#1 2008-07-17 09:31:41
http://www.democracynow.org/2008/5/20/a … e_new_film
"A Jihad for Love" tries to:
A) Convince Muslim countries to become more tolerant of the gays, and
B) Make Western countries understand that jihad is not a violent term.
This is like trying to convince a bear to go vegan, and then calling the subsequent mauling a hug.
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#2 2008-07-17 13:20:16
Elaborate suicide attempt. Your "hug" analogy is apt.
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#3 2008-07-17 13:27:40
Any religious terminology is subjective. Many Muslims - more moderate, educated Muslims - believe jihad describes a personal struggle to come to terms with the material world. Of course, that whole god thing just gets in the way of a great deal of rational thought.
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#4 2008-07-17 17:01:25
Taint wrote:
Any religious terminology is subjective.
A Buddhist has to say that sort of thing. Nagarjuna's definition of pratitysamutpada was an attempt to avoid the problematic classification of sunyata as a metaphysical philosophy. In fact, however, your statement is itself subjective. Most of the world's religious fuckjobs would disagree with you, and argue for the objective reality of their beliefs.
Addendum: (No disrespect to Nagarjuna - he created the world's first distinct and logically consistent dialectic, centuries ahead of Sankara, and almost two millennia ahead of Hegel.)
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#5 2008-07-17 18:39:36
Yeah, but can a Buddhist cut up the rug?
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#6 2008-07-17 19:50:35
Banjo wrote:
Yeah, but can a Buddhist cut up the rug?
Please, Banjo...no more of your home videos.
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#7 2008-07-17 21:10:13
WilberCuntLicker wrote:
Banjo wrote:
Yeah, but can a Buddhist cut up the rug?
Please, Banjo...no more of your home videos.
At least he didn't find footage of King David dancing before the Ark in only his ephod...
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#8 2008-07-18 00:10:09
WilberCuntLicker wrote:
Taint wrote:
Any religious terminology is subjective.
A Buddhist has to say that sort of thing. Nagarjuna's definition of pratitysamutpada was an attempt to avoid the problematic classification of sunyata as a metaphysical philosophy. In fact, however, your statement is itself subjective. Most of the world's religious fuckjobs would disagree with you, and argue for the objective reality of their beliefs.
I agree completely. Any statement is subjective. The difference, of course, in this case is that at least intellectually I recognize the subjectivity of the statement, whereas for many people such statements are black and white, which, of course, I believe is ridiculous.
Nagarjuna was a pretty amazing guy, at least what we know of him. I'm glad to see you're familiar with him.
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#9 2008-07-18 02:20:39
Taint wrote:
WilberCuntLicker wrote:
Taint wrote:
Any religious terminology is subjective.
A Buddhist has to say that sort of thing. Nagarjuna's definition of pratitysamutpada was an attempt to avoid the problematic classification of sunyata as a metaphysical philosophy. In fact, however, your statement is itself subjective. Most of the world's religious fuckjobs would disagree with you, and argue for the objective reality of their beliefs.
I agree completely. Any statement is subjective. The difference, of course, in this case is that at least intellectually I recognize the subjectivity of the statement, whereas for many people such statements are black and white, which, of course, I believe is ridiculous.
Nagarjuna was a pretty amazing guy, at least what we know of him. I'm glad to see you're familiar with him.
Heh...I studied the Advaita Vedanta and the Madhyamika dialectic with one of his grads. I turned down a fellowship to go further...Sanskrit was mandatory, and as fascinating as those old wogs are, I wasn't prepared to spend years learning a dead language to analyze the philosophy of religions I ultimately had no attachment to. Why was an ardent atheist and materialist following that path in the first place, you ask? Well of course, like many of my stories, it all starts with a naked woman, a pot of jam and a bicycle pump. Uh oh - phone's ringing, I'll have to finish this later.
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#10 2008-07-18 06:33:16
WilberCuntLicker wrote:
Heh...I studied the Advaita Vedanta and the Madhyamika dialectic with one of his grads. I turned down a fellowship to go further...Sanskrit was mandatory, and as fascinating as those old wogs are, I wasn't prepared to spend years learning a dead language to analyze the philosophy of religions I ultimately had no attachment to. Why was an ardent atheist and materialist following that path in the first place, you ask? Well of course, like many of my stories, it all starts with a naked woman, a pot of jam and a bicycle pump. Uh oh - phone's ringing, I'll have to finish this later.
I'm sorry, what was that? I stopped paying attention at "naked woman".
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