#51 2014-12-19 13:27:23
phreddy wrote:
Everyone bought into both of those wars, and I mean everyone. Obama and other liberals even called Afghanistan "the good war".
Bullshit, they were just watching the latest Bruce Willis disaster from the comfort of home next to a beer and a bowl of chili, bombarded by 24/7, 7/11 Never Forget! entertainment.
But how many times can you watch WTC high divers slow-mo backflip?
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#52 2014-12-19 14:55:24
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#53 2014-12-19 15:02:25
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#54 2014-12-19 16:14:35
In case you forgot what some forms of torture took place. Women, children. Wave that fucking bloody rag you call a flag.
http://www.salon.com/2004/07/15/hersh_7/
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#55 2014-12-19 18:05:39
Dmtdust wrote:
In case you forgot what some forms of torture took place. Women, children. Wave that fucking bloody rag you call a flag.
http://www.salon.com/2004/07/15/hersh_7/
A. It's easy for someone to make inflammatory claims of rape and torture, but isn't it strange that none of the videos ever showed up?
B. Offenses at Abu Ghraib were not committed under the enhanced interrogation program. They were criminal acts, mostly by Iraqi guards and a few U.S. Military guards.
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#56 2014-12-19 18:15:22
They burned the tapes. You have a short memory ((read convenient). Regardless, it is a pattern repeated again and again.
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#57 2014-12-19 18:48:51
phreddy wrote:
Offenses at Abu Ghraib were not committed under the enhanced interrogation program. They were criminal acts, mostly by Iraqi guards and a few U.S. Military guards.
Don't forget 'sanctioned and planned at the highest levels of the American government'.
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#58 2014-12-19 18:53:43
phreddy wrote:
I will take the word of those who have been there rather than the ignorant blather of pontifical pacifists.
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#60 2014-12-20 02:37:05
Phred, your emotion-based outbursts don't seem to be prevailing over morality and the calm, rational analysis of enlightened self interest. Why don't you try blaming it on Obama and see how that works out?
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#61 2014-12-21 13:44:02
Tall Paul wrote:
phreddy wrote:
I will take the word of those who have been there rather than the ignorant blather of pontifical pacifists.
This is just typical of you Paul. You attach one of my statements to a completely unrelated photo. Had you been honest, you would have attached the only statement I actually made about Abu Ghraib. " Offenses at Abu Ghraib were not committed under the enhanced interrogation program. They were criminal acts, mostly by Iraqi guards and a few U.S. Military guards." I am growing weary of arguing with irrational people like you.
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#62 2014-12-21 18:57:03
Damn! You're even lying about the lies you base your lies on...... If you want respect, come up with some respectable ideas. But don't worry! I'll never grow weary of pointing out your faulty logic and rhetorical chicanery.
Torture (look again (assuming you ever did) at the top of the thread) is evil, ineffective and any information it generates is unreliable. It has done very little for us except breed a new generation of enemies with total contempt for us, and worst of all is totally unnecessary. I don't care how many chubbies it generated at PNAC; let them slaughter tame birds if Viagra doesn't suit them.
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#63 2014-12-22 10:22:32
Tall Paul wrote:
Damn! You're even lying about the lies you base your lies on...... If you want respect, come up with some respectable ideas. But don't worry! I'll never grow weary of pointing out your faulty logic and rhetorical chicanery.
Torture (look again (assuming you ever did) at the top of the thread) is evil, ineffective and any information it generates is unreliable. It has done very little for us except breed a new generation of enemies with total contempt for us, and worst of all is totally unnecessary. I don't care how many chubbies it generated at PNAC; let them slaughter tame birds if Viagra doesn't suit them.
Don't bother. He's into full blown Ad Homenem mode.
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#66 2014-12-22 18:45:51
Baywolfe wrote:
Tall Paul wrote:
Damn! You're even lying about the lies you base your lies on...... If you want respect, come up with some respectable ideas. But don't worry! I'll never grow weary of pointing out your faulty logic and rhetorical chicanery.
Torture (look again (assuming you ever did) at the top of the thread) is evil, ineffective and any information it generates is unreliable. It has done very little for us except breed a new generation of enemies with total contempt for us, and worst of all is totally unnecessary. I don't care how many chubbies it generated at PNAC; let them slaughter tame birds if Viagra doesn't suit them.Don't bother. He's into full blown Ad Homenem mode.
I'd be willing to take a look at a picture that he thinks best illustrates his conception of "those who have been there" but amateur torturer photos rarely make it into the public domain.
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