fnord wrote:

Dave brubeck Quartet - Take five

The Indians are talented musicians, but what they've produced is suggestive of the original, with a very different spirit from it. Musical translations from one culture to another should almost be considered a new work. Try to imagine classical Japanese compositions as interpreted by black jazz musicians to get an idea of how one culture won't understand the nuances of the other culture's music.

Just imagine Pat Boone singing Tutti Frutti.

Tall Paul wrote:

Just imagine Pat Boone singing Tutti Frutti.

Oh my god no.

nfidel, Pat Boone singing Tutti Frutti was mildly painful, sort of like William Shatner singing Rocket Man. I'll get over it without wishing a painful death for you. TP, you're a sick and evil motherfucker for alerting me to the existence of the Pat Boone version of Stairway to Heaven!  I'm going to make a doll named for you and stick several thousand pins in it. I'll also light candles in front of my icons of the sacred severed heads of Anne Boleyn and Lady Jane Grey, and ask these holy martyrs of my faith to infest your home with a billion bedbugs!

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Tall Paul wrote:

p.s. I think Pat still had some vestige of a soul left over before he recorded Tutti Frutti, but not after.

That's a little harsh.  It was a well known strategy at that time to introduce "black" music to a white audience by having a vanilla icon sing some of the tunes.  Pat wasn't the first or last to do it.

Much more reprehensible are white singers"acting black".

Baywolfe wrote:

That's a little harsh.  It was a well known strategy at that time to introduce "black" music to a white audience by having a vanilla icon sing some of the tunes.  Pat wasn't the first or last to do it.

Record companies had a lot of strategies in those days, including paying them niggers black artists a few dollars for their music with no chance of royalties, much less points. Pat's strategy was to get paid for singing, dressing and acting in the manner he was told to. If he was even consciously aware he was complicit in exploiting other's work, he was more than happy to be paid for exploitation. Besides, he's demonstrably a souless fuckwad anyway.

I also notice that musicians like Eric Clapton, Pete Townsend and John Lennon (to name three) had no problem picking up on "black" music without Pat's help.

As did I. To this day I can hear "Why is everybody always pickin' on me?" perfectly clearly in my mind. Fashions in music come and go, that's a part of the game and well understood. One of the main reasons their music did become passe was young Americans and Brits listened to and loved the original blues recordings and learned their lessons well. Even so.... Frankie Valli had his own schtick, Neil Sedaka was at the very least a competent musician and knew how to write hit songs.  As for Pat, well...

Emmeran wrote:

Wait, aren't black musicians just white musicians with an overly developed sense of tan?

Since when (outside of Fnordie) did color have a good damned thing to do with music?

Go tell it to Lawrence Welk.

Edit: You do have a point, and it does work both ways. Could white musicians have come up with disco on their own?

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Baywolfe wrote:

hence the Funk Brothers of Motown fame having both black and white members.

You seem to be confused, your member can't be both and cannot play the guitar for shit.

fled wrote:

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