Shame there isn't a chance in hell we can't force GM seeds to engineered for natural reproduction.

On a side note, I highly recommend "King Korn"

There are strains of GM seeds that are stable and able to reproduce.  They've been produced by government and private agencies in the past for use in different turd world countries and are partially responsible for the unnecessary growth in the number of turd worlders.  Monsanto is in the business of producing unstable seeds that will also fuck up the reproductive ability of native seed strains in order to make farmers dependent upon Monsanto for seed stock.

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#8 2010-08-31 23:05:48

fnord wrote:

Emmeran wrote:

On a side note, I highly recommend "King Korn"

There are strains of GM seeds that are stable and able to reproduce.  They've been produced by government and private agencies in the past for use in different turd world countries and are partially responsible for the unnecessary growth in the number of turd worlders.  Monsanto is in the business of producing unstable seeds that will also fuck up the reproductive ability of native seed strains in order to make farmers dependent upon Monsanto for seed stock.

Wait....is that license to go kill them?

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#9 2010-08-31 23:21:09

Emmeran wrote:

fnord wrote:

Emmeran wrote:

On a side note, I highly recommend "King Korn"

There are strains of GM seeds that are stable and able to reproduce.  They've been produced by government and private agencies in the past for use in different turd world countries and are partially responsible for the unnecessary growth in the number of turd worlders.  Monsanto is in the business of producing unstable seeds that will also fuck up the reproductive ability of native seed strains in order to make farmers dependent upon Monsanto for seed stock.

Wait....is that license to go kill them?

The frankenseeds or Monsanto executives?  Pollen from Monsanto's frankenseed crops drifts into neighboring fields and causes the seeds in these fields to have the wrong number of chromosomes for successful reproduction.  This results in the destruction of native seed strains that are adapted to conditions in the part of the world where they are grown.  When the farmers lose their own strains of seeds, they have no choice to buy seed stock.  And guess who will be there to sell to them?

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#10 2010-08-31 23:27:20

fnord wrote:

Emmeran wrote:

Wait....is that license to go kill them?

The frankenseeds or Monsanto executives?  Pollen from Monsanto's frankenseed crops drifts into neighboring fields and causes the seeds in these fields to have the wrong number of chromosomes for successful reproduction.  This results in the destruction of native seed strains that are adapted to conditions in the part of the world where they are grown.  When the farmers lose their own strains of seeds, they have no choice to buy seed stock.  And guess who will be there to sell to them?

That wasn't an answer.

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#11 2010-09-01 00:03:01

Then I didn't understand the question.  I wasn't suggesting killing the turd worlders; famine, disease, natural disasters, poor governance, and warfare will take care of that.

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#12 2010-09-01 06:13:12

Actually I was referring to the Monsanto exec's; fucking up the food supply is definitely anti-tribe (no matter what color your tribe is)

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#13 2010-09-01 21:29:46

fnord wrote:

I’m far more concerned by this attempt to screw the American taxpayers than I am about the possible damage to the dirt cookie eating spooks of Haiti.

Those images of Haiti's poor eating clay cookies make its dysfunction graphic, don't they? Scan satellite images of the border it shares with the Dominican Republic and notice it's clearly demarcated by green, on the Dominican side, and scoured to brown death in Haiti.

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#14 2010-09-04 19:50:48

In any case, corn can't survive without humans.  Corn (maize, properly) doesn't "shatter", i.e. the seeds don't fall loose. Humans must shuck corn ears and remove and plant the seeds for corn to reproduce - it's a miracle! Why Gawd decided to fuck with evolution and favor the benighted savages of Mesoamerica with maize instead of his favorite white folks in Europe is the real mystery.

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#15 2010-09-05 03:28:37

sigmoid freud wrote:

In any case, corn can't survive without humans.  Corn (maize, properly) doesn't "shatter", i.e. the seeds don't fall loose. Humans must shuck corn ears and remove and plant the seeds for corn to reproduce - it's a miracle!

You sir are an idiot.  Please experience life before you comment.

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#16 2010-09-05 09:40:56

http://www.truth-saves.com/images/corn.jpg
Modern corn does not resemble the natural undomesticated plant that it originated from.  The plant corn originated from still grows wildly, without human assistance. It's not a miracle, it's just selective breeding.

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#17 2010-09-05 09:48:29

Thank you, Smythe; you pointed that out rather better than I was going to.

I realized recently that our grains are actually grasses--kind of a "duh" fact, I know; but it only recently took hold of my mind.  The modern corn plant is a twisted and tortured blade of grass.

This led to the realization that there is no food in my kitchen, or yours--nothing--that has not been genetically modified...unless you've got a piece of fish in there, and they're starting in on that, too.

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#18 2010-09-05 18:08:20

George Orr wrote:

Thank you, Smythe; you pointed that out rather better than I was going to.

I realized recently that our grains are actually grasses--kind of a "duh" fact, I know; but it only recently took hold of my mind.  The modern corn plant is a twisted and tortured blade of grass.

This led to the realization that there is no food in my kitchen, or yours--nothing--that has not been genetically modified...unless you've got a piece of fish in there, and they're starting in on that, too.

I’m OK with this “Frankenfish” as long as it truly is sterile.  It should be obvious that the inevitable escapees from the fish farms would cause an ecological disaster if they were able to reproduce in the wild.  I’m more concerned about animals and plants that are being modified to produce drugs or industrial products such as spider silk proteins.  These organisms usually are not sterile, and it’s inevitable they will cross with relatives intended for the food supply.

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#19 2010-09-05 21:35:19

AquaBounty says they will be raised in inland waters to ensure the modified salmon do not enter the oceans.

The Capitalists assure us that they will be careful and spend every dollar necessary to protect our natural balance; regardless of the effect on their bottom line.


(Que Phreddy)

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#20 2010-09-05 21:43:13

I worked for Pioneer Hi-Bred, the world's largest seed developer, long before it was swallowed by Monsanto and long after it became the most soulless and venal company I've ever encountered. Such are the assholes we trust to manage our food supply and they're worse than the oil companies.

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