Naw,  but m'boy sed he sawr un oer da bank. He took a whack at 'er but don't know if he got nuthin.

Mah dotters in the hopital up in pixsburgh dija know?

Bigcat wrote:

Just spent a week in Vermont at a log cabin in the woods with my family.

While there, a moose walked and hung out briefly near our camp area. I watched for as long as he was there- an amazing animal. My brother in law also watched it. The following conversation then took place:

"Damn I wisht I wudda brung my ought six"

"What for?" I asked

"I wudda took im down"

"Why?" I asked

"You seen how pretty he was"

I finally understand hunting!!!!!! You can only really appreciate the  beauty of something if you kill it.

My apologies to all you asshole hunters, I just thought you were shallow red neck douches.

Sterling Ridge Resort in Jeffersonville is a fantastic place if you ever get the urge to go.

I must agree with you - waste not, want not.  Save the pretty bastard until your hungry, until then do your shooting with a camera.

opsec wrote:

Bigcat wrote:

Just spent a week in Vermont at a log cabin in the woods with my family.

While there, a moose walked and hung out briefly near our camp area. I watched for as long as he was there- an amazing animal. My brother in law also watched it. The following conversation then took place:

"Damn I wisht I wudda brung my ought six"

"What for?" I asked

"I wudda took im down"

"Why?" I asked

"You seen how pretty he was"

Don't blame hunters for the fact that your sister married an idiot.

Right, he is the only one.

My sister didn't marry an idiot, my wife's brother is an idiot. My sister married an asshole. Please don't fuck up my family tree facts.

whosasailorthen wrote:

I agree that unless you can use the meat - ALL the meat - don't kill it.  That being said, if you disapprove of hunting for food, I ask that you consider this... which meat would you rather eat?

Meat from an animal who spent all of it's life in cages and ate unnatural/processed foods, got no exercise, never had a chance to have (or even see) the opposite sex, was continually shot full of hormones and antibiotics and ultimately slaughtered by people who cared nothing about the animal and in questionable (very likely filthy) processing conditions?

Or...

Meat from an animal that ate natural foods all its life, became strong and healthy by plenty of exercise and fresh air, got a chance to fool around with the opposite sex and perhaps even had offspring, lived a life free from cages and fences, was killed quickly and humanely and was cleaned and dressed by someone who maintained cleanliness you could actually see and who had respect for the animal and the life it gave?

As a person who eats meat, I'll take the latter every time I can.

I think responsible wildlife management is important, most of all for the animals themselves, since over-population of a species can cause them to become weakened by lack of food and therefore vulnerable to disease which can devastate and potentially even wipe out the entire herd. Responsible management - whether via birth control or humane culling - can serve to protect the species.

I don't disapprove of hunting for food. I disapprove of hunting for a power trip. If it is only for food then why does it matter how many horns it has or the length of spurs or any other bullshit that makes you asshle hunters get off?

All of your meat comes from the wild? Bullshit. In Pennsylvania you can murder 1 or 2 deer a year. They then get taken to a butcher who mixes the meat very heavily with pork so the fat fucking slob assed hunters can fry it up nice and greasy. They end up with $200 in a 40 pound deer meat butchering. Pretty surethe pigs used for the pork to make your kill edible were not wild.

I don't care how many of you think it's for the meat, you are not living off the fat of the land. If you were you would not have time to babble on the interweb of your respect for the great white hunter.

Bigcat wrote:

I don't disapprove of hunting for food. I disapprove of hunting for a power trip. If it is only for food then why does it matter how many horns it has or the length of spurs or any other bullshit that makes you asshle hunters get off?

All of your meat comes from the wild? Bullshit. In Pennsylvania you can murder 1 or 2 deer a year. They then get taken to a butcher who mixes the meat very heavily with pork so the fat fucking slob assed hunters can fry it up nice and greasy. They end up with $200 in a 40 pound deer meat butchering. Pretty surethe pigs used for the pork to make your kill edible were not wild.

I don't care how many of you think it's for the meat, you are not living off the fat of the land. If you were you would not have time to babble on the interweb of your respect for the great white hunter.

