#1 2008-10-02 13:51:39

Q: What do these people and Paris Hilton have in common?
A: They're all eligible to vote.

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#2 2008-10-02 14:00:58

Well, the video doesn't load, and the web site is owned by Rupert Murdoch.  The usual, thanks.

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#3 2008-10-02 14:13:11

I don't get it. Nobody says anything particularly stupid, there seems nothing particularly odd about vote taxis and this GOTV stuff.

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#4 2008-10-02 14:15:52

Dmtdust wrote:

Well, the video doesn't load, and the web site is owned by Rupert Murdoch.  The usual, thanks.

Leave it to you to come up with a conspiracy theory...

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#5 2008-10-02 14:19:02

AladdinSane wrote:

Dmtdust wrote:

Well, the video doesn't load, and the web site is owned by Rupert Murdoch.  The usual, thanks.

Leave it to you to come up with a conspiracy theory...

Rupert hats me.  He said so through my door knob, and the neighbors cat said so as well.

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#6 2008-10-02 14:27:14

There should be a basic quiz before we hand anyone a ballot.

1.  Besides the person you were told to vote for, can you name anyone else running for president?  _________________ and ___________________

2.  What city are you in right now?__________________

3.  Is Osama Bin Laden, A) Running for president ___, B)  A black minister___, C)  One of the bad guys ___.

4.  If a candidate gets 60% of the vote, he/she A) wins ___, B) loses ___, C) who the fuck cares___.

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#7 2008-10-02 14:28:03

Are all those grinning black faces supposed to frighten us?  All adult Americans who are not felons have the right to vote in elections.  Are these scary dark people Americans or not?

And "uninformed"?  That sounds like elitist talk.  Who thinks there should be a current-events test for voters?  How would it be scored, and by whom?  And how do you think Sarah Palin would score on one?

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#8 2008-10-02 14:35:42

Dmtdust wrote:

AladdinSane wrote:

Dmtdust wrote:

Well, the video doesn't load, and the web site is owned by Rupert Murdoch.  The usual, thanks.

Leave it to you to come up with a conspiracy theory...

Rupert hates me.  He said so through my door knob, and the neighbors cat said so as well.

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#9 2008-10-02 14:49:34

George Orr wrote:

Are all those grinning black faces supposed to frighten us?  All adult Americans who are not felons have the right to vote in elections.  Are these scary dark people Americans or not?

And "uninformed"?  That sounds like elitist talk.  Who thinks there should be a current-events test for voters?  How would it be scored, and by whom?  And how do you think Sarah Palin would score on one?

Yes, everyone except felons have the right to vote, and it's so sad.  I believe we should have stayed with the property ownership requirement envisioned by the nation's founders.  So long as people can vote to take money they didn't earn and don't deserve from someone else, they're going to do it.  And so long as we have politicians spitting class hatred as the reason we should take that money, we are going to continue the slide into third world status.  People with money will take their investments, and the jobs they would otherwise create, somewhere else.

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#10 2008-10-02 14:51:46

Gee Willikers... Would we still have slaves as well Phwed?  You my dear are the true Paleo-Conservative, I hope you give up your gills one day, and walk on land.

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#11 2008-10-02 14:55:42

Dmtdust wrote:

Gee Willikers... Would we still have slaves as well Phwed?  You my dear are the true Paleo-Conservative, I hope you give up your gills one day, and walk on land.

Gee and I was just going to go with indebtentured servitude - Dusty goes right for the instituionalized slavery artery with nary a pause.

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#12 2008-10-02 14:57:34

Emmeran wrote:

Dmtdust wrote:

Gee Willikers... Would we still have slaves as well Phwed?  You my dear are the true Paleo-Conservative, I hope you give up your gills one day, and walk on land.

Gee and I was just going to go with indebtentured servitude - Dusty goes right for the instituionalized slavery artery with nary a pause.

Indentured/Slaves, what's not to like about Phwed's world view?

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#13 2008-10-02 15:11:16

I don't want to live in a society with slaves. But I could put an indentured servent to good use. Maybe 2 or 3 if I could get McCain's tax deduction increase for dependents to apply to them.

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#14 2008-10-02 15:26:50

phreddy wrote:

Yes, everyone except felons have the right to vote, and it's so sad.

Here in Alabama, some "minister" was trying to register felons last week until a court stopped it...

I believe that voting should be a right AND a privilege; I would like to see some sort of "test" applied to all citizens (and no, I'm not talking about the "How many bubbles are there in a bar of soap?" that was used to disenfranchise my parents' generation) and also banning convicted felons from voting (using the carrot and the stick).

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#15 2008-10-02 15:42:38

Nothing can be a right AND a privilege, the two are mutually exclusive.

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#16 2008-10-02 15:46:56

I think if someone has served their time, and have gainful employment... why shouldn't they be able to vote. 

Or should we just brand them on the forehead with an 'F'?

I mean, some people are not infallible like you Alladin.

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#17 2008-10-02 16:03:05

orangeplus wrote:

Nothing can be a right AND a privilege, the two are mutually exclusive.

