Please don't expect Homeland Security to come running if you report a terrorist attack.  They have other important duties to attend to, like busting this Kansas City boutique for selling "unauthorized" panties.

Sorting and selling your web traffic.

phreddy wrote:

You just know that law enforcement will subpoena this info for the thinnest of reasons.

Look at our world when our beloved and favorite Right-winger is beating his drum and marching in lockstep with the crazy-ass rest of us...

Emmeran wrote:

phreddy wrote:

You just know that law enforcement will subpoena this info for the thinnest of reasons.

Look at our world when our beloved and favorite Right-winger is beating his drum and marching in lockstep with the crazy-ass rest of us...

Hey, I started this thread.  It is all of you who are marching with me.  Conservatives definitely do not place much trust in government.  Especially true when government is collecting personal information with the promise that it will only be used for benign ethical purposes.

phreddy wrote:

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Hey, I started this thread.  It is all of you who are marching with me.  Conservatives definitely do not place much trust in government.  Especially true when government is collecting personal information with the promise that it will only be used for benign ethical purposes.

They only trust government when it comes to requiring women to have children, deciding how you get high, handing out tax expenditures, and the like.  In other words, they only trust government when they control it.  And in that, they are not so different.

Fled wrote:

phreddy wrote:

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Hey, I started this thread.  It is all of you who are marching with me.  Conservatives definitely do not place much trust in government.  Especially true when government is collecting personal information with the promise that it will only be used for benign ethical purposes.

They only trust government when it comes to requiring women to have children, deciding how you get high, handing out tax expenditures, and the like.  In other words, they only trust government when they control it.  And in that, they are not so different.

You've put your finger on the great dilemma of the modern conservative movement: How to control government when you don't want to (or can't) govern.

Wider Tracking of U.S. Mail

choad wrote:

Wider Tracking of U.S. Mail

Hope they like reading catalogs.  That's all we seem to fucking get these days.

Russian Hackers Breach White House

U.S. officials were alerted to the breach by an ally, sources said.

NSA's budget in 2013 was 10 billion dollars. But we have to depend on another country to detect the White House breach and tell us. That seems a bit embarrassing.

Emmeran wrote:

Let's start with the simple questions such as "Why would anyone in the White House need internet access"?

Porn.

Why doesn't the FBI put up sting type websites to draw out the terrorist wannabes?  Seems to work for child molesters.  Maybe they already have and are finally keeping quiet about something.

phreddy wrote:

Why doesn't the FBI put up sting type websites to draw out the terrorist wannabes?  Seems to work for child molesters.  Maybe they already have and are finally keeping quiet about something.

They do and they catch and parade just the idiots you suspect they would, only it seems people like the idea of getting their virgins now rather than after they blow their nuts off and so the young pussy stings are much more effective.

Why?  They're catching the bad guys and we're not experiencing a whole lot of actual terrorism.  Good for them!

phreddy wrote:

They also get credit for recruiting and radicalizing the "terrorists".  Sort of a law enforcement version of make work.

Entrapment: In criminal law, entrapment is a practice whereby a law enforcement agent induces a person to commit a criminal offense that the person would have otherwise been unlikely to commit.

VICE News has learned that the Senate committee is hoping to release its report [on the CIA torture program] as early as next week, when the US sends a delegation to Geneva, Switzerland where it will submit a report on compliance with the International Convention Against Torture. The release of the executive summary would be an effort to show "some form of accountability," one person familiar with the declassification negotiations said.

The goal may be difficult to achieve if Feinstein, the White House, and the CIA cannot reach an agreement over the use of pseudonyms, which has delayed the release of the report for months.

If they try to stall and rely on future Republican leadership of the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence to bury the report, sounds like it will all leak out anyway.

U.S. Marshals hire whores to entice your closest confidant¹ into ratting you out using their dirty, dirty boxes.

¹Your phone, of course.

square wrote:

Does outgoing Colorado Senator Mark Udall have the stones to follow in Mike Gravel's footsteps?

But Udall's loss doesn't have to be all bad. The lame-duck transparency advocate now has a rare opportunity to truly show his principles in the final two months of his Senate career and finally expose, in great detail, the secret government wrongdoing he's been criticizing for years. On his way out the door, Udall can use congressional immunity provided to him by the Constitution's Speech and Debate clause to read the Senate's still-classified 6,000-page CIA torture report into the Congressional record -- on the floor, on TV, for the world to see.

Let's hope so. After all, I did vote for him.

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Apparently not everyone at the NSA has been happy with spying on Americans.  Of course if they are "responsible" and report their concerns internally it just results in the boss deciding that things are okie-dokie as they are.

The report continues: "He said he also warned of a scandal if it should be disclosed that the NSA was storing records of private calls by Americans--to psychiatrists, lovers, and suicide hotlines, among other contacts."

[Former NSA Director and overall scumbag Keith] Alexander acknowledged this official's concerns to the AP: "An individual did bring us these questions, and he had some great points. I asked the technical folks, including him, to look at it."

Wired: Utah Confronts NSA’s Monster Data Center

James Risen: War Profiteers Flog Fear to a Spineless Press

Emmeran wrote:

How far will they go?  All the way back to 1789 apparently.

I think it's all smoke and mirrors anyway.  They want people to think they can read all the emails, texts, phone calls, etc. so they can cover their asses when they actually snag something. 

If we all really wanted to bring the FedGov to it's electronic surveillance knees, we would just all put "Overthrow the Government, Terrorism, Plot, Bomb, WMD, and Biological Agent" at the footer of every email and text sent.

square wrote:

Nice work, if you can get it.

Perhaps it's not quite as lucrative as it first seems.

Cricket Communications, a low-cost brand of AT&T as of March 2014, has agreed to pay over $2.1 million to settle allegations that the company "overcharged federal law enforcement agencies for the costs of carrying out court-ordered wiretaps and pen registers," federal authorities announced on Monday.

Sure, we'll release that report on CIA torture.  Psych!

Secretary of State John Kerry personally phoned Dianne Feinstein, chairman of the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence, Friday morning to ask her to delay the imminent release of her committee's report on CIA torture and rendition during the George W. Bush administration, according to administration and Congressional officials.