I don't get all my meat by hunting, and I never said I did - that's impossible in Pennsylvania -  what I said was that "As a person who eats meat, I'll take the latter every time I can."   For my other meat, I belong to a farm cooperative where I can at least get reasonably raised organic eggs, meat, spices, fruit and veg (and flowers for the table as well). 

As for the butchering, I beg to differ, but I dress and butcher my own game. I'm not one of your lazy slob hunters who gets a butcher to do it, and a great many of my fellow hunters also dress & butcher their own game as well. It's really not that difficult.

As for going for the most points, etc. that's really immaterial since mostly we go for doe since they are infinitely more plentiful and need culling. That being said, buck with larger racks are themselves much larger and therefor have more meat, so there's value in bagging a buck with more points.

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Emmeran wrote:

Bigcat wrote:

I don't disapprove of hunting for food. I disapprove of hunting for a power trip. If it is only for food then why does it matter how many horns it has or the length of spurs or any other bullshit that makes you asshle hunters get off?

All of your meat comes from the wild? Bullshit. In Pennsylvania you can murder 1 or 2 deer a year. They then get taken to a butcher who mixes the meat very heavily with pork so the fat fucking slob assed hunters can fry it up nice and greasy. They end up with $200 in a 40 pound deer meat butchering. Pretty surethe pigs used for the pork to make your kill edible were not wild.

I don't care how many of you think it's for the meat, you are not living off the fat of the land. If you were you would not have time to babble on the interweb of your respect for the great white hunter.

You are prejudging and assuming to know our motives for what we do when as a matter of fact some of us smoke and can every year, putting up supplies for the winter.

Please go off and do what you do, leave the rest of us to our whiles; it's not like we're hurting you by culling the herd.  We are in fact living off of the fat of the land.

This is what I do. So you can meat all year, huh? I call bullshit.

Emmeran wrote:

Bigcat wrote:

Emmeran wrote:

You are prejudging and assuming to know our motives for what we do when as a matter of fact some of us smoke and can every year, putting up supplies for the winter.

Please go off and do what you do, leave the rest of us to our whiles; it's not like we're hurting you by culling the herd.  We are in fact living off of the fat of the land.

This is what I do. So you can meat all year, huh? I call bullshit.

Call it what you will, it doesn't change the facts.  You grew up going to the grocery and I grew up going to the field.  In my book you are welcome and encouraged to form your own opinion, I just have my life.

Seems as though I am NOT welcome to have my opinion. How the fuck do you know how I grew up?

whosasailorthen wrote:

If you're ever in PA in the fall, Em, I'll have to take you up to Potter County.  Plenty of white tails in those woods.

I'll happily take you up on that, the way things are rolling I might be there for a visit next fall.  I won't have my smoke house built by then but I can always outsource it.

Bigcat wrote:

Seems as though I am NOT welcome to have my opinion. How the fuck do you know how I grew up?

Bigcat wrote:

I disapprove of hunting for a power trip. If it is only for food then why does it matter how many horns it has or the length of spurs or any other bullshit that makes you asshle hunters get off?

Not to put too fine a point on it, but who is disparaging and prejudging whom?

Kitty, if you don't like hunting, fine.  You said your piece, and oh-so-eloquently I might add.  But if you piss all over our shoes don't get upset if we kick you in the balls.

First of all, I apologize for calling the wrong relative an idiot.  I will stand by my opinion however that when a man kills a thing for beauty then that man is either evil or an idiot, and the first is far less common than the second.

I am not a hunter.  It's tedious and I'm not interested.  I do love game meat and buy it when it's available.

I live close to a military base that has a large deer population.  Unfortunately much of their range is littered with unexploded ordinance so hunting is not an option, and they have no natural predators.  Every 10 years or so due to overgrazing, malnutrition and disease they are culled in a most unsportmanlike and military fashion.

Hunting is an important part of humane game management. 

Also, feral pigs are a menace and I offer a bounty* to any that should be well killed, well cooked and brought to my table.

* Bounty to be negotiated based on
    weight of pig
    taste of pig
    speed of delivery to table
    attractiveness of server

Emmeran wrote:

I can't oblige at this point but am working back to where I was, I do promise to offer free range swine raised on rooting veggies and acorns.  I'll advert them here first.

Acorn mast is nature's way of saying this tastes like crap let's wait for the pig to eat it.

Edit: apostrophe.

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