#2 2016-12-01 10:42:49
No word if he died of heart disease, but at his age that's kind of expected.
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#3 2016-12-01 11:34:13
Heart disease at 98?
How about just old age?
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#4 2016-12-01 15:40:18
Emmeran wrote:
Heart disease at 98?
How about just old age?
I guess that's what I was trying to say. Out there in the tail of the bell curve, anything is possible.
In my day "job" I do data analysis of healthcare metrics and I was surprised how mortality vs income is an inverse bell curve. The poor and the rich both typically live less long than the upper middle class (what we used to call middle class), even accounting for the top shelf health care. Bad diet, stress and lack of exercise take their tolls.
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#5 2016-12-01 21:16:46
GooberMcNutly wrote:
Bad diet, stress and lack of exercise take their tolls.
Absolutely, although too rich foods at the upper end and too much fats and carbs at the lower end don't help. In the long run it doesn't matter what you eat as long as you're willing to burn the calories off.
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#6 2016-12-01 21:30:40
Baywolfe wrote:
Absolutely, although too rich foods at the upper end and too much fats and carbs at the lower end don't help.
That's what surprised me. Overdosing on bleached flour, palm oil and HFCS affect the poor, while rich foods, overly sterile environments and too much red meat and automobile accidents kill the 1% at nearly the same rate per year. Alcohol and red meat kill both equally. The middle class eat more veggies per capita and get more exercise than either and have lower blood pressure and lower mortality at 46-55 and 56-65 than either group.
The real sad demographic are the wetbacks, especially the women. Those poor bastards have a mortality rate nearly twice the Caucasian rate in the 46-55 and three times as high 56-65. But I guess you can't put mayo on anything not moving, have no healthcare and work hard at manual labor and expect to live very long.
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#7 2016-12-01 21:55:03
GooberMcNutly wrote:
Baywolfe wrote:
Absolutely, although too rich foods at the upper end and too much fats and carbs at the lower end don't help.
That's what surprised me. Overdosing on bleached flour, palm oil and HFCS affect the poor, while rich foods, overly sterile environments and too much red meat and automobile accidents kill the 1% at nearly the same rate per year. Alcohol and red meat kill both equally. The middle class eat more veggies per capita and get more exercise than either and have lower blood pressure and lower mortality at 46-55 and 56-65 than either group.
The real sad demographic are the wetbacks, especially the women. Those poor bastards have a mortality rate nearly twice the Caucasian rate in the 46-55 and three times as high 56-65. But I guess you can't put mayo on anything not moving, have no healthcare and work hard at manual labor and expect to live very long.
Any #'s on blow and ciggies? I have been firmly on the wagon but getting ready to leap off for a spell.
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#8 2016-12-02 06:33:10
Bigcat wrote:
Any #'s on blow and ciggies? I have been firmly on the wagon but getting ready to leap off for a spell.
Skip the ciggies and keep walking up piles of rock and you should be fine.
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#9 2016-12-02 09:23:05
Emmeran wrote:
Bigcat wrote:
Any #'s on blow and ciggies? I have been firmly on the wagon but getting ready to leap off for a spell.
Skip the ciggies and keep walking up piles of rock and you should be fine.
That's no lie. Find any of those "How Long Will I Live?" sites that include details like smoking, drugs, alcohol, etc. and see the dramatic difference in life expectancy depending on your choices. The only other biggie, is to make sure your blood pressure is under control either through diet/exercise, medication, or both.
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#10 2016-12-02 10:46:39
The biggest problem with my "vice" data sets is that they are all self reported. Self reported data is shit, especially about illegal or immoral actions. "How often do you speed?" or "How much meth do you take?" all give you data that is estimated either too high or too low. I CAN tell you that taking illegal drugs has a high correlation to catching an STD, one of the reasons I've been behind legalization. I've actually got a data call to Colorado Dept of Public Health looking for trends since legalization, but their healthcare reporting is at least 2 years behind, so it's early days. Having an STD has a negative correlation to longevity, but not much. Unfortunately my data is often spotty (states differ in what they consider drug "use" and STD classifications, so I often have to lump data into big buckets) about splitting "benign" STDs like the clap and gonorrhea vs syphilis or Hep B for example.
Get aerobic exercise at least twice a week and keep your BMI under 30 and don't get Hep B and you should do pretty well. At least until some hunter shoots you for fucking his wife.
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#12 2016-12-08 15:19:21
McDonalds manager & The Local Po-Po vs a 10 year old nerd in a hacking contest? I've got odds on the nerd.
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