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#2 2012-10-08 20:40:43

Did you take Civics class in High School? You can't petition to remove a sitting representative.

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#3 2012-10-08 20:48:55

It is more of a way to register dismay about this asswipe being on said committee.  And, a good way to get attention to said pimple on the body politic.

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#4 2012-10-08 22:47:19

Signing these stupid internet petitions is just giving your information to junk mailers and spammers.  As as Goob pointed out, it doesn't accomplish anything.

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#5 2012-10-09 00:34:20

fnord wrote:

Signing these stupid internet petitions is just giving your information to junk mailers and spammers.  As as Goob pointed out, it doesn't accomplish anything.

Which is why we have junk mail accounts.  More annoying is the auto-support follow on pages.

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#6 2012-10-09 11:52:34

GooberMcNutly wrote:

Did you take Civics class in High School? You can't petition to remove a sitting representative.

The fact there is a petition to do just that refutes your snark.  Of course it's not binding.  Also it's not about about removing a sitting representative, but removing him from a committee.  As this is an appointment, there is no way to do that short of political pressure.   

You seem to suggest that popular opinion is meaningless.

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#7 2012-10-09 15:31:28

opsec wrote:

You seem to suggest that popular opinion is meaningless.

To effect a political appointment of a sitting representative, yes. You don't like him, work on getting him voted out. But you would have to bury the chairman's office in bad news and keep it up for months at a time to effect a change. (Or get some tranny to blow him and keep some evidence...) As all congresscritters are currently in an election recess, nothing is going to get done no matter how ignorant he is or how inappropriate the appointment.

Plus, since when does ANYBODY on the "science" committee have a background in science or technology? Congress is 99% lawyers, MBAs and career politicians. I would be surprised to find out any of them have a degree (non honorary) in hard sciences, engineering or technology.

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#8 2012-10-09 17:40:53

And he's a doctor. I wonder how that whole germ theory thing worked for him.

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#9 2012-10-09 17:47:19

I believe the party leadership appoints members to various committees, so I suppose he could be recalled if enough voters signaled that they thought he was an ignorant poser.  Unfortunately, he was probably elected by like minded fundies.  In the spirit of cooperation, I will agree to throw one ignorant fundy under the bus for every member of the Black Caucus tossed in who believes the white man concocted AIDS to kill blacks.

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#10 2012-10-09 18:14:48

phreddy wrote:

I believe the party leadership appoints members to various committees, so I suppose he could be recalled if enough voters signaled that they thought he was an ignorant poser.  Unfortunately, he was probably elected by like minded fundies.  In the spirit of cooperation, I will agree to throw one ignorant fundy under the bus for every member of the Black Caucus tossed in who believes the white man concocted AIDS to kill blacks.

That's silly. Everyone knows it was a secret CIA plot to kill gays. I mean, come on.

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#11 2012-10-09 18:22:13

phreddy wrote:

believes the white man concocted AIDS to kill blacks.

Silly radical-conservative, we know you created AIDS to kill the gays. It's too late to play the misdirection card now.

Crack cocaine was created to kill the blacks and Chrystal-Meth was created to get rid of the white-trash.

Please keep your conspiracies in order...

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#12 2012-10-10 10:02:15

But what about chem-trails?!?

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#13 2012-10-10 18:06:39

XregnaR wrote:

But what about chem-trails?!?

Those are filed with rods and floating spheres. Wait. Now I'm getting all my conspiracy bullshit confused with occult bullshit.

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#14 2012-10-10 20:40:29

phreddy wrote:

I believe the party leadership appoints members to various committees, so I suppose he could be recalled if enough voters signaled that they thought he was an ignorant poser.  Unfortunately, he was probably elected by like minded fundies.  In the spirit of cooperation, I will agree to throw one ignorant fundy under the bus for every member of the Black Caucus tossed in who believes the white man concocted AIDS to kill blacks.

Here we agree.  Ignorance is has no respect for party. 