Ding!

If anything, native-born Americans should possess a high school diploma or GED to vote.

Don't anyone throw shit at me for saying that -- it's just an idea.

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#18 2008-10-02 16:08:59

sofaking wrote:

If anything, native-born Americans should possess a high school diploma or GED to vote.

That actually doesn't sound too bad.

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#19 2008-10-02 16:09:24

heck being a felon or even admiitting to past felonies doesn't stop you from being elected president or senator then why should it stop anyone from voting for them?

When Nixon stumbled the halls glass in hand, yelling at the portrait of Abraham Lincoln or  when Joan threw Ted Kennedy's drunk philandering ass out of the house it didn't stop them from bellying up to the podium and voting on the people's business. Why should we be concerned about drunken homeless rodeos in front of polling places?

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#20 2008-10-02 16:21:29

George Orr wrote:

sofaking wrote:

If anything, native-born Americans should possess a high school diploma or GED to vote.

That actually doesn't sound too bad.

And it's nondiscriminatory. Every native-born American has the same chance to pass high-school government/civics classes and get their fucking diploma. If you want to get knocked-up or be a fucktard dropout, tough shit.

I heard a recent statistic that floored me. 50% of kids in big cities drop out.

That's baaaaad.

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#21 2008-10-02 16:30:24

sofaking wrote:

orangeplus wrote:

Nothing can be a right AND a privilege, the two are mutually exclusive.

Ding!

If anything, native-born Americans should possess a high school diploma or GED to vote.

Don't anyone throw shit at me for saying that -- it's just an idea.

Well that counts me out then. I dropped out of high school in the winter of my junior year.

I am no genius and was certainly not a go getter, but when I found out I could take a basic entrance test and sign up for classes in the state's college system, I just went down to the community college and never went back. I didn't even bother to clean out my locker.

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#22 2008-10-02 16:32:16

sofaking wrote:

George Orr wrote:

sofaking wrote:

If anything, native-born Americans should possess a high school diploma or GED to vote.

That actually doesn't sound too bad.

And it's nondiscriminatory. Every native-born American has the same chance to pass high-school government/civics classes and get their fucking diploma. If you want to get knocked-up or be a fucktard dropout, tough shit.

I heard a recent statistic that floored me. 50% of kids in big cities drop out.

That's baaaaad.

You make a case for disenfranchisement...

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#23 2008-10-02 16:37:35

Johnny_Rotten wrote:

sofaking wrote:

orangeplus wrote:

Nothing can be a right AND a privilege, the two are mutually exclusive.

Ding!

If anything, native-born Americans should possess a high school diploma or GED to vote.

Don't anyone throw shit at me for saying that -- it's just an idea.

Well that counts me out then. I dropped out of high school in the beginning of my juionor year.

I am no genius and was certainly not a go getter, but when I found out I could take a basic entrance test and sign up for classes in the state's college system, I just went down to the community college and never went back. I didn't even bother to clean out my locker.

S'okay Johnny. I'd still let you vote, because going straight into college would work too under my "plan".

If I let you vote, you're gonna vote for me, riiight?

Seriously, though, I'm just thinking of a good way to weed out the uninformed. It would never work in reality.

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#24 2008-10-02 16:42:21

Dmtdust wrote:

sofaking wrote:

George Orr wrote:

That actually doesn't sound too bad.

And it's nondiscriminatory. Every native-born American has the same chance to pass high-school government/civics classes and get their fucking diploma. If you want to get knocked-up or be a fucktard dropout, tough shit.

I heard a recent statistic that floored me. 50% of kids in big cities drop out.

That's baaaaad.

You make a case for disenfranchisement...

A good case? I don't like exclusion, but O+'s post with that hee-haw hillbilly woman scared the bejeezus out of me.

Ba-rock Hew-saaaaaaane Oh-bama.

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#25 2008-10-02 17:06:01

George Orr wrote:

And "uninformed"?  That sounds like elitist talk.  Who thinks there should be a current-events test for voters?  How would it be scored, and by whom?  And how do you think Sarah Palin would score on one?

I love you.

in a non-threatening way

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#26 2008-10-02 17:23:32

I believe the right to vote should be based on accounting principles.  Assets get to vote, liabilities don't. Every individual who contributes a net profit to the support of the government should have the right to vote, since they're the ones paying for it.

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#27 2008-10-02 17:36:18

Test answers sheets will contain 2 columns of opposite answers. You will be allowed a passing garde only if your responses fall within at least the 75 percentile for hegemony. No mixing of column A and column B allowed.

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#28 2008-10-02 17:38:36

Only veterans should vote, since veterans accept personal responsibility for the safety of the body politic, of which he is a member, defending it, if need be, with his life. The civilian does not.

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#29 2008-10-02 17:43:13

orangeplus wrote:

Only veterans should vote, since veterans accept personal responsibility for the safety of the body politic, of which he is a member, defending it, if need be, with his life. The civilian does not.

Now that is getteing back to the very basics of what the founding fathers of citizenship thought..

