Zookeeper wrote:

Dmtdust wrote:

whosasailorthen wrote:

And that's what your buddies are saying, too. 

Rubens knew better.

http://art-quarter.com/beck/joe/pablo/1/2/renoir-58.jpg

She looks beautiful.  Nice smile and all.

How great do you think she looks standing up?

Just as great, Zoo.  And lots of fun.

George Orr wrote:

http://www.myconfinedspace.com/wp-conte … rp-dog.jpg

I love that picture!!  I had a Boston Terrier when I was in high school named Toby.....  I've never known any other creature to have so much personality....

whosasailorthen wrote:

OK, you guys that say you don't like fatties... tell me you wouldn't like to roll in the hay with this...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v296/ … french.jpg

Well, no, I wouldn't roll in the hay with her, but she's funny as hell. I would have dinner with her.

whosasailorthen wrote:

scarydog wrote:

Gudrun Himmler was a model German kid.....

And is still around...

http://www.corriere.it/Hermes%20Foto/06 … 40x180.jpg

Yeah, too bad she didn't get what Joseph Goebbels' children got.

Dmtdust wrote:

Baywolfe wrote:

whosasailorthen wrote:

And is still around...

http://www.corriere.it/Hermes%20Foto/06 … 40x180.jpg

Yeah, too bad she didn't get what Joseph Goebbels' children got.

There is something inherently nasty about anyone who'd wish that on anyones children, regardless of what the parents did.  You have some real issues that you need to look at.

Not as nasty as Nazi spawn.  And I think everybody here is probably fighting some personal demon(s).  I can live with mine.

If everyone followed your logic Bay, then sniping at kids for throwing rocks, or playing soccer becomes excusable if they are 'the enemy'.  This is of course part of the pattern that makes people reacting to such acts strap on tnt waist-coats, and think that getting on a bus of 'the enemy' and blowing yourself and those you have objectified into the next world acceptable.

Your version of personal demons I posit is what is driving a lot of people down the wrong path for all the wrong reasons.

Don't buy into the mind set, you do have a choice to work it differently, and to make a better world by not buying into that game.

Yer Pal,
Dusty

Dmtdust wrote:

Baywolfe wrote:

whosasailorthen wrote:

And is still around...

http://www.corriere.it/Hermes%20Foto/06 … 40x180.jpg

Yeah, too bad she didn't get what Joseph Goebbels' children got.

There is something inherently nasty about anyone who'd wish that on anyones children, regardless of what the parents did.  You have some real issues that you need to look at.

Gudrum seemed a little TOO oblivious or naive about Dachau; you have to wonder. On a related subject: There are a number of now-elderly children of Nazi butchers who were mere TODDLERS when all the WWII atrocities were going down and who did nothing wrong other than be born to heartless parents---yet those children of killers have had to live their whole lives stamped with the stigma of somehow being evil by (involuntary) association. Not excusing ANYTHING the Nazis themselves did,  I can't help but think what a horrible fate it would have been to come into the world as the offspring of a Hitler and be saddled with the collective hatred of the world not only for Nazi extremists but also for their hapless descendants. In a way, the innocent youngsters ended up being yet more victims of the Third Reich. Some of the offspring have spoken out against the tyranny of the Nazi movement and of their parents' involvement in that movement, showing contrition for crimes they (the children) themselves never committed---yet those descendants will still be socially damned simply for existing.

"After years of studying agriculture, Himmler...operated his own farm. He and his wife grew and sold produce, farm implements, and also raised chickens. In 1929, the Himmlers had a daughter Gudrun."

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Hold on now fellas, the way you're all talking you'd think the Nazis were BAD or something.  I don't know where you're getting this, but I think everyone needs to sit back and reexamine their assumptions.

Baywolfe wrote:

Dmtdust wrote:

Baywolfe wrote:

Yeah, too bad she didn't get what Joseph Goebbels' children got.

There is something inherently nasty about anyone who'd wish that on anyones children, regardless of what the parents did.  You have some real issues that you need to look at.

Not as nasty as Nazi spawn.  And I think everybody here is probably fighting some personal demon(s).  I can live with mine.

Most aren't fighting them.  This is a place of care and nurturing for personal demons.

scarydog wrote:

Dmtdust wrote:

Baywolfe wrote:

Yeah, too bad she didn't get what Joseph Goebbels' children got.

There is something inherently nasty about anyone who'd wish that on anyones children, regardless of what the parents did.  You have some real issues that you need to look at.

Gudrum seemed a little TOO oblivious or naive about Dachau; you have to wonder. On a related subject: There are a number of now-elderly children of Nazi butchers who were mere TODDLERS when all the WWII atrocities were going down and who did nothing wrong other than be born to heartless parents---yet those children of killers have had to live their whole lives stamped with the stigma of somehow being evil by (involuntary) association. Not excusing ANYTHING the Nazis themselves did,  I can't help but think what a horrible fate it would have been to come into the world as the offspring of a Hitler and be saddled with the collective hatred of the world not only for Nazi extremists but also for their hapless descendants. In a way, the innocent youngsters ended up being yet more victims of the Third Reich. Some of the offspring have spoken out against the tyranny of the Nazi movement and of their parents' involvement in that movement, showing contrition for crimes they (the children) themselves never committed---yet those descendants will still be socially damned simply for existing.

