#3 2012-10-22 17:46:44
fnord wrote:
A. You just discovered that news organizations fudge the truth to meet their own agendas?
B. This particular story is true. No doubt these dictators would rather see another 4 years of Obama. I mean, Barry has already promised to cave in to Putin after the election, when he "will have more flexibility".
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#4 2012-10-22 17:49:20
fnord wrote:
"The function of propaganda is, for example, not to weigh and ponder the rights of different people, but exclusively to emphasize the one right which it has set out to argue for. Its task is not to make an objective study of the truth, in so far as it favors the enemy, and then set it before the masses with academic fairness; its task is to serve our own right, always and unflinchingly." Unkie Adolf, Mein Kampf of Little Whorrors, Chapter 6
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#5 2012-10-22 18:47:16
phreddy wrote:
Among dictators. Can't wait to see how he defends his foreign affairs policies tonight.
I get the feeling from watching these debates that the Republicans would be quite happy to restart the cold war. Honestly Phred, who cares what Chavez or Castro thinks.
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#6 2012-10-22 18:47:26
phreddy wrote:
fnord wrote:
A. You just discovered that news organizations fudge the truth to meet their own agendas?
B. This particular story is true. No doubt these dictators would rather see another 4 years of Obama. I mean, Barry has already promised to cave in to Putin after the election, when he "will have more flexibility".
Just like Fox News, missing the point is your speciality. ĦDelud! ...er... ĦSalud!
Your punishment shall be to write an essay of 5000 words comparing and contrasting 'fudge', 'mislead' and 'outright lie'. Extra points if you can explain why 'disinformation' is defined as a strategic weapon.
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#7 2012-10-22 19:08:37
Apparently Paul and Fnord have been reading Saul Alinsky's Rules for Radicals, one of which is to attack the source of a story instead of addressing its veracity.
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#8 2012-10-22 19:16:37
Not going to waste the effort.
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#9 2012-10-22 19:18:25
phreddy wrote:
Apparently Paul and Fnord have been reading Saul Alinsky's Rules for Radicals, one of which is to attack the source of a story instead of addressing its veracity.
Oh, I'm very sure the story is true, I just don't believe it means very much. For instance, are these the only people in the world who think Obama is 'a good guy'?
Here's the first random 'fact' I pulled out of my ass: I'm sure that every single surviving member of the Manson family wants marijuana legalized, but I can't see voting against it on that basis.
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#10 2012-10-22 19:42:46
Add to the equation the fact that we are talking about the leaders of three strongly traditional Catholic nations that, surprise!, aren't big on a Mormon as president.
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#11 2012-10-22 19:51:06
phreddy wrote:
Apparently Paul and Fnord have been reading Saul Alinsky's Rules for Radicals, one of which is to attack the source of a story instead of addressing its veracity.
Ah yes, Ad hominem, the great grandfather of all argumentative fallacies.
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