Imagine if instead of lawyers, 90% of our elected officials were engineers.  Having worked with many engineers, I'll admit it would be fucked up, but at least it would be differently fucked up.

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#15 2012-10-11 12:27:24

opsec wrote:

Here we agree.  Ignorance is has no respect for party. 

Imagine if instead of lawyers, 90% of our elected officials were engineers.  Having worked with many engineers, I'll admit it would be fucked up, but at least it would be differently fucked up.

You got me thinking with this one.  Which profession would make better legislators than lawyers?  Bean counters are necessary, but a little too myopic.  Engineers could make the trains run on time, but I would have my doubts on their big picture talents.  Salesmen?  Too much big picture.  I am a graduate geographer and, apart from the obvious political conflicts which would follow any law maker, geographers are a pretty savvy group.  At least they understand the geo part of geopolitics.  Maybe experienced journalists or perhaps historians.  Its a little scary to think that any one profession would dominate our congress, but that's what we have.

Any other suggestions for our perfect legislature?

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#16 2012-10-11 12:41:03

phreddy wrote:

opsec wrote:

Here we agree.  Ignorance is has no respect for party. 

Imagine if instead of lawyers, 90% of our elected officials were engineers.  Having worked with many engineers, I'll admit it would be fucked up, but at least it would be differently fucked up.

You got me thinking with this one.  Which profession would make better legislators than lawyers?  Bean counters are necessary, but a little too myopic.  Engineers could make the trains run on time, but I would have my doubts on their big picture talents.  Salesmen?  Too much big picture.  I am a graduate geographer and, apart from the obvious political conflicts which would follow any law maker, geographers are a pretty savvy group.  At least they understand the geo part of geopolitics.  Maybe experienced journalists or perhaps historians.  Its a little scary to think that any one profession would dominate our congress, but that's what we have.

Any other suggestions for our perfect legislature?

Well we are having a sudden surge of military folks show up again, things might change a bit

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#17 2012-10-11 13:17:37

phreddy wrote:

opsec wrote:

Here we agree.  Ignorance is has no respect for party. 

Imagine if instead of lawyers, 90% of our elected officials were engineers.  Having worked with many engineers, I'll admit it would be fucked up, but at least it would be differently fucked up.

You got me thinking with this one.  Which profession would make better legislators than lawyers?  Bean counters are necessary, but a little too myopic.  Engineers could make the trains run on time, but I would have my doubts on their big picture talents.  Salesmen?  Too much big picture.  I am a graduate geographer and, apart from the obvious political conflicts which would follow any law maker, geographers are a pretty savvy group.  At least they understand the geo part of geopolitics.  Maybe experienced journalists or perhaps historians.  Its a little scary to think that any one profession would dominate our congress, but that's what we have.

Any other suggestions for our perfect legislature?

May I suggest chefs? Cooking for crowds, whether they be in restaurants or catered events, requires advance planning, a budget, solid organization, and good timing. The production process requires constant testing to ensure the final product is acceptable. Being able to cook professionally also requires experience in a wide range of techniques. And let's not forget that, if all our politicos were chefs, there'd be tasty snacks at the end of it all.

Otherwise, I'd suggest we put prostitutes in charge.

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#18 2012-10-11 14:09:00

Taint wrote:

Otherwise, I'd suggest we put prostitutes in charge.

I like this.  People generally prefer to get fucked by prostitutes rather than lawyers.

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#19 2012-10-11 14:14:03

XregnaR wrote:

Taint wrote:

Otherwise, I'd suggest we put prostitutes in charge.

I like this.  People generally prefer to get fucked by prostitutes rather than lawyers.

Prostitutes, lawyers, legislators, redundant.

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#20 2012-10-11 14:16:29

Taint wrote:

May I suggest chefs? Cooking for crowds, whether they be in restaurants or catered events, [...]

Otherwise, I'd suggest we put prostitutes in charge.

That's what we have now. Might I suggest more toothsome whoors, std vetted and blow job approved?

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#21 2012-10-11 15:01:45

Emmeran wrote:

Well we are having a sudden surge of military folks show up again, things might change a bit.