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#30 2008-10-02 17:44:56

orangeplus wrote:

Only veterans should vote, since veterans accept personal responsibility for the safety of the body politic, of which he is a member, defending it, if need be, with his life. The civilian does not.

I could go with that.  See, we don't disagree on every solution.

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#31 2008-10-02 17:49:30

opsec wrote:

I believe the right to vote should be based on accounting principles.  Assets get to vote, liabilities don't. Every individual who contributes a net profit to the support of the government should have the right to vote, since they're the ones paying for it.

Yes, but then the next question is should it be progressive? Where he who contributes more has greater weight to his vote. Because that is pretty much the defacto system we complain so much about now.

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#32 2008-10-02 17:50:34



you freakin weirdos. that's literally how fascism got started.

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#33 2008-10-02 17:58:59

orangeplus wrote:



you freakin weirdos. that's literally how fascism got started.

BWAHAHAHA

You should have waited a little longer for more of the sheeple to chime in.

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#34 2008-10-02 17:59:27

I thought that sentence sounded familiar, orange.  That is literally one of my favorite movies ever.  But I saw it more as an indictment of the old concept of meritocracy* (which is what we're really arguing about here), not fascism.

*I detest Heinlein.

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#35 2008-10-02 18:00:08

orangeplus wrote:



you freakin weirdos. that's literally how fascism got started.


ssssssshhhhh.  They are trying to make Lad and Phwed relaxxxxxx

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#36 2008-10-03 00:27:17

orangeplus wrote:

Only veterans should vote, since veterans accept personal responsibility for the safety of the body politic, of which he is a member, defending it, if need be, with his life. The civilian does not.

Whoa... don't we pay them for that?

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#37 2008-10-03 02:16:33

AladdinSane wrote:

phreddy wrote:

Yes, everyone except felons have the right to vote, and it's so sad.

Here in Alabama, some "minister" was trying to register felons last week until a court stopped it...

That's not what happened at all, and if you live in Alabama then you have no excuse for peddling that crap.  In Alabama it is legal to vote absentee from prison.  The minister had been delivering absentee ballots to prisoners, and the GOP stopped it claiming that it violated rules that say that state property can't be used to advance a candidate for election.  It's the same bullshit they used to stop voter registration drives at the VA.

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#38 2008-10-03 02:30:33

You just gotta love the guys who want to deny the vote to anyone who opposes them.

Good for you Lad, and Phwedd.  Your real true blue nutjobs, aren't ya?

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#39 2008-10-03 10:32:13

"Violence, the supreme authority from which all other authority is derived."

See "2nd Ammendment" vis "reasonable restrictions".

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#40 2008-10-03 14:38:33

orangeplus wrote:

Only veterans should vote, since veterans accept personal responsibility for the safety of the body politic, of which he is a member, defending it, if need be, with his life. The civilian does not.

I second.

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#41 2008-10-03 14:42:54

opsec wrote:

Whoa... don't we pay them for that?

You pay Blackwater better.

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#42 2008-10-04 11:41:03

orangeplus wrote:

Only veterans should vote, since veterans accept personal responsibility for the safety of the body politic, of which he is a member, defending it, if need be, with his life. The civilian does not.

This is SPARTAAAAAAAAAA!!

By the way, once a veteran is no longer able to defend the country, does he lose his vote?

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#43 2008-10-04 12:06:31

You may wish to read the entire thread there ah3.14159265

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#44 2008-10-04 12:10:57

orangeplus wrote:

You may wish to read the entire thread there ah3.14159265

Thorough reading cuts into my masturbation time.

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#45 2008-10-04 12:54:25

tojo2000 wrote:

AladdinSane wrote:

phreddy wrote:

Yes, everyone except felons have the right to vote, and it's so sad.

Here in Alabama, some "minister" was trying to register felons last week until a court stopped it...

That's not what happened at all, and if you live in Alabama then you have no excuse for peddling that crap.  In Alabama it is legal to vote absentee from prison.  The minister had been delivering absentee ballots to prisoners, and the GOP stopped it claiming that it violated rules that say that state property can't be used to advance a candidate for election.  It's the same bullshit they used to stop voter registration drives at the VA.

http://www.montgomeryadvertiser.com/app … /810040373

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#46 2008-10-04 19:35:38

AladdinSane wrote:

tojo2000 wrote:

AladdinSane wrote:


Here in Alabama, some "minister" was trying to register felons last week until a court stopped it...

That's not what happened at all, and if you live in Alabama then you have no excuse for peddling that crap.  In Alabama it is legal to vote absentee from prison.  The minister had been delivering absentee ballots to prisoners, and the GOP stopped it claiming that it violated rules that say that state property can't be used to advance a candidate for election.  It's the same bullshit they used to stop voter registration drives at the VA.

http://www.montgomeryadvertiser.com/app … /810040373

I hope this wasn't meant to be a rebuttal, because if so my opinion of you has lowered somewhat.

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#48 2008-10-05 13:38:16

That was a bit of brilliance....!

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