#2 2015-03-01 19:15:05

Now that is truly fucking scary.

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#3 2015-03-01 20:34:48

Ho-lee shit.

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#4 2015-03-01 20:40:17

And look how hard your government is fighting it.

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#5 2015-03-01 20:40:59

What are they going to do, hire The Lonely Voice Of Youth? Scary.

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#6 2015-03-01 21:45:44

Tall Paul wrote:

What are they going to do, hire The Lonely Voice Of Youth? Scary.

Ah.. yes.  The government is powerless to change it.   Of course.  How silly of me.

Couldn't be that it suits their purposes.

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#7 2015-03-01 22:57:48

whosasailorthen wrote:

Ah.. yes.  The government is powerless to change it.   Of course.  How silly of me.

Couldn't be that it suits their purposes.

Sailor has a point; the only long term solution to Internet misinformation would be to provide a decent education in the public school system which includes a hefty side of logic and critical thinking. This isn't in the ruling elite's interest!

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#8 2015-03-01 23:24:15

whosasailorthen wrote:

Ah.. yes.  The government is powerless to change it.   Of course.  How silly of me.

Couldn't be that it suits their purposes.

Sheeit... the government can't even fund   Seig Heil das Vaterland    Homeland Security anymore. Do you really expect it to take on a Corporation?

Couldn't possibly be, could it?

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#9 2015-03-02 00:22:58

The trustworthiness of a web page might help it rise up Google's rankings if the search giant starts to measure quality by facts, not just links

I don't get it. What's wrong with that?

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#10 2015-03-02 02:59:13

sigmoid freud wrote:

The trustworthiness of a web page might help it rise up Google's rankings if the search giant starts to measure quality by facts, not just links

I don't get it. What's wrong with that?

Perception of truth created by an algorithm; i.e. "if Google has vetted it then it must be true".  Can you imagine a better way to reinforce any lie you like?

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#11 2015-03-02 04:34:48

Emmeran wrote:

sigmoid freud wrote:

The trustworthiness of a web page might help it rise up Google's rankings if the search giant starts to measure quality by facts, not just links

I don't get it. What's wrong with that?

Perception of truth created by an algorithm; i.e. "if Google has vetted it then it must be true".  Can you imagine a better way to reinforce any lie you like?

It'll be as fair as a gerrymandered district, as beautiful as Donald Trump's hair and as open as an Alabama country club. All you have to do is just sit right back and let us write the algorithm.

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#12 2015-03-02 13:12:09

He who controls the Past, controls the Present.

He who controls the Present, controls the Future.

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#13 2015-03-02 13:54:28

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#14 2015-03-02 18:03:30

Welcome to 1984.

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#15 2015-03-02 19:11:17

Baywolfe wrote:

He who controls the Past, controls the Present.

He who controls the Present, controls the Future.

And he who controls the information, controls all. 

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All wars and battles are won or lost on information... the one who knows the key information, and controls access to it, wins... simple as that.

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#16 2015-03-02 19:59:55

I type this in English because of Enigma and the Navajo code; information is everything.

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#17 2015-03-03 10:24:54

Tall Paul wrote:

Emmeran wrote:

sigmoid freud wrote:


I don't get it. What's wrong with that?

Perception of truth created by an algorithm; i.e. "if Google has vetted it then it must be true".  Can you imagine a better way to reinforce any lie you like?

It'll be as fair as a gerrymandered district, as beautiful as Donald Trump's hair and as open as an Alabama country club. All you have to do is just sit right back and let us write the algorithm.

The facts according to Google, then. Got it.

On the other hand, it can't be worse than number of hits.

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#18 2015-03-03 10:27:33

whosasailorthen wrote:

All wars and battles are won or lost on information... the one who knows the key information, and controls access to it, wins... simple as that.

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#20 2015-03-03 11:06:38

Exactly, visit the singularity thread this goes under the title of "How to beat Deep Blue"

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#21 2015-03-03 13:36:31

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"God is on the side with the best artillery!"
--Napoleon

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#22 2015-03-03 15:48:47

"Artillery adds dignity to what would otherwise be a vulgar brawl."

- Frederick the Great

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#23 2015-03-03 16:16:11

Emmeran wrote:

"Artillery adds dignity to what would otherwise be a vulgar brawl."

- Frederick the Great

Now wait a minute... I thought you were supposed to get all sad and huffy when there is a thread with any mention of anything military. Shouldn't you be demanding (upon uncaring ears) to "burn this thread"?

Or are you sober today?

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#24 2015-03-03 16:29:04

Bigcat wrote:

Or are you sober today?