"After years of studying agriculture, Himmler...operated his own farm. He and his wife grew and sold produce, farm implements, and also raised chickens. In 1929, the Himmlers had a daughter Gudrun."

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3074/303 … 17b8_o.jpg

Umm.... I'm not entirely sure Godrun is entirely innocent....

Nazi sympathies

[Gudrun] married the journalist and author Wulf Dieter Burwitz, who like herself is active in Neo-Nazism. She has remained active in the Nazi community, and has since 1951 been a member of Stille Hilfe, an organisation providing support to arrested, condemned or fugitive former SS-members. In 1952 she helped to found Wiking-Jugend which was organized after the Hitler Youth model. She was a longtime friend of Florentine Rost van Tonningen (died in 2007), who was known in the Netherlands as "the black widow" and was active in Nazi circles after the war.

For decades Gudrun Burwitz has been a prominent symbol and idol in Stille Hilfe . At various meetings, for instance the annual Ulrichsberg gathering in Austria, she enjoys the status as both a star and an authority. Oliver Schröm, author of a book about Stille Hilfe, has described her as a "fickle Nazi princess" ("schillernde Nazi-Prinzessin").

Gudrun Burwitz has intensified the support for Nazi war criminals within the last years. This was particularly evident in the case of Anton Malloth, a supervisor of Theresienstadt, who was extradited to Germany in 1988 and after a prolonged public trial was sentenced in 2001 to life in prison. During 1988-2001 she arranged his stay at an expensive nursing home in Pullach at the southern outskirts of Munich. There was a public outcry when it was discovered that the premises had been the property of the prominent Nazi Rudolf Hess and that the stay was largely financed by public welfare funds.

Baywolfe wrote:

Dmtdust wrote:

If everyone followed your logic Bay, then sniping at kids for throwing rocks, or playing soccer becomes excusable if they are 'the enemy'.  This is of course part of the pattern that makes people reacting to such acts strap on tnt waist-coats, and think that getting on a bus of 'the enemy' and blowing yourself and those you have objectified into the next world acceptable.

Your version of personal demons I posit is what is driving a lot of people down the wrong path for all the wrong reasons.

Don't buy into the mind set, you do have a choice to work it differently, and to make a better world by not buying into that game.

Yer Pal,
Dusty

Look Dusty, you're welcome to your opinion, just as I am mine.  But this ridiculous, dime-store psychiatry that I "have some real issues that I need to look at" is completely out of line.  I refrain from personal attacks on people regardless of how reprehensible I find their comments.

Stick to supervising the space between your ears.

Fine, I'll happily drop it, I would appreciate less of the children are evil by association shit though.  It gets up my nose.

Dmtdust wrote:

Baywolfe wrote:

Dmtdust wrote:

If everyone followed your logic Bay, then sniping at kids for throwing rocks, or playing soccer becomes excusable if they are 'the enemy'.  This is of course part of the pattern that makes people reacting to such acts strap on tnt waist-coats, and think that getting on a bus of 'the enemy' and blowing yourself and those you have objectified into the next world acceptable.

Your version of personal demons I posit is what is driving a lot of people down the wrong path for all the wrong reasons.

Don't buy into the mind set, you do have a choice to work it differently, and to make a better world by not buying into that game.

Yer Pal,
Dusty

Look Dusty, you're welcome to your opinion, just as I am mine.  But this ridiculous, dime-store psychiatry that I "have some real issues that I need to look at" is completely out of line.  I refrain from personal attacks on people regardless of how reprehensible I find their comments.

Stick to supervising the space between your ears.

Fine, I'll happily drop it, I would appreciate less of the children are evil by association shit though.  It gets up my nose.

All children are pretty much evil, But its not normal to let crimes of the father/mother descend generations.  It remains very scary that histories worst figures have no further blood lines showing a history of such thinking occurring.  Here is a list you'll find no direct lineage too:

Julius Caeser
Alexander The Great
Vlad The Impaler
King Henry VIII
Queen Mary I
Adolf Hitler
Napoleon Bonaparte
Joseph Stalin
Mao Zedong's only living direct descendant is too old to reproduce
Pol Pot

Sadly enough a very famous warlord is one of the exceptions, Muhammad abn 'Abdullah's bloodline is very much alive and well and shockingly very efficiently destructive.

Dmtdust wrote:

You meant Muhammad Ibn 'Abdullah's bloodline ...  what is so destructive about the family line?

...wow.

Fortinbras was referring to the Prophet Mohammed (pbuh).

See what he did there?

Ah a not so nice picture, this is why this thread is good.

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Last edited by whosasailorthen (2013-11-30 00:19:21)