#2 2015-06-03 03:09:27
Interesting post, thanks.
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#3 2015-06-03 04:58:59
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#4 2015-06-03 05:06:43
One jury I wouldn't have minded sitting on.
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#5 2015-06-03 12:00:32
Fuck Oracle. They have already fucked up Java (a, formerly, OPEN SOURCE development language) almost beyond use.
We held a funeral the day they bought Sun Microsystems because we knew what was coming. No corporation, and I'm talking to you Computer Associates, has ever bought software and made it better. They usually, cut support, increase license fees, and freeze development.
If Oracle's plan is to drive people to .NET, it's succeeding.
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#6 2015-06-03 13:21:13
Well there's always the conflict of interest concern when the Judge takes it upon himself to become an expert. In the end of the day both Java and .Net will fade away so much like COBOL and FORTRAN to be replaced by the next best thing.
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#7 2015-06-03 22:17:20
Emmeran wrote:
Well there's always the conflict of interest concern when the Judge takes it upon himself to become an expert. In the end of the day both Java and .Net will fade away so much like COBOL and FORTRAN to be replaced by the next best thing.
That's just not the case anymore Em. Gone are the days when there were 10 or 12 viable business languages at the same time.
Now it's whatever is the latest Micro$oft flavor, that only runs on their proprietary VM, and Java. Anything else out there is just a niche programming language and Java has one foot veering towards the grave. The best Enterprise level development language of them all, PowerBuilder, is still around but now completely irrelevant.
The main reason is that the only languages that survive are the free ones. Anybody can get the latest copy of C# .NET or VB .NET or Web.Net development environment for free. Ditto for Java. Corporations aren't going to pay $4000 + per seat license anymore to develop software internally. Hell, I'm not even sure all that many companies even have in-house application development anymore.
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#8 2015-06-04 05:20:43
Baywolfe wrote:
Hell, I'm not even sure all that many companies even have in-house application development anymore.
Everybody I've talked with in the Financial sector still does, even the start-ups. If nothing else they need them to stitch together the self-ware they purchase. There is still a demand for COBOL coders, nobody wants to even contemplate the cost and effort or replacing millions of lines of reliable, mission-critical code. Since you can run COBOL in the cloud just as easy as any other code I suspect it will be around for a couple of more decades.
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#9 2015-06-04 09:31:23
The Financial sector still uses Oracle too.
But everybody else is bailing out for cheap/free SQL Server and open source databases like PostgreSQL.
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#10 2015-06-04 12:44:11
I'm impressed that the judge took the time to learn about programming as part of his preparation for the trial. Most of the assholes who make law in this country don't understand the technology they're regulating or making case law about. I give you Senator Tubes as a prime example.
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#11 2015-06-04 23:00:15
choad wrote:
Son, I am disappoint.
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#12 2015-06-04 23:20:09
I'm sure you know can-rcade-come-out-and-play troll bait when you see it but thanks for playing.
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#13 2015-06-05 22:17:36
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#14 2015-06-06 00:22:53
Easy to throw stones two decades after the fact.
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#15 2015-06-07 18:22:16
Dvorak makes me want to scream sometimes but, in his defense, this was written before the Java 2 Enterprise Edition or even Swing was invented. In '96 Java was a barely usable, what the fuck do we do with this, programming language.
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