Personally, I figure that is not a bad thing.

And something that I remember from high school; chem-trails?!?.

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#22 2012-10-11 19:47:34

Saddest of all was the sudden realization while typing this is that WE could do a far better job at governing, Kathy included. The bureaucracy might suddenly fill up with buxom redheads but that's a risk I'm willing to take.

We already have the tests to tell us who among us are intelligent, wise (which is not the same thing by any means), courageous and honest. Weed out the greedy and the fanatics. Social status, gender, religious preference, sexual orientation, or monetary assets will not be considered.  Find these people and herd them to Washington at gunpoint, if they actually want to go give them a swift kick in the crotch and send them home. After 2 and 4 years, release them. It couldn't turn out much worse than the system we have now.

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#23 2012-10-11 22:43:45

In the interest of transparency I should disclose that I actually support a world dictatorship with myself as world dictator.  It has its disadvantages, but it would certainly simplify things.

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#24 2012-10-12 08:24:37

I, for one, am all for reinstituting the draft. Not for burning families out of their huts in some dank jungle, but for legislating. How much worse could we be if we drafted random citizens for 1 year terms to serve as a kind of "citizens jury" to replace the state legislature and local councils? Sure, a few yahoos would end up in the statehouse, but how is that worse that the yahoos we already have? Pay them twice whatever they declared as income on their previous year's tax return and guarantee that they get their jobs back (if they had one) when they are done.

I'm willing to bet randomness will return a higher caliber of manager than the teat suckers and shysters and nepotists that the job draws to it like moths to a flame.

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#25 2012-10-12 18:49:34

GooberMcNutly wrote:

I, for one, am all for reinstituting the draft. Not for burning families out of their huts in some dank jungle, but for legislating. How much worse could we be if we drafted random citizens for 1 year terms to serve as a kind of "citizens jury" to replace the state legislature and local councils? Sure, a few yahoos would end up in the statehouse, but how is that worse that the yahoos we already have? Pay them twice whatever they declared as income on their previous year's tax return and guarantee that they get their jobs back (if they had one) when they are done.

I'm willing to bet randomness will return a higher caliber of manager than the teat suckers and shysters and nepotists that the job draws to it like moths to a flame.

Ok! Throw in open season on lobbyists and you've got a deal.

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#26 2012-10-13 00:20:20

phreddy wrote:

Any other suggestions for our perfect legislature?

Historians, absolutely!

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#27 2012-10-13 10:24:21

Tall Paul wrote:

Saddest of all was the sudden realization while typing this is that WE could do a far better job at governing, Kathy included. The bureaucracy might suddenly fill up with buxom redheads but that's a risk I'm willing to take.

We already have the tests to tell us who among us are intelligent, wise (which is not the same thing by any means), courageous and honest. Weed out the greedy and the fanatics. Social status, gender, religious preference, sexual orientation, or monetary assets will not be considered.  Find these people and herd them to Washington at gunpoint, if they actually want to go give them a swift kick in the crotch and send them home. After 2 and 4 years, release them. It couldn't turn out much worse than the system we have now.

Seems to me I've read more than one science fiction story that opined the exact same thing.  I think there was an additional clause to tie their net worth to the market but, that was before we started letting corporations rule us.

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#28 2012-10-13 12:54:35

This is all based on the old methods of the Athenian Democracy.  Red Ropes!  Red Ropes!

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#29 2012-10-13 18:18:22

Dmtdust wrote:

This is all based on the old methods of the Athenian Democracy.  Red Ropes!  Red Ropes!

Slaves with red ropes! Slaves with red ropes! (Democracy used to be a much more honest and sensible institution - those with Power voted on the use of their resources. Once slaves were given citizenship and suffrage the vote became a disengenuous exercise, videlicet, a strain-relief for exogenous, improperly assimilated or irrelevant complaint. Power didn't care. Power doesn't sweat the small things - it snickered carelessly and moved out of the way of the zombie hordes, onto the golf course and into the boardroom - excelsior!)