God forbid.

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#25 2015-03-03 19:14:11

Emmeran wrote:

Bigcat wrote:

Or are you sober today?

God forbid.

Nice.

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#26 2015-03-03 20:20:58

Welcome back to the High-Street bar, we all float down here Georgie

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#27 2015-03-03 20:25:59

If you see Phreddy and his big-boy pants out there tell him to drop by for a round.

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#28 2015-03-03 21:24:13

Emmeran wrote:

Welcome back to the High-Street bar, we all float down here Georgie

That was the only book that ever disturbed me.

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#29 2015-03-03 22:19:18

Unlike public comments in the regular press when you act like an ass around here everyone basically shrugs and goes back to their pint.  I do prefer to rant to people who know enough to ignore me the minute it looks like I'm getting started and know that it's just a moment and not to take it personal.

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#30 2015-03-04 07:57:32

If one would give me six lines written by the hand of the most honest man, I would find something in them to have him hanged. Cardinal Richelieu, 1585-09-09 - 1642-12-04

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#31 2015-03-04 09:22:49

Emmeran wrote:

Welcome back to the High-Street bar, we all float down here Georgie

I just started reading "It" again last night because of this comment. Fuckin shit talking from the sewer grate is creepy as hell.

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#32 2015-03-04 10:21:36

Bigcat wrote:

I just started reading "It" again last night because of this comment. Fuckin shit talking from the sewer grate is creepy as hell.

It's ironic that the dude who wrote some of the scariest books of our time also wrote probably the best romance in "Lisey's Story"

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#33 2015-03-04 10:42:21

Emmeran wrote:

Bigcat wrote:

I just started reading "It" again last night because of this comment. Fuckin shit talking from the sewer grate is creepy as hell.

It's ironic that the dude who wrote some of the scariest books of our time also wrote probably the best romance in "Lisey's Story"

That is true. He managed to get a little spooky-ish in that too. Booya Moon, blood bools and all. Plus the brutal rape, that was graphic.

I am trying to slog my way through the Dark Tower series but It is a little hard to stay interested in. Funny how many of his other books creep into the story there though. Even  vague ref to Booya Moon.

Only on book 6 so no spoilers please. Only S.K. books I have not read are the last two of that series, I have to take breaks from it . All others I have read multiple times.

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#34 2015-03-04 11:00:56

Bigcat wrote:

Emmeran wrote:

Welcome back to the High-Street bar, we all float down here Georgie

I just started reading "It" again last night because of this comment. Fuckin shit talking from the sewer grate is creepy as hell.

I just started "Duma Key".  It's been on the shelf for years because my wife read it but I never got around to it.

"It" is definitely creepy, but it will never equal the scare to my 18 years old self reading "Salem's Lot" when it first came out.

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#35 2015-03-04 22:05:58

Baywolfe wrote:

Bigcat wrote:

Emmeran wrote:

Welcome back to the High-Street bar, we all float down here Georgie

I just started reading "It" again last night because of this comment. Fuckin shit talking from the sewer grate is creepy as hell.

I just started "Duma Key".  It's been on the shelf for years because my wife read it but I never got around to it.

"It" is definitely creepy, but it will never equal the scare to my 18 years old self reading "Salem's Lot" when it first came out.

I was seventeen the first time I read Salem's Lot.  I stayed up until five in the morning on a school night, finally forced myself to put the damn book down, then could not sleep for fear of vampires.  I kept telling myself that was ridiculous, that I was grown and knew there are no vampires, and every tiny noise in the dark house 'bout damn near gave me a heart attack.
Subsequent re-readings reveal the book to be way too wordy and some of the characters' dialogue is cringeworthy in retrospect; but I will never forget how much that book scared me that night.

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#36 2015-03-04 23:18:03

It is the reading season after all.  The youngest has just started the Stand, the middle into Asimov and the eldest boy just finished Murakami's "Sputnik Sweetheart".  Melons is blogging like crazy and I am redoing my classic Kings and wanting to re-taste Vonnegut. 

I need new suggestions, new ground to tread...

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#37 2015-03-05 00:04:02

If you enjoy excellent writing and heavy drinking The Long Goodbye would be an excellent read for you.

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#38 2015-03-05 00:08:15

For some reason, my last year or so has seen an awful lot of hard boiled private eye reading.
The later Ross MacDonald Lew Archer books stand out. Less shooting, fewer beatings, more complex characters and plot twists.

Edit: second The Long Goodbye.

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#39 2015-03-05 09:00:47

Elmore Leonard, Alfred Bester, and, hell, even Sir Arthur Conan Doyle.

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