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                                        Introducing the next president of the (grudgingly)-United States!

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#30 2012-10-13 18:59:57

Tall Paul wrote:

Saddest of all was the sudden realization while typing this is that WE could do a far better job at governing, Kathy included. The bureaucracy might suddenly fill up with buxom redheads but that's a risk I'm willing to take.

We already have the tests to tell us who among us are intelligent, wise (which is not the same thing by any means), courageous and honest. Weed out the greedy and the fanatics. Social status, gender, religious preference, sexual orientation, or monetary assets will not be considered.  Find these people and herd them to Washington at gunpoint, if they actually want to go give them a swift kick in the crotch and send them home. After 2 and 4 years, release them. It couldn't turn out much worse than the system we have now.

Gibberish. Not even a valid try you fucking attention whore.

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#31 2012-10-13 19:15:27

Bigcat wrote:

Tall Paul wrote:

Saddest of all was the sudden realization while typing this is that WE could do a far better job at governing, Kathy included. The bureaucracy might suddenly fill up with buxom redheads but that's a risk I'm willing to take.

We already have the tests to tell us who among us are intelligent, wise (which is not the same thing by any means), courageous and honest. Weed out the greedy and the fanatics. Social status, gender, religious preference, sexual orientation, or monetary assets will not be considered.  Find these people and herd them to Washington at gunpoint, if they actually want to go give them a swift kick in the crotch and send them home. After 2 and 4 years, release them. It couldn't turn out much worse than the system we have now.

Gibberish. Not even a valid try you fucking attention whore.

Come up with something better, Skid.

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#32 2012-10-13 19:22:07

Tall Paul wrote:

Bigcat wrote:

Tall Paul wrote:

Saddest of all was the sudden realization while typing this is that WE could do a far better job at governing, Kathy included. The bureaucracy might suddenly fill up with buxom redheads but that's a risk I'm willing to take.

We already have the tests to tell us who among us are intelligent, wise (which is not the same thing by any means), courageous and honest. Weed out the greedy and the fanatics. Social status, gender, religious preference, sexual orientation, or monetary assets will not be considered.  Find these people and herd them to Washington at gunpoint, if they actually want to go give them a swift kick in the crotch and send them home. After 2 and 4 years, release them. It couldn't turn out much worse than the system we have now.

Gibberish. Not even a valid try you fucking attention whore.

Come up with something better, Skid.

I just did.

I am suggesting that you try to string together some non-gibberish thoughts. You only post to see your shit in print and to try to troll for some sort of comraderie- you won't get it here.

If you are that lonely, set up a second email account for yourself and send yourself babbling emails back and forth. You make my tits heavy with your boring lame assed postings.

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#33 2012-10-13 23:54:58

Bigcat wrote:

Tall Paul wrote:

Bigcat wrote:

Gibberish. Not even a valid try you fucking attention whore.

Come up with something better, Skid.

I just did.

I am suggesting that you try to string together some non-gibberish thoughts. You only post to see your shit in print and to try to troll for some sort of comraderie- you won't get it here.

If you are that lonely, set up a second email account for yourself and send yourself babbling emails back and forth. You make my tits heavy with your boring lame assed postings.

Here、let me save you some time:

Bigcat wrote:

You're a poopy head!

Am not!

Bigcat wrote:

Are too!

Am not!

Bigcat wrote:

Are too!

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#34 2012-10-14 00:33:46

For fuck sakes, just go the fuck away. Fucking loser.

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#35 2012-10-14 03:20:34

I repeat, have you got any better ideas on the subject at hand, or do you just enjoy being a blowhard? Put up or shut up.

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#36 2012-10-14 09:59:57

Little fucking ninny gotta have the last word? I'll bet you wouldn't be able to type so much nonsense if you would go find a couple of cocks to play with and leave the internet alone.

Except for nobody, you are the biggest douche on the entire www. Go the fuck away.

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#37 2012-10-14 18:56:20

Bigcat wrote:

Little fucking ninny gotta have the last word? Go the fuck away.

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